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[Sebby]

wiggles89 wrote...

That pic might replace my TIM wallpaper.

Nothing could replace a TIM wallpaper for me..... well, besides another TIM wallpaper.

Modifié par Seboist, 06 décembre 2011 - 07:41 .

[XzorshTheConqueror]

laecraft wrote...

"Humanity first" is a great motto. Not to mention that it gives Shepard some focus and motivation, instead of just going with the flow, doing what he's told to, fighting back those who attack him, and never questioning the antagonist's motivations. Shepard needs to be more proactive than reactive. Or he needs to be able to roleplay as such. Having a clear motivation helps.

"The Earth" is a very tangible concept, and that's what we're fighting for at the end. Even though, here too, the hero is merely reacting to the antagonist's actions, instead of having an ambition on his own. Unfortunately the devs neglected building Shepard's connection to humanity and the Earth. The emotional engagement of the story and the stakes are going to suffer because of it.

Agreed, my Shepard comes across in-game as such as xenophile that I can't help but wonder if the crisis affecting the other species matter more to him than the peril facing his own planet and species.

[Sebby]

"The Illusive Father"



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[Xilizhra]

laecraft wrote...

"Humanity first" is a great motto. Not to mention that it gives Shepard some focus and motivation, instead of just going with the flow, doing what he's told to, fighting back those who attack him, and never questioning the antagonist's motivations. Shepard needs to be more proactive than reactive. Or he needs to be able to roleplay as such. Having a clear motivation helps.

"The Earth" is a very tangible concept, and that's what we're fighting for at the end. Even though, here too, the hero is merely reacting to the antagonist's actions, instead of having an ambition on his own. Unfortunately the devs neglected building Shepard's connection to humanity and the Earth. The emotional engagement of the story and the stakes are going to suffer because of it.

My Shepard doesn't have a particular connection to Earth any more than I do to Africa for being the continent that humans evolved on. It's something to be acknowledged, but it's not personal. She has plenty of more personal motivation from other corners in any case.

[BlueMagitek]

I'm taking that your Colonist is not an Earthborn, then?

[HiroVoid]

Does the colonist spend any time on Earth before going to Mindoir?

[BlueMagitek]

I don't think that's ever mention. That being said, I'd prefer if Colonist Shepard was Mindoir born. It seems to make it more personal to me.

[Xilizhra]

BlueMagitek wrote...

I'm taking that your Colonist is not an Earthborn, then?

Indeed. It may matter more for Earthborn Shepards (though their lives sucked, so it may not).

[BlueMagitek]

...did I write Colonist? I meant to say Shepard, that was my bad, sorry guys. "

Earthborn Shepard is one of the more interesting back stories; it's a nobody to an "untouchable" special agent. And sure, the slums of Earth sucked, but it's their home.

[feliciano2040]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Earth is very unique. Humans could not possibly have evolved on Mars or Venus.

I don't think anything could've evolved in those two 

But it certainly says something about Earth as a planet.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Seboist wrote...

"The Illusive Father"



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Now those are the eyes I've been waiting to see.

[Sebby]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Now those are the eyes I've been waiting to see.

My femshep wants to see them up close. <3

[Xilizhra]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

My Shepard doesn't have a particular connection to Earth any more than I do to Africa for being the continent that humans evolved on. It's something to be acknowledged, but it's not personal. She has plenty of more personal motivation from other corners in any case.

There is a subtle difference there. Africa was chosen by accident. Humanity could have evolved in India or in South America. The environments are not that different.

Earth is very unique. Humans could not possibly have evolved on Mars or Venus. It was not until quite recently did scientists discover a planet with similar temperature to Earth (at some 600 ly away). Let alone an atmosphere capable of sustaining Greenhouse Effect, a magnetic field to deflect harmful cosmic radiation, and liquid water, among other things.

Forgive me for saying, but to disregard Earth without knowing how important and unique it is is like disregarding your own mother (assuming you're not an orphan) without knowing the difficulty of giving birth to and raising a child.

The fact that I acknowledge my mother's primary part in my being alive doesn't mean that I'm obligated to be loyal to her or have any particular regard for her. What if she happened to be abusive (and if we ignore the anthropomorphization going on here, Earth was definitely not kind)? I mean, mine isn't, but declaring that one must be unconditionally loyal to something/one simply because of circumstance is foolish.

[Xilizhra]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Earth was definitely not kind

It's actually extraordinarily "kind", by any definition of the word. Humanity seems more like spoiled brat who's wasting the family fortune (e.g. by diggin up his elder siblings' rotten corpses and burning them for money) than an unfortunate child of an abusive parent.

But again, it may just be a difference in world view. While this might seem like hell to you, it's mostly the Garden of Eden for me.

The hellish aspects are certainly largely self-inflicted. But that wasn't quite my point, which is that Earth being endangered isn't necessarily any more of a motivation than the galaxy as a whole being endangered.

[Sebby]

TIM model reference



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[XEternalXDreamsX]

My Rene-Shep was cool with T.I.M.. most conversations went smooth and agreeable. Hope we can side with him since this is the last one.. branch out to the Cerberus!

[Sebby]

XEternalXDreamsX wrote...

My Rene-Shep was cool with T.I.M.. most conversations went smooth and agreeable. Hope we can side with him since this is the last one.. branch out to the Cerberus!

I'm afraid that's not possible.

[XzorshTheConqueror]

Seboist wrote...

XEternalXDreamsX wrote...

My Rene-Shep was cool with T.I.M.. most conversations went smooth and agreeable. Hope we can side with him since this is the last one.. branch out to the Cerberus!

I'm afraid that's not possible.

Bioware has hinted that they are modifying some things about the game based on fan reaction to the leaked spoilers. While it's a crapshoot, maybe they'll accomodate us Cerbies. :3

It's a major crapshoot, and even if we don't get our dream of taking over Cerberus, at the very least, they could give us Cerbies more roleplaying dialog options.

/crossing fingers

[feliciano2040]

So, I just finished reading TIM's shadow broker dossier.

Guy's a pimp !

[Sebby]

feliciano2040 wrote...

So, I just finished reading TIM's shadow broker dossier.

Guy's a pimp !

Yep!



The only thing missing in this shot is femshep!

[Xilizhra]

feliciano2040 wrote...

So, I just finished reading TIM's shadow broker dossier.

Guy's a pimp !

Thuggish nigh-slave owner who mistakes flamboyance for style? I'm not sure if it fits exactly, but there's potential there.