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[Xilizhra]

Oh, and for Seboist's Shepard and TIM, I give you Garbage - The World Is Not Enough.

[Seboist]

Xilizhra wrote...

Oh, and for Seboist's Shepard and TIM, I give you Garbage - The World Is Not Enough.

The Galaxy isn't enough either.

[Ieldra]

Xilizhra wrote...

Wanting to kill all those brave human patriots make you a bad person mister.

Patriotism is no indicator of morality.

And morality is not the final arbiter of an action. That's why organizations like Cerberus exist in the first place, and that's why TIM is an interesting character.

[Dave of Canada]

Using meta knowledge, I've been trying to establish the strongest human galaxy using what knowledge we've been presented so far. The Illusive Man surrounds this entire chain of events, so it's all hypothetical and relies on him not being indoctrinated or not being herpaderp evil.

Assuming he survives post-Reaper war and returns to his standard style of operations... do you think he'd establish connections with Councilor / Ambassador Udina? Udina has shown himself a devout follower of pragmatism and extremely pro-humanity, eliminating competition and making sure C-Sec is run by humans.

Council-funded (obviously hidden by the other (ex-)Council races) Cerberus who'll be provided a constant stream of recruits, test subjects and political pull could be an extremely powerful asset.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 septembre 2011 - 08:21 .

[Seboist]

Establishing connection with Udina sounds possible, he never express any dislike of Cerberus.

Speaking of meta knowledge, here's what my Cerberus loyalist/human dominance wanting pseudo-canon Shepard has done.

ME1

Killed Rachni Queen
Killed Wrex
Saved Feros colony but killed Shiala
Killed all Batarians in BDTS
Killed Council
Killed both Dr. Wayne and Cpl. Toombs
Killed Rana
Didn't send Cerberus data to Shadow Broker
Used magic vagina to Renegade Kaidan
Recommended Udina for Councilor

ME2

Destroyed Heretics
Kept David in Overlord
Sent Rawlings Data to Cerberus Command
Kept Collector Base
Destroyed Genophage Data
Sent Veetor to Cerberus
Killed Aresh
Romanced Jacob (He's a Cerberus operative and it helps to spite Kaidan )
Saved colony infrastructure at the cost of colonist lives on Watson
Killed Joram Talid
Destroyed Graybox

And god willing....

ME3

Romanced TIM to the sound of W.A.S.P's "Animal (F*ck like a beast)" playing on the sound system in captain's quarters.

[Dave of Canada]

I'd probably keep the Cerberus data rather than send it back, you'd be capable of giving it back to them or use it for leverage. Or both.

[Seboist]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd probably keep the Cerberus data rather than send it back, you'd be capable of giving it back to them or use it for leverage. Or both.

That's what my canon ambivalent to Cerberus Shepard did but my pseudo-canon one wouldn't dare scheme against her (illusive) man like that.

[Dave of Canada]

Seboist wrote...

That's what my canon ambivalent to Cerberus Shepard did but my pseudo-canon one wouldn't dare scheme against her (illusive) man like that.

"You want that information? You're going to need to find it!" *takes off clothes*

[Seboist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

"Goldeneye" would better suit Seboist and his TIM fascination.

That's a good one.

Speaking of which, young Jack Harper would make for a great looking Bond. :happy:

Edit: Just bought Goldeneye off of Itunes, thanks for reminding me what a great song that is Saph!

Modifié par Seboist, 13 septembre 2011 - 08:56 .

[Seboist]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Seboist wrote...

That's what my canon ambivalent to Cerberus Shepard did but my pseudo-canon one wouldn't dare scheme against her (illusive) man like that.

"You want that information? You're going to need to find it!" *takes off clothes*

That's a creative extortion attempt for sure.

[Valdrane78]

I am just waiting for my face time with TIM in ME3, when I can give him my 2 cents.....at muzzle velocity.
TIM is not evil per sey, however he does live in a morally grey area. All the atrocities he has perpetuated in the persuit of human dominance out weighs any good he may have done. The means does not justify the end. And as for those of you that want to romance him, I just have to wonder how mentaly stable you are. How many times has he set you or your crew/ former crew up? If you are a sole survivor he is responsible for that as well. To TIM, you are nothing but another tool to reach his ultimate goal.

[Xilizhra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Wanting to kill all those brave human patriots make you a bad person mister.

Patriotism is no indicator of morality.

And morality is not the final arbiter of an action. That's why organizations like Cerberus exist in the first place, and that's why TIM is an interesting character.

Well, on the one hand, I do believe that anything and everything that brings about the greatest possible good is justified. The issue I take with TIM is that I don't believe he does that, except when pointing Shepard at the Reapers.

[Dave of Canada]

 From this thread:


Can't say I'm too happy about the standard villain pose.

Edit: Destroying Omega is pretty bad too.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 septembre 2011 - 04:05 .

[Xilizhra]

Can't say I'm too happy about the standard villain pose.

Well, he is kind of a villain...

[Tamahome560]

[Labrev]

Dave of Canada wrote...

The same occurs in real life with organizations which don't announce their advances or progress in public, one doesn't have to look far to notice people insulting organizations. I've seen a lot of flak from the people toward the F.B.I, does that mean all the F.B.I does is screw up?

We happen to know more about Cerberus than the general galactic public, which has a bad opinion on them. And, from seeing it on the inside, they aren't much better than what people say. They may have a couple successes here and there but those are few and far between, some even a fluke (like the Suicide Mission itself, if you think about it).

Modifié par Hah Yes Reapers, 13 septembre 2011 - 06:32 .

[CoronadoRose]

Valdrane78 wrote...

I am just waiting for my face time with TIM in ME3, when I can give him my 2 cents.....at muzzle velocity.
TIM is not evil per sey, however he does live in a morally grey area. All the atrocities he has perpetuated in the persuit of human dominance out weighs any good he may have done. The means does not justify the end. And as for those of you that want to romance him, I just have to wonder how mentaly stable you are. How many times has he set you or your crew/ former crew up? If you are a sole survivor he is responsible for that as well. To TIM, you are nothing but another tool to reach his ultimate goal.

I'm perfectly stable mentally, thanks.

Would I be attracted to a guy like him IRL? Yes, I think a lot of women would be. He's rich, charismatic, powerful, handsome etc. However, would I actually want to start something with a guy like him IRL? No, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with someone like him. But, we aren't talking about RL, we're talking about a game. It isn't real. We aren't even roleplaying ourselves in ME, we're roleplaying Shepard: a kickass, powerful man/women who can handle anything you throw at him/her. In my opinion, they would make an awesome couple. You obviously don't have to agree, but don't question my mental health over what I'd like to see in a video game.

Modifié par CoronadoRose, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:25 .

[Xilizhra]

Perhaps Valdrane wondered as to the mental stability of your Shepards.

[CoronadoRose]

Xilizhra wrote...

Perhaps Valdrane wondered as to the mental stability of your Shepards.

That isn't what they said. "I have to wonder how mentally stable you are.", does not mean Shepard. "You" means the player.

Modifié par CoronadoRose, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:34 .

[Ashwraith]

Dave of Canada wrote...

 From this thread:

...TIM is Card Crusher?
It all makes sense now.

[Seboist]

CoronadoRose wrote...

Valdrane78 wrote...

I am just waiting for my face time with TIM in ME3, when I can give him my 2 cents.....at muzzle velocity.
TIM is not evil per sey, however he does live in a morally grey area. All the atrocities he has perpetuated in the persuit of human dominance out weighs any good he may have done. The means does not justify the end. And as for those of you that want to romance him, I just have to wonder how mentaly stable you are. How many times has he set you or your crew/ former crew up? If you are a sole survivor he is responsible for that as well. To TIM, you are nothing but another tool to reach his ultimate goal.

I'm perfectly stable mentally, thanks.

Would I be attracted to a guy like him IRL? Yes, I think a lot of women would be. He's rich, charismatic, powerful, handsome etc. However, would I actually want to start something with a guy like him IRL? No, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with someone like him. But, we aren't talking about RL, we're talking about a game. It isn't real. We aren't even roleplaying ourselves in ME, we're roleplaying Shepard: a kickass, powerful man/women who can handle anything you throw at him/her. In my opinion, they would make an awesome couple. You obviously don't have to agree, but don't question my mental health over what I'd like to see in a video game.

True, TIM would provide a far better relationship than what any of the chump underlings she currently has as LI could.