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[Sebby]

Chairman Mao is a good man, Renegade Shepard quotes him in "The Negotiation".

[GodWood]

Xilizhra wrote...
I will admit there's a difference; Mao was just a standard tyrant with a fatal misunderstanding of agriculture, while Pol Pot didn't seem to have any real goals other than mass murder.

Pol Pot had goals; they were just stupid.

And you speak as if Mao failed.
Yes he did make some terrible decisions but he did turn China from a feudal backwater country into a modern superpower.

[Xilizhra]

GodWood wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I will admit there's a difference; Mao was just a standard tyrant with a fatal misunderstanding of agriculture, while Pol Pot didn't seem to have any real goals other than mass murder.

Pol Pot had goals; they were just stupid.

And you speak as if Mao failed.
Yes he did make some terrible decisions but he did turn China from a feudal backwater country into a modern superpower.

Yes, but I suspect there were ways to do that that didn't involve killing millions with famine in two different but equally idiotic ways (the backyard steel foundries and sparrow purge being the ones I remember off the top of my head; the steel was terrible anyway).

Modifié par Xilizhra, 25 septembre 2011 - 03:41 .

[Ashwraith]

Seboist wrote...

Chairman Mao is a good man, Renegade Shepard quotes him in "The Negotiation".

...Um.

[Sebby]

Renegade Shepard thinks so and I'm not one to disagree.

[Xilizhra]

Renegade Shepard is a, shall we say, Spaceball One crewman.

[Sebby]

Xilizhra wrote...

Renegade Shepard is a, shall we say, Spaceball One crewman.

Renegade Shepard is a strong woman, she perseveres in the face of Bioware's lopsided Paragon bias and Paragons labeling her a "jerk" and "evil".

A feminist icon she is.

[Ieldra]

I can only assume you're speaking in-character now, Seboist. Or I'd have to conclude you're off the rails 

(that was about the Mao comment)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 septembre 2011 - 04:04 .

[Xilizhra]

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Renegade Shepard is a, shall we say, Spaceball One crewman.

Renegade Shepard is a strong woman, she perseveres in the face of Bioware's lopsided Paragon bias and Paragons labeling her a "jerk" and "evil".

A feminist icon she is.

Ah, right, so you won't ragequit if you have to kill TIM? You'll persevere?

[Sebby]

Xilizhra wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Renegade Shepard is a, shall we say, Spaceball One crewman.

Renegade Shepard is a strong woman, she perseveres in the face of Bioware's lopsided Paragon bias and Paragons labeling her a "jerk" and "evil".

A feminist icon she is.

Ah, right, so you won't ragequit if you have to kill TIM? You'll persevere?

Of course not, I have no problem with killing a robot imposter of the real TIM.

[Sebby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I can only assume you're speaking in-character now, Seboist. Or I'd have to conclude you're off the rails 

(that was about the Mao comment)

You wouldn't believe how many melted barrels my Shepard has had to replace over putting Mao's quote into action.

[Ieldra]

Seboist wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
I can only assume you're speaking in-character now, Seboist. Or I'd have to conclude you're off the rails 

(that was about the Mao comment)

You wouldn't believe how many melted barrels my Shepard has had to replace over putting Mao's quote into action.

Which quote? If that was in "The Negotiation", I don't recall it.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 septembre 2011 - 04:40 .

[Sebby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
I can only assume you're speaking in-character now, Seboist. Or I'd have to conclude you're off the rails 

(that was about the Mao comment)

You wouldn't believe how many melted barrels my Shepard has had to replace over putting Mao's quote into action.

Which quote? If that was in "The Negotiation", I don't recall it.

Shepard paraphrased "all political power comes from the barrel of a gun" .

[General User]

To be fair, Mao may have been paraphrasing Al Capone.
"You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word."

And Al Capone could be said to be paraphrasing Teddy Roosevelt.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

I'm sure there are others, afterall there is nothing new under the sun (or in space apparently).  Using force and intimidation to get others to do what you want is hardly a new idea.

Modifié par General User, 25 septembre 2011 - 04:54 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Saphra Deden wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Besides, you can probably board a Reaper and fight your way to the master core to destroy it from the inside.

That's stupid.

You're expecting anything but at this point?

[Sebby]

I wouldn't be surprised to we end up going inside of Harbinger.

[Agamo45]

GodWood wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I will admit there's a difference; Mao was just a standard tyrant with a fatal misunderstanding of agriculture, while Pol Pot didn't seem to have any real goals other than mass murder.

Pol Pot had goals; they were just stupid.

And you speak as if Mao failed.
Yes he did make some terrible decisions but he did turn China from a feudal backwater country into a modern superpower.

Uh, no he didn't. Mao's rule of China was largely disastrous, he probably set the country back by decades. It was only after he died that China began to prosper economically under the reforms of Deng Xiaoping which reversed the failed Communist policies.

[Dave of Canada]

Seboist wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised to we end up going inside of Harbinger.

As long as he let's me buy him dinner first, I won't think anything less of him.

[Sebby]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised to we end up going inside of Harbinger.

As long as he let's me buy him dinner first, I won't think anything less of him.

Bend to me Harby. <3

[PauseforEffect]

Seboist wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Renegade Shepard is a, shall we say, Spaceball One crewman.

Renegade Shepard is a strong woman, she perseveres in the face of Bioware's lopsided Paragon bias and Paragons labeling her a "jerk" and "evil".

A feminist icon she is.

Someone who plays as a renegade does not mean they are evil by default. Certain times in the game, a renegade can be protective of their teammates or defensive of a moral decision. It is that they are more forceful in their delivery.
And paragons undergo their own accusations of being naive, self-righteous and illogical.
Because it's a binary system, people who play paragon or renegade are often pigeon-holed when their reasons are more complicated. I've learned that both sides want the same thing: A good future for humanity.
It's just the methods we're strangling each other over.

[Ashwraith]

I've been at work today, so alas, I only have one TIMShep shot for y'all.
Tomorrow's my day off, though, so I'll see if I can't slap up some more then.

Whether or not the Illusive Man is a great man, a ruthless dictator, a magnificent bastard, or malleable putty as the plot demands, one thing is certain:

He has an incredibly cheesy grin.



...Actually, come to think of it, he kind of looks like he's expecting someone to wallop him one. >.>

"Is this because of that whole 'indoctrination' thi-"
*WUNCH*

Modifié par Ashwraith, 26 septembre 2011 - 06:53 .

[Dave of Canada]

Ashwraith wrote...

He has an incredibly cheesy grin.



...Actually, come to think of it, he kind of looks like he's expecting someone to wallop him one. >.>

"Is this because of that whole 'indoctrination' thi-"
*WUNCH*

"How about we term- oh, hey! Subject Zero! We were just talk-"
*smack*

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 septembre 2011 - 06:58 .