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[Xilizhra]

...and that is just ridiculous because of Sovereign is going to conduct a war through the rachni then it would logically stay 'awake' to command the war. Part of running a war would mean knowing where all the relays the rachni can use are located. They're a strategic asset.

And if Sovereign was conducting the war, you'd see things like queens being evacuated to produce an unpleasant surprise later on, planting agents among the krogan, things like that. Sovereign doesn't have to be stupid, either; perhaps it was running low on the amount of energy it could be safe to use for one period of wakefulness, and indoctrinating the rachni was its last act. Remember it was the Citadel who found the rachni; Sovereign definitely didn't plan the timing of the Wars.

[Seboist]

Xilizhra wrote...

I never bothered to bring him there... of course, I'm a vanguard, I could never travel without Liara, and I need Tali for engineering purposes. What exactly does he say, and does he say anything after saving her?

Wrex sez,

"There are acid tanks rigged up on that thing. Set them off. Millions of my ancestors died to put these things down. Don't let them come back."

"Are you stupid? Your People didn't fight these bastards, so maybe you don't get it!"

"Do What you want. My people will clean up this mess later. Just like we did for the salarians."

He must've been smoking some strong dope to make him forget all this in between the two games.

Oh well. I'm much more sympathetic to the rachni, who were indoctrinated into this, than the krogan, who were just ****s.

Wait a minute. Ass... hole. ****?
Television makes a lot of sense.

You an AVGN fan? :happy:

[Seboist]

PrimalEden wrote...

Just don't destroy all the work you put into your Shepard. Guide her to the end at least.
I could go into a lengthy explanation of how ME2 has subtly shifted in favor of renegades, but I'd rather not talk your ears off too much.

Oh don't worry, I won't get rid of her. She's not even my main Shepard. Even if the Cerberus stuff doesn't go well I might still import her anyway just to see the other outcomes* and to play as a Vanguard. :happy:

*This was also the only playthrough I created to see what they would do with Wreav and Morinth in ME3.

Modifié par Seboist, 18 septembre 2011 - 07:12 .

[Xilizhra]

He must've been smoking some strong dope to make him forget all this in between the two games.

He's high on political accomplishment. Remember that he was a bitter wreck in ME1.

You an AVGN fan?

Indeed. I do hope the movie goes well.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Ashwraith wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Seboist wrote...
I know that you also want your Shepard to have his looks,charm,charisma,intelligence and the women he gets.

Close enough; it's the chair I'm after. 

You can have the chair, but I get his suit.

...Though, considering I'm 5' 2" and female, I'd probably just disappear into the fabric. >.>

Oh, how cute! :3

Ahem...

Saphra Deden wrote...

I also stand by my statement that the Alliance would have made a better antagonist. With Earth occupied by the Reapers who is more likely to collaborate with the enemy just to survive? The leaders on Earth of-course and they have a lot of influence over the Alliance. It might have been interesting to see the Alliance fractured a bit. Perhaps with Hackett and his fleet refusing to heed Earth's demands.

That actually would have been a decent twist, yeah.

Xilizhra wrote...

Again, they didn't think the Collectors had anything worth trading until Shepard found the Reaper being made.

Of course Cerberus thought they did, after all that's what the entire game ultimately is about from TIM's perspective: acquiring all their tech on his own terms.

Seboist wrote...

I'll put it this way, It's better to be a pessimist than ends up being pleasantly surprised than an optimist that gets burned.

Yeah, it's still amazing how many naive people are on here, expecting every single choice from the entire series to matter just in ME3. Oh well, they'll be the pessimists (and apologists) of tomorrow...

Seboist wrote...

I'd like to see an alternate reality ME2 where the Shadow Broker was successful in delivering Shepard's body to the Collectors and the player takes control of a reanimated Reaper avatar Shepard whilst Cerberus tries to stop him/her. Apart from fighting Cerberus, Shepard could assist in colony abductions, spreading plagues and provoking instability between the Terminus and Council space.

If we're going back to "fix" things, we might as well return to the initial basis that was the original Mass Effect (+ Revelation and Ascension) and then have the series take a more logical path.

Xilizhra wrote...

Oh well. I'm much more sympathetic to the rachni, who were indoctrinated into this, than the krogan, who were just ****s.

Sigh, why must you always defy all logic and reason?

[Xilizhra]

Sigh, why must you always defy all logic and reason?

What? The krogan didn't need to claim already occupied planets.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Sigh, why must you always defy all logic and reason?

What? The krogan didn't need to claim already occupied planets.

They did, that was part of the problem: they weren't ready to be uplifted just yet. In the end, they were just the Council's sacrificial lamb against the onslaught of the rachni horde.

Also, there's a AVGN movie coming up? How is that even going to work?

[Xilizhra]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Sigh, why must you always defy all logic and reason?

What? The krogan didn't need to claim already occupied planets.

They did, that was part of the problem: they weren't ready to be uplifted just yet. In the end, they were just the Council's sacrificial lamb against the onslaught of the rachni horde.

Also, there's a AVGN movie coming up? How is that even going to work?

They could have found less populated planets if their culture and mindset wasn't as disastrous as it was.

As for the movie, it'll apparently be about E.T, the game.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Sigh, why must you always defy all logic and reason?

What? The krogan didn't need to claim already occupied planets.

They did, that was part of the problem: they weren't ready to be uplifted just yet. In the end, they were just the Council's sacrificial lamb against the onslaught of the rachni horde.

Also, there's a AVGN movie coming up? How is that even going to work?

They could have found less populated planets if their culture and mindset wasn't as disastrous as it was.

As for the movie, it'll apparently be about E.T, the game.

Not the krogan's fault that the rest of the galaxy tried to forcibly assimilate them, and they still owed the krogan their entire existance. Seeing how you always seem to go full Paragon, did you keep Maelon's data and do you plan to use it in ME3?

And wow, just wow...

[Xilizhra]

I kept the data, though I didn't excoriate Mordin over the genophage issue. What I'll do with it in the next game, I haven't yet decided.

[Seboist]

TIMxMirandaxSheploo

[Seboist]

I wonder if TIM really has scored Miranda? There has to be a reason he let her on his personal space station and dressed in that skimpy catsuit....

[Seboist]

laecraft wrote...

Possibly. TIM has a habit of surrounding himself with beautiful women, he does it in the books too. Like that professional-looking gorgeous brunette that was serving him drinks. They're not necessary all for sex - some are just there to be a pleasant sight for the eyes. TIM's got them all sorted out according to their tasks and abilities.

All I know is that TIM better recognize my femshep as the Queen **** of the Harper household if he knows what's good for him. :happy:

[Xilizhra]

By the end of the game, the people had so much pent-up frustration and rage that it was enough to blow up entire base. And they're still not satisfied. They need to kill TIM personally. After torturing him thoroughly. And then claim his organization, and have sex with his brunette assistant on his desk. Now who's the king of the hill!

Actually, I think it's worked out perfectly. The people who disagree with Cerberus have every motive to make it personal, and the people who agree will be able to feel shocked and betrayed, thus also making it personal.

[Seboist]

Xilizhra wrote...

By the end of the game, the people had so much pent-up frustration and rage that it was enough to blow up entire base. And they're still not satisfied. They need to kill TIM personally. After torturing him thoroughly. And then claim his organization, and have sex with his brunette assistant on his desk. Now who's the king of the hill!

Actually, I think it's worked out perfectly. The people who disagree with Cerberus have every motive to make it personal, and the people who agree will be able to feel shocked and betrayed, thus also making it personal.

Cerberus fans feel shocked and betrayed but not by TIM.

[Xilizhra]

Given that it's TIM doing the betraying...

Eh, this bit of information maybe was leaked too soon. It removed the shock of the visceral truth of learning about Cerberus in-game, now you just blame Bioware as a defense mechanism.

[Ramus Quaritch]

My guess is that he is Saren 2.0. He probably made a deal with the Reapers to preserve humanity by helping them take out Shepard and then got indoctrinated in the process. He did encounter that Reaper artifact in Evolution, so that could make it easier for the Reapers to mess with his head.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

 I thought this girl made some good arguements for the postion that Cerberus has always worked for the reapers. I started with part 2 because that's where she starts talking about the Cerberus/reaper connection. 

[Seboist]

Xilizhra wrote...

Given that it's TIM doing the betraying...

Eh, this bit of information maybe was leaked too soon. It removed the shock of the visceral truth of learning about Cerberus in-game, now you just blame Bioware as a defense mechanism.

How could they have possible hidden the fact that Cerberus are 40 percent of the enemies for long? Either way, it's like choosing whether one prefers to know they're going to be punched in the face ahead of time or not.

All the bull**** with the way imports/choices/outcomes were handled in ME2 and now this has left me disillusioned with the series and with Bioware. That I sometimes consider cancelling my pre-order of the CE of a sequel to my top two favorite games of all time, labeling it non-canon and look more forward to a sequel to Bayonetta(that may never happen) really illustrates this.

[Xilizhra]

Why is it that you want to change who TIM is so drastically without even knowing the details of the game?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Xilizhra wrote...

Given that it's TIM doing the betraying...

Eh, this bit of information maybe was leaked too soon. It removed the shock of the visceral truth of learning about Cerberus in-game, now you just blame Bioware as a defense mechanism.

Aren't you the one claiming that "Orsino's downfall wasn't story-related in the slightest; the devs just wanted another boss battle."?

TIM's downfall wasn't story-related in the slightest; the devs just wanted another opposing force.