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[Xilizhra]

ME3 is every bad fan ****** and troll that has come up on BSN rolled into one. Bioware is beyond the shadow of a doubt incompetent gutless hacks who compromise the integrity to fan pander.

Beyond the shadow of your doubt, mayhaps.

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Every Paragon choice can be seen as pragmatic.

No, it can't. Some of them can, sure, but not most of them.

I can think of reasons for them all.

[Sebby]

The game's story becomes more laughably bad the more I read it. Halo fans looks like you're getting your Cortana....

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I can think of reasons for them all.

Oh I'm sure you can, but I bet I could easily debunk most of them too.

From your perspective. Given that they work, Shepard is clearly doing something right.

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

From your perspective. Given that they work, Shepard is clearly doing something right.

No, Paragon Shepard is lucky. He takes huge risks and thankfully the dice always wind up rolling in his favor. That's not skill or wisdom or sound reasoning or any other virtue. Just luck.

If it's solely luck and yet Shepard can keep making luck work for her, it would seem to speak of her as being an outright reality warper. And it would be foolish not to use that power.

[General User]

Shepard as Muad'dib?

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If it's solely luck and yet Shepard can keep making luck work for her,

No, Xilizhra, that is not how luck works. You can't make luck do anything, it just happens or it doesn't. That's the entire point: you aren't actually making any rational decisions. Instead you're just leaving it all up to fate. That's poor decision making.

The odds of this being solely luck without any other factors, given how consistently it works, seem incredibly low.

[Dave of Canada]

It consistently works because of author pandering, remove metagame from the picture and it's just luck.

[Xilizhra]

laecraft wrote...

BW makes universe bend to Paragons. And we do have a choice: to be Paragons or to be "failure."

You can still save the galaxy.

[Dave of Canada]

But not much more.

[General User]

I think it was Tom Clancy who once said: "The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense."

So the real problem I have with all the Paragon choices working out positively, despite how foolish they may or may not be, while all the Renegade choices work out negatively, despite how sensible they may or may not be, is not that such things ARE NOT reflective of reality, but rather that such things ARE reflective of bad fiction.

I had hopes (foolish though they may be) that Mass Effect would be better than that.  Getting one's hopes dashed is never fun.

Modifié par General User, 11 novembre 2011 - 03:53 .

[Xilizhra]

Dave of Canada wrote...

But not much more.

If you care about nothing but the mission, you'll get nothing but the mission.

[Xilizhra]

General User wrote...

I think it was Tom Clancy who once said: "The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense."

So the real problem I have with all the Paragon choices working out positively, despite how foolish they may or may not be, while all the Renegade choices work out negatively, despite how sensible they may or may not be, is not that such things ARE NOT reflective of reality, but rather that such things ARE reflective of bad fiction.

I had hopes (foolish though they may be) that Mass Effect would be better than that.

PM me your worries about specific decisions, then, if you like. I'll explain them as best I can.

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

But not much more.

If you care about nothing but the mission, you'll get nothing but the mission.

If all he cared about was the mission then he wouldn't be so unhappy with the revelations about ME3. Don't be a ****.

If Renegades are so smart, they wouldn't have pinned their hopes on a deceitful terrorist leader.

[Dave of Canada]

Xilizhra wrote...

If Renegades are so smart, they wouldn't have pinned their hopes on a deceitful terrorist leader.

You're not even trying anymore but... Considering most of the Renegade decisions aren't even related to Cerberus or TIM, what's your logic on them backfiring?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 11 novembre 2011 - 03:58 .

[Xilizhra]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If Renegades are so smart, they wouldn't have pinned their hopes on a deceitful terrorist leader.

You're not even trying anymore but... Considering most of the Renegade decisions aren't even related to Cerberus or TIM, what's your logic on them backfiring?

I was only talking about TIM there. So far as I can tell, most Renegade decisions are... sufficient. I don't think that many actively hurt you.