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[Ravensword]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hardly surprising. The choice at the end of ME2 in the dev-tools referred to Cerberus as Nazi scientists.

I had hoped in the past that Bioware had a more balanced dev team.

Their science division is would've made the **** regime green w/ envy.

[DarkSeraphym]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I can confirm this.

Truth be told, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. For once I am actually speechless .

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hardly surprising. The choice at the end of ME2 in the dev-tools referred to Cerberus as Nazi scientists.

I had hoped in the past that Bioware had a more balanced dev team.

Their science division is would've made the **** regime green w/ envy.

You know there's some fun to be had with this, I'm very tempted to leap out of my chair, raise my right hand and yell "Sieg Heil!!" at the top of my lungs when TIM first shows up in ME3.

[Sebby]

HiroVoid wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Also not impressed how the Renegade playthrough is called "Failure" in the devtools.

Hardly surprising. The choice at the end of ME2 in the dev-tools referred to Cerberus as Nazi scientists.

I had hoped in the past that Bioware had a more balanced dev team.

Again .  Talk about having no respect for a path you put in your own game.
Though I suppose I shouldn't be so harsh since this is still obviously something they didn't intend to get out.

This all sounds like a parody of what Renegades have been b!tching about for months.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hardly surprising. The choice at the end of ME2 in the dev-tools referred to Cerberus as Nazi scientists.

I had hoped in the past that Bioware had a more balanced dev team.

Their science division is would've made the **** regime green w/ envy.

You know there's some fun to be had with this, I'm very tempted to leap out of my chair, raise my right hand and yell "Sieg Heil!!" at the top of my lungs when TIM first shows up in ME3.

TIM wwill be proud.

I didn't know that it automatically censors the short form of National Socialism. Does it filter out profanity as well?

[GodWood]

Dave of Canada wrote...
Also not impressed how the Renegade playthrough is called "Failure" in the devtools.

I confess this made me laugh out loud.

[Sebby]

Here's the details of "success" and "failure" (Thanks Kaiser!)

"Detected Non-Legal Playthrough: Please select the state information for Debug Purposes.



ME2Success: sets plot state to mimic a full win in ME1 and ME2. All

characters are alive if possible. The opposite sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan. Plots will tend to be resolved more paragon

than renegade, such as Rachni are alive.



ME2Failure: sets plot state to mimic a disaster play-through. All

henchmen are dead except for Kasumi and Morinth. Plots will tend to be

resolved more renegade than paragon. The same sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan.
"

[HiroVoid]

Huh. Is that what you mean by the renegade path being described as the failure? That seems more like what you would choose to start the game with when selecting a pre-determined path since saving the same sex henchman's apparently under failure as well.

[DarkSeraphym]

Seboist wrote...

Here's the details of "success" and "failure" (Thanks Kaiser!)

"Detected Non-Legal Playthrough: Please select the state information for Debug Purposes.



ME2Success: sets plot state to mimic a full win in ME1 and ME2. All

characters are alive if possible. The opposite sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan. Plots will tend to be resolved more paragon

than renegade, such as Rachni are alive.



ME2Failure: sets plot state to mimic a disaster play-through. All

henchmen are dead except for Kasumi and Morinth. Plots will tend to be

resolved more renegade than paragon. The same sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan.
"

I don't know why, but I find it really humorous that ME2Success has an opposite sex VS and ME2Failure has a same-sex VS. Obviously MaleShep should have been tantalized by Ashley's breasts if he wanted to beat the Reapers.

[Sebby]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Here's the details of "success" and "failure" (Thanks Kaiser!)

"Detected Non-Legal Playthrough: Please select the state information for Debug Purposes.



ME2Success: sets plot state to mimic a full win in ME1 and ME2. All

characters are alive if possible. The opposite sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan. Plots will tend to be resolved more paragon

than renegade, such as Rachni are alive.



ME2Failure: sets plot state to mimic a disaster play-through. All

henchmen are dead except for Kasumi and Morinth. Plots will tend to be

resolved more renegade than paragon. The same sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan.
"

I don't know why, but I find it really humorous that ME2Success has an opposite sex VS and ME2Failure has a same-sex VS. Obviously MaleShep should have been tantalized by Ashley's breasts if he wanted to beat the Reapers.

Or in femshep's case she was motivated by Kaidan being hung like a horse.

[DarkSeraphym]

Seboist wrote...

Or in femshep's case she was motivated by Kaidan being hung like a horse.

In that case, maybe she hopes that the secret weapon for beating the Repaers is Kaidan must fight the Reapers with his nudity.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

DarkSeraphym wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Here's the details of "success" and "failure" (Thanks Kaiser!)

"Detected Non-Legal Playthrough: Please select the state information for Debug Purposes.



ME2Success: sets plot state to mimic a full win in ME1 and ME2. All

characters are alive if possible. The opposite sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan. Plots will tend to be resolved more paragon

than renegade, such as Rachni are alive.



ME2Failure: sets plot state to mimic a disaster play-through. All

henchmen are dead except for Kasumi and Morinth. Plots will tend to be

resolved more renegade than paragon. The same sex henchmen is alive

regarding Ashley/Kaidan.
"

I don't know why, but I find it really humorous that ME2Success has an opposite sex VS and ME2Failure has a same-sex VS. Obviously MaleShep should have been tantalized by Ashley's breasts if he wanted to beat the Reapers.

Or in femshep's case she was motivated by Kaidan being hung like a horse.

What about TIM? How does he feel about that? Is his illusive heart broken?

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

What about TIM? How does he feel about that? Is his illusive heart broken?

I imagine so, he was rejected in favor of a submissive beta male. That must BURN.

[Kaiser Shepard]

 You're scaring me, Lae. 

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

What about TIM? How does he feel about that? Is his illusive heart broken?

I imagine so, he was rejected in favor of a submissive beta male. That must BURN.

Damn, I feel bad for TIM. He must do something to win back your femShep's love. It seems that bringing her back to life and giving her a ship wasn't enough.

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

What about TIM? How does he feel about that? Is his illusive heart broken?

I imagine so, he was rejected in favor of a submissive beta male. That must BURN.

Damn, I feel bad for TIM. He must do something to win back your femShep's love. It seems that bringing her back to life and giving her a ship wasn't enough.

I don't know what's gotten into her. She's supposed be a ruthless renegade b!tch, why is she not attracted to a rich and powerful alpha male like TIM who wants to fulfill her every desire (political and otherwise)?

I just don't understand women.

[Ravensword]

laecraft wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

 You're scaring me, Lae. 

Don't worry, it's a virtual battle axe. To show that I'm not going to cut the writers any slack. And that I'm going to be brief in expressing my opinion of the game.

It's for their own good. Otherwise, the writers are going to think that they can make us fight the evil Cerberus and get away with not offering any believable explanations for Cerberus' behavior. The majority of the fandom are not going to question them. They'll be too busy happily shooting Cerberus away.

Someone has to stay on guard between the grace of creation, where the character acts according to his goals and motives, and the darkness beyond, where the character is forced into fitting the plot.

But that's subujective. Not everyone's canon Shepard is a pro-Cerberus character. I understand why you're upset b/c BW is making all you pr-Cerberus people fight against Cerberus for what might be a poor reason to you. I'd like to think that BW writers might try to make TIM out to be someone who's goals have changed, such that the survival of humanity is no longer his concern.

BW probably meant for Cerberus to be the ME3 bogemen, I think. Given their brutality  and thirst for power, most people would feel uncomfortable about Cerberus, especially the experiments that they perform , which would make any National Socialist scientist completely envious w/ the kind of experiments that they perform in being able to physically improve a human being. Rather they were doing it via genocide and eugenics. That's one thing that makes Cerberus less evil than the National Socialists.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

What about TIM? How does he feel about that? Is his illusive heart broken?

I imagine so, he was rejected in favor of a submissive beta male. That must BURN.

Damn, I feel bad for TIM. He must do something to win back your femShep's love. It seems that bringing her back to life and giving her a ship wasn't enough.

I don't know what's gotten into her. She's supposed be a ruthless renegade b!tch, why is she not attracted to a rich and powerful alpha male like TIM who wants to fulfill her every desire (political and otherwise)?

I just don't understand women.

Maybe it'll all work out well in ME3, unless your FemShep decides to kill TIM.

[Sebby]

Ravensword wrote...

Maybe it'll all work out well in ME3, unless your FemShep decides to kill TIM.

If she kills TIM then I'll kill her.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Maybe it'll all work out well in ME3, unless your FemShep decides to kill TIM.

If she kills TIM then I'll kill her.

And then you become the new Illusive Man.

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[Dean_the_Young]

Man, just read through stuff. I hope they really polish the Cerberus angle a bit. And by a bit, I mean a lot.

'Cerberus is committing atrocity XYZ' is a justification for Shepard having a mission to stop them, but it really doesn't give a reason (besides 'EVIL!') for Cerberus to be doing it in the first place. Some of it works in the context of 'TIM's plan for the Reapers', but a lot of it?


And, hell, where are the Batarians? And we still don't know how/where TIM is getting Cerberus commandos and gear out the wazoo.