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[BlueMagitek]

Saphra Deden wrote...

"Shepard, I want you to walk into this trap and take no precautions because this is our only chance and if the Collectors are tipped off then it is all for naught.

I need you to lie to your crew, Shepard."

Need to know basis, remember that (that goes for all of you).

Even Mordin and (possibly) Shepard agree in the end.

"Shepard, given our intelligence on the Collectors, there's a good chance that they've left something unpleasant behind.  Expect the worst."

This is a reasonable statement that doesn't tip off the Collectors if they get intel from the Shadow Broker; any person would come to the same conclusion when they see an abandoned, hostile enemy ship.  This way, when TIM reveals that he knew that it was a trap, his reasonsable "I couldn't risk them finding out we knew"  has the added bonus of a "but I did my best to warn you without letting them know."

I already said that not telling Shepard because of security concerns is understandable.

[BlueMagitek]

Saphra Deden wrote...

He'd still be lying to you though so what's the difference?

This lie has more truth in it. =D

[Dean_the_Young]

Seboist wrote...

Another TIM caricature concept (Spoilers)

That one has a touch of class, though. The cigarrete gives the impresion that he's still Human, somehow.

[The Love Runner]

The Illusive Man: "BSN users, I now have 250 dossiers for all of you..."

[Ashwraith]

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

*craters thread upon reentry*

Good lordhamercy, it's been a while. How's it been keeping?

[Kaiser Shepard]

Ashwraith wrote...

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

*craters thread upon reentry*

Good lordhamercy, it's been a while. How's it been keeping?

Welcome back, ma'am. How you doing?

[Dave of Canada]

Ashwraith wrote...

Good lordhamercy, it's been a while. How's it been keeping?

Hatred.

Lots of hatred.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seboist wrote...

Another TIM caricature concept (Spoilers)

Gave me a good chuckel. But isn't that just early concept art and not the finale version?

I liked the two other concept arts.

[Seboist]

Lizardviking wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Another TIM caricature concept (Spoilers)

Gave me a good chuckel. But isn't that just early concept art and not the finale version?

I liked the two other concept arts.

Early or not that they even considered such garbage doesn't bode well.

[Seboist]

Ashwraith wrote...

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

*craters thread upon reentry*

Good lordhamercy, it's been a while. How's it been keeping?

Welcome back blood sister. Boy, we have a lot to tell you about the sad fate of our boss.

[Dean_the_Young]

Seboist wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Another TIM caricature concept (Spoilers)

Gave me a good chuckel. But isn't that just early concept art and not the finale version?

I liked the two other concept arts.

Early or not that they even considered such garbage doesn't bode well.

To be fair, a lot of the early concepts change quite a bit, and often for the better. As much grief as the Termi-Reaper got, Reaper-Fetus abortion would have been worse. Both share a concept thought (Reapers are created from organics), but the execution differs wildly.

I agree that I dislike the 'TIM is Saren 2.0' thinking that went behind the process... but that's more on the principal of 'already been done' and 'unnecessary.'

[Dean_the_Young]

Saphra Deden wrote...

He's still a bad Final Fantasy or Star Craft villain with those spines coming off of his back.

To a point.

If he weren't indoctrinated, it might actually be pulled off as a 'I have mastered the unmasterable and expanded the limits.' The victory over Reaper infestation, rather than the surrender to it. That's why I like the cigarrete: it shows that the non-machine is still active.

[vonSlash]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

He's still a bad Final Fantasy or Star Craft villain with those spines coming off of his back.

To a point.

If he weren't indoctrinated, it might actually be pulled off as a 'I have mastered the unmasterable and expanded the limits.' The victory over Reaper infestation, rather than the surrender to it. That's why I like the cigarrete: it shows that the non-machine is still active.

I like this idea. Would fit his character well while still leaving some room for him to be repulsive to Paragons.

Sadly, Bioware doesn't think like that, and so we get stuck with concepts that are just....well, dumb.

[Ashwraith]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Welcome back, ma'am. How you doing?

Not too bad. My hard drive quit on me a few months back, and I've been having to reconstruct most of my data -including my Mass Effect games- from the ground up, which is the reason for my Mysterious Absence of Mysteriousness. Ah well. Universe, man.

Seboist wrote...

Welcome back blood sister. Boy, we have a lot to tell you about the sad fate of our boss.

Oh god.
I... I don't want to know, do I?

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hatred.

Lots of hatred.

I don't want to know I don't want to know I don't want to know

[Ashwraith]

EDIT: Double post, ahoy!

Modifié par Ashwraith, 11 février 2012 - 03:42 .

[Seboist]

Ashwraith wrote...

Oh god.
I... I don't want to know, do I?

Let's just  say that my already low expectations proved to be too high and what they did to TIM is just the tip of the iceberg that's the trainwreck called ME3.

[xanuen]

can someone upload a ilusive man morph head

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

He's still a bad Final Fantasy or Star Craft villain with those spines coming off of his back.

To a point.

If he weren't indoctrinated, it might actually be pulled off as a 'I have mastered the unmasterable and expanded the limits.' The victory over Reaper infestation, rather than the surrender to it. That's why I like the cigarrete: it shows that the non-machine is still active.

The spikes from his back kills it for me, gives him too much of an "evil monster" look. I don't mind his face and body glowing blue, just remove the spikes.

Saphra Deden wrote...
TIM being indoctrinated works against
his character. He's not interesting if he's just doing what the Reapers
want him to do. If he's not himself anymore.

I think Cerberus as a whole is less interesting when you turn them into clear enemies with no chance to be able to cooperate.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 11 février 2012 - 10:52 .

[Unpleasant Implications]

Seboist wrote...

Link to the caricature TIM turns into in ME3 (Spoilers)

What the f*ck was that!?... That's just concept right? Not real, just a side thought they could all chuckle at... They wouldn't sink that low... right?... Please someone tell me I'm right!

Modifié par Unpleasant Implications, 11 février 2012 - 11:07 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Apparently TIM Is no longer indoctrinated, or so I hope.

When they showed footage of that 2nd demo video earlier last year there was a line with Shepard saying to Liara about Cerberus: They're indoctrinated.

Now that line is replaced by: They're capable of anything.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 février 2012 - 11:09 .

[Xilizhra]

Ashwraith wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Welcome back, ma'am. How you doing?

Not too bad. My hard drive quit on me a few months back, and I've been having to reconstruct most of my data -including my Mass Effect games- from the ground up, which is the reason for my Mysterious Absence of Mysteriousness. Ah well. Universe, man.

Seboist wrote...

Welcome back blood sister. Boy, we have a lot to tell you about the sad fate of our boss.

Oh god.
I... I don't want to know, do I?

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hatred.

Lots of hatred.

I don't want to know I don't want to know I don't want to know

Basically, TIM turned out to be what nearly everyone outside a few people in this thread could see coming from ten miles away.