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[Labrev]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Freaking Liara has a better figure.

Duh-uh. Freaking Liara has the *best* figure.

I guess I agree with that.

Sex appeal, on the other hand...

[Sebby]

Kelly has the best sex appeal. TIM handpicked her for a reason. <3

[Kaiser Shepard]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Freaking Liara has a better figure.

Duh-uh. Freaking Liara has the *best* figure.

I guess I agree with that.

Sex appeal, on the other hand...

Well, she has the sex appeal of a pre-pubescent, although I guess some people are into that sort of thing.

[Sebby]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Freaking Liara has a better figure.

Duh-uh. Freaking Liara has the *best* figure.

I guess I agree with that.

Sex appeal, on the other hand...

Well, she has the sex appeal of a pre-pubescent, although I guess some people are into that sort of thing.

That's one of the reasons why I have difficulty with creating a character who romances her.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Freaking Liara has a better figure.

Duh-uh. Freaking Liara has the *best* figure.

I guess I agree with that.

Sex appeal, on the other hand...

Well, she has the sex appeal of a pre-pubescent, although I guess some people are into that sort of thing.

That's one of the reasons why I have difficulty with creating a character who romances her.

But if TIM handpicked her himself, then it shouldn't be a problem.

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

But if TIM handpicked her himself, then it shouldn't be a problem.

Fortunately TIM likes grown and mature women like that brunette from Retribution.

[DarkSeraphym]

From the demo, it would appear that Shepard may have been incorrect at the notion that Cerberus has been "indoctrinated". Apparently, they just do not want the Krogan getting their hands on that female who has apparently managed to resist the Genophage entirely. This pleases me as this seems to be something that The Illusive Man would do.

I do have to admit that I hope this is one of those missions that changes according to your previous playthroughs. I encouraged Mordin the whole time not to cure the Genophage and I have some concerns about just letting the krogan have this female back if she has the ability to resist it. Still though, it seems like they at least stayed true to the character of TIM for this one.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 05 novembre 2011 - 04:33 .

[Labrev]

^^^ Not sure. The post-mission report, presumably written by TIM, from Mordin's LM noted krogan as potentially useful shock-troopers in the Reaper war if you kept the genophage data.


My gut feeling is that TIM will launch some kind of plan to weaken alien populations to ensure human dominance in the galaxy, somewhere in the midst of the war. Vague idea in my head, but I'm thinking of something along those lines.

[DarkSeraphym]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

^^^ Not sure. The post-mission report, presumably written by TIM, from Mordin's LM noted krogan as potentially useful shock-troopers in the Reaper war if you kept the genophage data.


My gut feeling is that TIM will launch some kind of plan to weaken alien populations to ensure human dominance in the galaxy, somewhere in the midst of the war. Vague idea in my head, but I'm thinking of something along those lines.

Only way I could see The Illusive Man doing that is if he was certain that the Reapers could be defeated even with weaker aliens. As your post-mission report shows, ultimately TIM is concerned with the Reaper threat despite whatever consequences it might mean later on (no doubt that an unrestricted krogan birth rate in unison with Wreav is a terrible thing). Unless TIM already had some sort of ace up his sleeve to beat the Reapers, I really could not see him pursuing weaker aliens if humanity is already on the verge of annihilation.

Though, after I have thought about it, perhaps the post-mission report in tandem with what we know from the demo still makes sense. We ended up with much less time than we originally anticipated and as far as we can tell, no actual progress has been made on curing the Genophage up until Mass Effect 3 since the Krogan princess is their only hope of doing it. Perhaps my understanding of Krogan lore is incorrect, but it seems like that doesn't leave them much time to use her to create a strong Krogan army. If that is the case, perhaps The Illusive Man has decided that the consequences of curing the Genophage no longer are worth what we stand to gain against the Reapers since we have run out of time.

[Xilizhra]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Freaking Liara has a better figure.

Duh-uh. Freaking Liara has the *best* figure.

I guess I agree with that.

Sex appeal, on the other hand...

Well, she has the sex appeal of a pre-pubescent, although I guess some people are into that sort of thing.

How many prepubescents do you know who have doctorates?

[BlueMagitek]

What does a doctorate have to do with sex appeal?

I'm not saying that I agree, but the two really don't correlate with each other.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

My gut feeling is that TIM will launch some kind of plan to weaken alien populations to ensure human dominance in the galaxy, somewhere in the midst of the war.

So then why can't I help him?

When playing ME2 as a renegade I felt that the whole "pro-human" part of it was removed. So I guess that is why you have to fight against Cerberus. Because no matter what, Shepard is designed to be pro-galaxy or whatever.

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

What does a doctorate have to do with sex appeal?

I'm not saying that I agree, but the two really don't correlate with each other.

My point was that equating her with a prepubescent in any way is moronic. She's clearly extremely smart and obviously sexually mature.

[BlueMagitek]

Not in ME 1 she isn't. She's understandably crazy when you meet her and then she has a breakdown on the Normandy.

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Not in ME 1 she isn't. She's understandably crazy when you meet her and then she has a breakdown on the Normandy.

Say what? Yes, she was sort of physically and mentally weak after having not eaten/drank/slept for an indeterminate period of time. What a sign of inferiority.

[BlueMagitek]

Hey, you're the one calling her mature. Given her actions, I really can't call her that.

A mature person doesn't hand them over to an organization they hate because they think they could do something that has never occurred without divine intervention before. >_>

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hey, you're the one calling her mature. Given her actions, I really can't call her that.

A mature person doesn't hand them over to an organization they hate because they think they could do something that has never occurred without divine intervention before. >_>

Actually, I meant physically mature. But given that Shepard is physically an ordinary corpse, there's not much Cerberus could do with her that would be damaging, if not bring her back to life.

[BlueMagitek]

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually, I meant physically mature. But given that Shepard is physically an ordinary corpse, there's not much Cerberus could do with her that would be damaging, if not bring her back to life.

Liara was certainly in her maiden stage when you found her, I wasn't disputing that.

She got over her mother pretty quickly, who she had to have known for far longer than Shepard.  That she wanted Shepard brought back to life and not her mother is... questionable.  And now she's in debt to Cerberus, which isn't the best position to be in.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

What does a doctorate have to do with sex appeal?

I'm not saying that I agree, but the two really don't correlate with each other.

My point was that equating her with a prepubescent in any way is moronic. She's clearly extremely smart and obviously sexually mature.

Sure, she's fairly smart, and while she's probably technically able to reproduce already, so are most human females from age 12 and up.

[General User]

I was under the impression that Liara and her mother had been gradually growing apart for some time prior to Liara meeting Shepard.

[Ravensword]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I was more reminded of a teenager when it concerned Liara, at times, than I was an actual child. I didn't think of her as a child at all. She only came across as being very inexperienced when it came to dealing with people, but she was still mature about it.

Lizardviking wrote...


When playing ME2 as a renegade I
felt that the whole "pro-human" part of it was removed. So I guess that
is why you have to fight against Cerberus. Because no matter what,
Shepard is designed to be pro-galaxy or whatever.

Yeah. Hurray for railroading.

Oh, I think BW intended for Cerberus to be the antagonists all along. TIM isn't your typical Bond villain and is actually relatable on a certain level, so I can see why people would actually like him. You're probably looking for something, like New Vegas, where you can actually side w/ the faction that is considered evil, Caesar's Legion.

[Labrev]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

My gut feeling is that TIM will launch some kind of plan to weaken alien populations to ensure human dominance in the galaxy, somewhere in the midst of the war.

So then why can't I help him?

I dunno. I'd give you the option to, it's not up to me though.