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I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.

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I've read it and it doesn't give him his due at all.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

I've read it and it doesn't give him his due at all.


Yeah, him being turned into an assclown cartoon villain and a rehashing of a former antagonist of a previous game isn't what i'd call giving him his due.

RIP ME2/Retribution TIM.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.

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What I read of Cerberus in ME3 really makes the bad guys from Avatar look subtle.

Kai Leng is the only thing I am really looking foward to in terms of Cerberus.

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ME3 Cerberus is more cartoonish than the literal space nazis from the Killzone series. The "renegade" characters in general that BW's precious fanbase of emotionally fragile Paragon blowhards hate such as TIM, Udina,Zaeed,etc are more ridiculous and harder to take seriously than the villains from Ninja Gaiden or Street Fighter.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it in detail, including the final confrontation, in the dwindling hope to find something of the former TIM in the leaked files, and there is nothing of him left. The writers once again failed to provide the antagonist with his own solid motivation and resorted to their trusted magical antagonist-making device which they already reused ad infinitum.

The devs are trying their hardest to make sure the players would see Cerberus as the enemy, multiplying the pointless and unnecessary atrocities, and the thought-out motivations have long since gone out of the window. It's just the villain mode now.

I don't even understand why they needed the character of TIM for that role.

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Seboist wrote...

ME3 Cerberus is more cartoonish than the literal space nazis from the Killzone series. The "renegade" characters in general that BW's precious fanbase of emotionally fragile Paragon blowhards hate such as TIM, Udina,Zaeed,etc are more ridiculous and harder to take seriously than the villains from Ninja Gaiden or Street Fighter.

Speaking of Cerberus, Steet Fighter villains and things being "harder", I figure this is as good a time as any to post a pic of Juri in her unofficial Cerberus outfit:

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Cerberus Juri. <3

I knew I mained her for a reason....

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.

Now plz tell me your joking because i didnt read it.

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Seboist wrote...

Cerberus Juri. <3

I knew I mained her for a reason....

Glad to see I'm not the only one here that did so. ^_^

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Rizia vas Kasai wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.

Now plz tell me your joking because i didnt read it.


I'm sorry to say that he isn't and he's only scratching the surface of it all.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Juri in her unofficial Cerberus outfit:

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DEM ABS

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Why can't femshep have abs or any kind of muscle mass? <3 :(

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Muscle size doesn't always correspond to strength, and most of her musculature is now made up of more efficient, and presumably smaller, materials.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Muscle size doesn't always correspond to strength, and most of her musculature is now made up of more efficient, and presumably smaller, materials.

Mmm, I love it when you talk dirty.

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A Geth arm (ala Saren) would be cool too. It will allow FemShep to suplex a Yagh with one arm. Like this:

http://www.youtube.c...vXPhDFTJXE#t=16

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Seboist wrote...

Rizia vas Kasai wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.

Now plz tell me your joking because i didnt read it.


I'm sorry to say that he isn't and he's only scratching the surface of it all.

Man thats disappointing...

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A Geth arm (ala Saren) would be cool too.

I didn't ask for... wait, I did ask for that. But we'd never get something like that, as the already not-so-subtle implications of it would still go straight over the current fanbase's head.


Rizia vas Kasai wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Rizia vas Kasai wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.

Now plz tell me your joking because i didnt read it.


I'm sorry to say that he isn't and he's only scratching the surface of it all.

Man thats disappointing...

That's an understatement. You'd think they'd show more love for the rare magnificent bastard they created, but alas...

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 30 novembre 2011 - 11:51 .


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That's an understatement. You'd think they'd show more love for the rare magnificent bastard they created, but alas...


And for Mac Walters' supposed favorite character.

Modifié par Seboist, 01 décembre 2011 - 12:17 .


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Well with a EA breathing down their necks with there 2 year release date **** it is understandable some of the stuff isnt dont to their best abilities but it is sad that TIM is not being used right. Hopefully they change that.

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Rizia vas Kasai wrote...

Well with a EA breathing down their necks with there 2 year release date **** it is understandable some of the stuff isnt dont to their best abilities but it is sad that TIM is not being used right. Hopefully they change that.


Unfortunately the most we could hope for at this point is for a slightly less clownish execution of the TIM and Cerberus plot.

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Speaking of Cerberus, Steet Fighter villains and things being "harder", I figure this is as good a time as any to post a pic of Juri in her unofficial Cerberus outfit:

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Cerberus colors. :D Very nice. Operatives like that can sway the people to our cause faster and surer than indoctrination.

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She can be the female Kai Leng. <3

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder if none of you disappointed TIM supporters has read the leaked script in detail. If I'm correct in my interpretation, the story will give TIM his due, even if you can't side with him. And there's the ultimate irony that....hmm...that would be an epic spoiler. I'll put it in invisible text if you want it.


I've read it completely, there's some redeeming factors (such as Kelly's story) here or there but they've gone far too much into establishing him and Cerberus as a whole into this cartoon villain. The whole established goal they've created for him is certainly great, it's just... really poorly handled. Everything from kicking puppies to the villain speech to the protagonist while he/she is vulnerable just leaves my face imprinted with my palm.


It really makes one wonder why they didn't try to do something similar between him and femshep....