Kaiser Shepard wrote...
This post just made my day, reminded me of the ThePwener incident three or so weeks ago.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Oooh, he's taken a philosophy class.Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Blame my philosophy class.
Watch out, people. This guy is serious. He's all philosophical and ****.
Out of morbid curiosity, care to elaborate?Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
This post just made my day, reminded me of the ThePwener incident three or so weeks ago.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Oooh, he's taken a philosophy class.Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Blame my philosophy class.
Watch out, people. This guy is serious. He's all philosophical and ****.
I honestly don't recall much, but there was a heated discussion on the ME3 forum where ThePwener would constantly response to people saying that they are wrong and don't know what they're talking about, before proceeding to give his own input on the matter and telling everyone that he's a psychology major and naturally knows better than them. Someone eventually caught up with him and told him to "pick a new major", at which point ThePwener was seriously pissed off and rage-quit. He hasn't been on since, as far as I know.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Out of morbid curiosity, care to elaborate?Fiery Phoenix wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
This post just made my day, reminded me of the ThePwener incident three or so weeks ago.Dean_the_Young wrote...
Oooh, he's taken a philosophy class.Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Blame my philosophy class.
Watch out, people. This guy is serious. He's all philosophical and ****.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 septembre 2011 - 04:00 .
Not sure what the thread was originally about, but it eventually evolved into the usual Paragon vs Renegade topic. I got into a discussion with ThePwener and eventually brought up a Rachni Queen discussion we had not too long before, after which he went all "You wouldn't kill her in real life, I know because I have 2 psychology classes aweek."Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I honestly don't recall much, but there was a heated discussion on the ME3 forum where ThePwener would constantly response to people saying that they are wrong and don't know what they're talking about, before proceeding to give his own input on the matter and telling everyone that he's a psychology major and naturally knows better than them. Someone eventually caught up with him and told him to "pick a new major", at which point ThePwener was seriously pissed off and rage-quit. He hasn't been on since, as far as I know.
It was pretty hilarious alright. I can't seem to remember what the thread was about, though.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Rewatched the Martin Sheen interview and while he's calling TIM a horrible man, a thought is going through my mind: Does he know what TIM does in ME3 or is he simply repeating how he wouldn't trust The Illusive Man? He says he didn't do his lines yet and he's waiting for his script.
Do voice actors get any knowledge before they record their lines or do they go in the booth, get told what to do and walk out without any more knowledge / context?
Seboist wrote...
Who knows, he prolly got a more detailed characterization of TIM from Bioware than what we got in ME2 or the books/comics when he started out voicing him.
I suspect that they had a few different scenarios ready that they'd flesh out more depending on how the fans reacted.Dave of Canada wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Who knows, he prolly got a more detailed characterization of TIM from Bioware than what we got in ME2 or the books/comics when he started out voicing him.
Probably, though I doubt his ME2 characterization included whatever would transpire with Mass Effect 3. I assume if more people were pro-Cerberus or kept the Collector Base, we'd see an entirely different situation play out.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Who knows, he prolly got a more detailed characterization of TIM from Bioware than what we got in ME2 or the books/comics when he started out voicing him.
Probably, though I doubt his ME2 characterization included whatever would transpire with Mass Effect 3. I assume if more people were pro-Cerberus or kept the Collector Base, we'd see an entirely different situation play out.
Xilizhra wrote...
I suspect that they had a few different scenarios ready that they'd flesh out more depending on how the fans reacted.Dave of Canada wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Who knows, he prolly got a more detailed characterization of TIM from Bioware than what we got in ME2 or the books/comics when he started out voicing him.
Probably, though I doubt his ME2 characterization included whatever would transpire with Mass Effect 3. I assume if more people were pro-Cerberus or kept the Collector Base, we'd see an entirely different situation play out.
How strange. The murderphiles that are the krogan population seem to have been gotten a reasonably fair treatment. Both sides of the quarian/geth issue are fair. Etc.We just have to face facts that Bioware will never give give any non-politically correct faction like Terra Firma,Cerberus,etc or character an even handed portrayal.
Lizardviking wrote...
It would be terrible if they actually based the main plot on what fans would want.
Well, it's not like this is some kind of politician's war game for training in when to make huge sacrifices.Most people want to feel warm and fuzzy on the inside while doing the "right" thing, it's an unfortunate reality.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Rewatched the Martin Sheen interview and while he's calling TIM a horrible man, a thought is going through my mind: Does he know what TIM does in ME3 or is he simply repeating how he wouldn't trust The Illusive Man? He says he didn't do his lines yet and he's waiting for his script.
Do voice actors get any knowledge before they record their lines or do they go in the booth, get told what to do and walk out without any more knowledge / context?
Xilizhra wrote...
Well, it's not like this is some kind of politician's war game for training in when to make huge sacrifices.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 septembre 2011 - 05:43 .
JamieCOTC wrote...
I don't know about Martin Sheen and TIM, but Jennifer Hale has stated on more than one occasion that she got very little info on Shepard before hand.
Xilizhra wrote...
How strange. The murderphiles that are the krogan population seem to have been gotten a reasonably fair treatment. Both sides of the quarian/geth issue are fair. Etc.We just have to face facts that Bioware will never give give any non-politically correct faction like Terra Firma,Cerberus,etc or character an even handed portrayal.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
It would be terrible if they actually based the main plot on what fans would want.
It's terrible but logical. They'd rather cater to the majority who buys their game than the minority, as an angry minority is less harmful than pleasing the majority. Hypothetically, if they completely removed everything Renegade, we'd get a few angry threads but everybody who's ever only played Paragon would love it because they get all the content.
How much resources do they save in exchange for sales lost, ect ect. It's all a game of gambling, psychology and money.
Most people want to feel warm and fuzzy on the inside while doing the "right" thing, it's an unfortunate reality.
Of course, a factor you're missing is that none of the ones I mentioned are all about racial supremacy, which is what Terra Firma and Cerberus both espouse. Is it wrong that we haven't met nonhuman supremacists (other than, um, Saren... and Joram Talid... neither of whom were sympathetic in the slightest...)? Perhaps. But it's not wrong to decry the human ones.Seboist wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
How strange. The murderphiles that are the krogan population seem to have been gotten a reasonably fair treatment. Both sides of the quarian/geth issue are fair. Etc.We just have to face facts that Bioware will never give give any non-politically correct faction like Terra Firma,Cerberus,etc or character an even handed portrayal.
Aliens are held to a higher standard than humans and get a pass by both the devs and the fanbase. Krogans are the "noble savage" and Geth/Quarian portrayal is hardly fair, the games railroad my Shepard into scolding Tali about her people's handling of the Geth and into considering them equal to organics.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 30 septembre 2011 - 05:51 .
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Cerberus does not espouse racial supremacy. It is a nationalist organization. That the nation happens to be a race is incidental.
So would a human going off to live in asari space... would that just be considered emigration? Or something worse in the "unnatural" style?Seboist wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
Cerberus does not espouse racial supremacy. It is a nationalist organization. That the nation happens to be a race is incidental.
Yep, same with Terra Firma, which all my Shepards voted for and endorsed the candidacy of Mr. Saracino.
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