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[PlumPaul93]

I really hope it comes out that he's your father, yes that would be cheesy and it has little to no chance of happening, but I'd like to be right about something for once.

[Xilizhra]

wiggles89 wrote...

Who said that it did?

Some comment from Jennifer Hepler has absolutely nothing to do with whether CDProjekt is sexist. I have no idea why you brought that up.

Of course, I don't believe for a minute that she actually said that, and won't until you source it.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 25 janvier 2012 - 05:44 .

[Xilizhra]

wiggles89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Who said that it did?

Some comment from Jennifer Hepler has absolutely nothing to do with whether CDProjekt is sexist. I have no idea why you brought that up.

Way to miss the point entirely, Xili-cakes.

Which presumably has to do with you buying that she ever said anything like that?

[BlueMagitek]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

I really hope it comes out that he's your father, yes that would be cheesy and it has little to no chance of happening, but I'd like to be right about something for once.

Sole Survivor Shepard wouldn't have an issue with patricide, if that was the case. >_>

[Seboist]

It would prove my theory that TIM had his way with Hannah Shepard.

[BlueMagitek]

Seboist wrote...

It would prove my theory that TIM had his way with Hannah Shepard.

You know, I've never had a Spacer Shep; what's Hannah like anyway?

I don't know, isn't she just a Captain?  Given his SB profile, that's a bit... lower than his usual standard.

[Seboist]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It would prove my theory that TIM had his way with Hannah Shepard.

You know, I've never had a Spacer Shep; what's Hannah like anyway?

I don't know, isn't she just a Captain?  Given his SB profile, that's a bit... lower than his usual standard.

She's like.....I haven't a freaking clue. She barely says anything in ME1 and what little she does say is about some drunkard from the exclusive spacer side mission. She's just a captain but was offered a promotion over Shepard's "death" in ME2 but turned it down.

She's voiced by Helena Blake's VA too btw.

[BlueMagitek]

Seboist wrote...

She's like.....I haven't a freaking clue. She barely says anything in ME1 and what little she does say is about some drunkard from the exclusive spacer side mission. She's just a captain but was offered a promotion over Shepard's "death" in ME2 but turned it down.

She's voiced by Helena Blake's VA too btw.

Well that's unfortunate.  Ah well, Bioware said they'd do more background related things for ME 3, right?

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Shep, Wrex, and Jacob would then start a band called "I Killed My Father Too But You Don't Hear Me Whining About It".

Seriously
though, I think it's far more likely that TIM is actually Miranda's
father. "My father donated generously to Cerberus... until I joined..."
was just TIM's way of shrugging off taxes by donating to his own
organization.

Well, I don't know about Jacob.  I mean, he's pretty excited for getting smashed on the Citadel. 

Eh, that doesn't really match up what I remember from Miranda's LM.  Now, if it was getting her sister away from Cerberus, maybe, but that's where Orianna (is that her name?) goes, Cerberus protection.  

[Seboist]

Part of me thinks they should've made Miranda into TIM's daughter. Her creation fits his vision of human advancement.

And yeah they've claimed they're going to do more background related things.

[Ieldra]

Seboist wrote...
Part of me thinks they should've made Miranda into TIM's daughter. Her creation fits his vision of human advancement.

That would've made Cerberus almost a family business. And Miranda would've had to be a reluctant operative or her conflict with her father would've had to be dropped as a story element. All in all, a totally different setup than what we have, with characters having a totally different dynamic. Then add stereotype potential by the villain's daughter falling for Shepard. No, I don't think I would've liked it. Though I'd like a Miranda who is more aware of the fact that her enhancements are a great thing.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...
Part of me thinks they should've made Miranda into TIM's daughter. Her creation fits his vision of human advancement.

That would've made Cerberus almost a family business. And Miranda would've had to be a reluctant operative or her conflict with her father would've had to be dropped as a story element. All in all, a totally different setup than what we have, with characters having a totally different dynamic. Then add stereotype potential by the villain's daughter falling for Shepard. No, I don't think I would've liked it. Though I'd like a Miranda who is more aware of the fact that her enhancements are a great thing.

Meh, the series is full of overused tropes already, and this one could've actually added something to the experience, assuming it was properly integrated into the narrative itself.

Sure, the Oriana plot would need to be dropped in that case, but her influence on Miri wasn't that notable.

[Seboist]

They should have used Miranda's femme fatale and Cerberus loyalist concept and had TIM assign her to the Normandy in part to subtly "seduce" Sheploo to the cause. It's similar to my femshep/TIM concept but on a lower scale and "up close and personal".

The TIM daughter concept may or may not be part of that as well.

[Seboist]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Seboist wrote...

They should have used Miranda's femme fatale and Cerberus loyalist concept and had TIM assign her to the Normandy in part to subtly "seduce" Sheploo to the cause. It's similar to my femshep/TIM concept but on a lower scale and "up close and personal".

I thought this was already a valid interpretation of Miranda? And Kelly too, to an extent?

Although "femme fatale" is kind of ironic given that Shepard already died and Miranda helped revive them.

Well, neither tries to make any kind of move on him and the only kind of "seducing" on Miranda's part is those ass shots which were not of her own volition. I have no reason to believe either was there to seduce him to the cause anymore than Jacob was for femshep.

[John Renegade]

Seboist wrote...

They should have used Miranda's femme fatale and Cerberus loyalist concept and had TIM assign her to the Normandy in part to subtly "seduce" Sheploo to the cause. It's similar to my femshep/TIM concept but on a lower scale and "up close and personal".

The TIM daughter concept may or may not be part of that as well.

This reminds me the fanfiction I've recently red, where the theme of (a bit younger) Miranda having orders to seduce (a bit younger) Shepard is also featured. She is not TIM's daughter, but still...

As of chapter 20, the fanfiction is pretty good, even though a bit untraditional (featuring grey!Cerberus as well).

http://www.fanfictio...783/1/Hellhound

[Ultai]

Seboist wrote...

Good exchange from RPG Codex about the faults of writing and other issues with TOR,ME,DA and BW in general.

*snip*

Ha. Concerning LI squadmates and non-LI squadmates, the bsn reminds me of this www.youtube.com/watch

[Seboist]

Ultai wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Good exchange from RPG Codex about the faults of writing and other issues with TOR,ME,DA and BW in general.

*snip*

Ha. Concerning LI squadmates and non-LI squadmates, the bsn reminds me of this www.youtube.com/watch

And we know BW's answer to that question....

[Dean_the_Young]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...
Part of me thinks they should've made Miranda into TIM's daughter. Her creation fits his vision of human advancement.

That would've made Cerberus almost a family business. And Miranda would've had to be a reluctant operative or her conflict with her father would've had to be dropped as a story element. All in all, a totally different setup than what we have, with characters having a totally different dynamic. Then add stereotype potential by the villain's daughter falling for Shepard. No, I don't think I would've liked it. Though I'd like a Miranda who is more aware of the fact that her enhancements are a great thing.

You know what you probably would have hated, but I would have applauded?

If Miranda's entire development was a coldly calculated act, done to manipulate her way into Shepard's trust.

Nothing, after all, is more endearing than a tsundere. And nothing is more convincing than when you think you've dug up someone's inner self, and found their secret fears and feelings.


Great con men have entire cemetaries of inner selves buried around, for people to dig up as needed.


Of course, such a pull would only work if pulled off in the sequel, when the player is so sure they trust her that they'll break all kinds of rules to help her out. A friend in need is a friend in deed, after all, and hey: you got her loyalty...

[Blacklash93]

I'm amazed most of you don't just leave. You have nothing to contribute but whining.