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Newsarama article: Shepard reinstated in the Alliance, stealth options for guns, much more in-depth customization.


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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

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Didn't Liara already give Shepard her dog tags in LOTSB?

Those were the tags Shepard had when (s)he died. They're not valid anymore.

Most likely this, yes. Kind of like the original N7 armor/helmet.


Wouldn't that imply that Anderson had dog tags specificly made for shepard (doubt the Alliance would make dogtags to a person they consider a war criminal)? Still strange considering Shepard was on trial and most likely to be sent into prison.

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I don't have a problem with going back to the Alliance, since I don't think they're bad. At least not as bad as Cerberus.

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I don't have a problem with going back to the Alliance, since I don't think they're bad. At least not as bad as Cerberus.


The Alliance reminds me of the US government.



I don't like them very much.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Didn't Liara already give Shepard her dog tags in LOTSB?


I'm guessing one of two things happen:

- Shepard takes his/her dog tags from the Normandy and wears them to his/her trial. They're confiscated by the Alliance, or Anderson/Hackett asks him/her to remove them because wearing them to the trial might cause issues. Anderson then takes them back before leaving the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.

- The dog tags are taken from the Normandy, either by Anderson, the Alliance or one of Shepard's squadmates (LI?), while it's being refitted. Anderson ends up with them in his posession during the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...2. 'In addition to weapons, the abilities your character possesses are much more customizable in ME3 than in ME2. You will start with a "powered-up" Shepard, especially when importing your character from Mass Effect 2, though the exact details of that have not yet been revealed. Long-time fans will recognize most of the abilities, but they will be able to use them and upgrade them in ways they never have before. Passive abilities, like Combat Mastery has several different subcategories under it, like Damage, Recharge Speed, Influence & Duration, Headshots, Weapon Mastery, Influence & Damage, Influence & Dilation. In other words, you won't just add a point to "Operative." Instead, you'll get to choose exactly where that point gets spent, and what boost it gives your Shepard.'


It's a definite improvement upon ME2,  but it still lacks non-combat skills.  I agree it's definitely an improvement though.  At least you can customize,  the only problem I have with the system is the derth of non-combat skills and the rumors that morality is something you put points into,  which is ridiculous.

At least my Shepherd won't be identical to the next guy's though,  and that's a 100% move in the right direction.

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Mysten wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Didn't Liara already give Shepard her dog tags in LOTSB?


I'm guessing one of two things happen:

- Shepard takes his/her dog tags from the Normandy and wears them to his/her trial. They're confiscated by the Alliance, or Anderson/Hackett asks him/her to remove them because wearing them to the trial might cause issues. Anderson then takes them back before leaving the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.

- The dog tags are taken from the Normandy, either by Anderson, the Alliance or one of Shepard's squadmates (LI?), while it's being refitted. Anderson ends up with them in his posession during the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.


Problem is. In some cases, Liara still has the dogtags (Some players did not invite her up to the ship in LOTSB). So they must be new or Liara has send the old one back (unlikely).

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It looks like the Alliance truly ceased to exist. Anderson's gesture is more symbolic than anything. How could his words have any power if he stays back on Earth? Soon, the Reapers will block the orbit and cut off all communications between the Earth and the rest of the galaxy. Anderson is heading into the enemy territory and he gives Shepard his status back?

Looks like a last-ditch attempt to get Shepard's loyalty back. That, or Anderson is trying to make Shepard follow his orders, and how could you do so if Shepard's not with the Alliance? He's pulling the rank, so to speak - pulling on the last remaining string that connects him to Shepard. Maybe Shepard didn't want to leave Anderson here. Or maybe Shepard didn't want to leave the Earth. In any case, it's a very cold good-bye, since Shepard isn't bound to follow anyone's orders anymore, with the Alliance or not, and Anderson is a jerk.

That's right, Shepard, step aside, Anderson wants to be a self-sacrificing hero, and you're interfering with his biggest dream. Maybe he hates Shepard now, for working with Cerberus to save those colonies. Maybe he thinks it's something he should've done. Or maybe he's just tired from inaction ever since being forcibly retired in ME1, and he's impatient to start fighting.

Anyway, Anderson carries Shepard's dog tags with him? Aww, how sweet. Looks like Shepard was stripped of his rank after all, during the trial. Maybe they even officially expelled him from the Alliance, during the sentence. And confiscated his dog tags.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Mysten wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Didn't Liara already give Shepard her dog tags in LOTSB?


I'm guessing one of two things happen:

- Shepard takes his/her dog tags from the Normandy and wears them to his/her trial. They're confiscated by the Alliance, or Anderson/Hackett asks him/her to remove them because wearing them to the trial might cause issues. Anderson then takes them back before leaving the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.

- The dog tags are taken from the Normandy, either by Anderson, the Alliance or one of Shepard's squadmates (LI?), while it's being refitted. Anderson ends up with them in his posession during the trial and hands them to Shepard as s/he departs Earth.


Problem is. In some cases, Liara still has the dogtags (Some players did not invite her up to the ship in LOTSB). So they must be new or Liara has send the old one back (unlikely).

I imagine it would just be the same as if the player hasn't played LotSB at all but Mass Effect 3 still assumes it happened. Liara gave Shepard his/her dogtags during the time between the end of 2 and the start of 3 - possibly explicitly so s/he can wear them to the trial.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

4. '[Cerberus] is indoctrinated. They are capable of anything.'

Most of us already heard that line in the E3 demo and since then Casey has said it was a simplified version of the situation for TV. I felt it was worth noting because it will be picked up on anyway by people reading the article, but I'd rather the discussion of whether Cerberus is actually indoctrinated is left for a different thread - we've been told we won't get the full story until the game releases and most other threads about Cerberus devolve quickly, so I'd really rather this point isn't discussed too much, if possible.


This had me thinking:  Cerberus is indoctrinated, but that's a simplified explanation.  Maybe, just maybe, they're indoctrinated by someone other than the Reapers...
If TIM's been studying indoctrination, it might explain where he's getting all his manpower now...:wizard:

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*reads title only to avoid other spoilers* Reinstated into the Alliance, eh? Andraste's dimpled butt cheeks! I guess this means the soldier seen holding a Widow and sportin' Alliance-issue blue camo armour in the Fall of Earth trailer was manShep after all? Could've sworn it was Vega! Eh, not gonna give up hope just yet. NEVAR. *clings to it desperately*

Modifié par ACWolfe, 10 juillet 2011 - 12:00 .


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That is still Vega, you can see him when Shepard gets back on the Normandy.

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How is that Vega? He's helmeted, in generic armor (the model I mean) and nothing resembling his AAP armor (remember those are merely recolors) and the build doesn't match up at all.

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ACWolfe wrote...

*reads title only to avoid other spoilers* Reinstated into the Alliance, eh? Andraste's dimpled butt cheeks! I guess this means the soldier seen holding a Widow and sportin' Alliance-issue blue camo armour in the Fall of Earth trailer was manShep after all? Could've sworn it was Vega! Eh, not gonna give up hope just yet. NEVAR. *clings to it desperately*

 

That's not Shepard. 

You see same dude on Normandy while Shepard jumps onboard. 

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Perhaps Shepard will be able to wear different armors like in ME2. ME2 came with optional Cerberus armor. ME3 might come with optional Alliance armor. Would be cool.

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Perhaps Shepard will be able to wear different armors like in ME2. ME2 came with optional Cerberus armor. ME3 might come with optional Alliance armor. Would be cool.

I'm holding out for femShep getting her own military jacket uniform (possibly an N7 re-colour of Ash's outfit) that can be worn for missions. Even if it had awful stats, I've always put aesthetics first - which makes playing the first game rather difficult as every single armour set other than Onyx looks awful on Shepard, except Spectre armour of course but the lack of console commands on the Xbox 360 be damned.

I'd rather kick ass in style than be practical but an eyesore.

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iakus wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

4. '[Cerberus] is indoctrinated. They are capable of anything.'

Most of us already heard that line in the E3 demo and since then Casey has said it was a simplified version of the situation for TV. I felt it was worth noting because it will be picked up on anyway by people reading the article, but I'd rather the discussion of whether Cerberus is actually indoctrinated is left for a different thread - we've been told we won't get the full story until the game releases and most other threads about Cerberus devolve quickly, so I'd really rather this point isn't discussed too much, if possible.


This had me thinking:  Cerberus is indoctrinated, but that's a simplified explanation.  Maybe, just maybe, they're indoctrinated by someone other than the Reapers...
If TIM's been studying indoctrination, it might explain where he's getting all his manpower now...:wizard:


Hasn't Indoctrination always been a simplified explanation?

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 10 juillet 2011 - 12:55 .


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Sounds cool. I'm very excited about the sheer level of customization of weapons and skills.

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Did anybody else see that collapsing planet in the interview trailer?

Deep anomalies of Ploba me thinks.....

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luk4s3d wrote...

Did anybody else see that collapsing planet in the interview trailer?

Deep anomalies of Ploba me thinks.....


Nope, that's from the Star Trek movie.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

How is that Vega? He's helmeted, in generic armor (the model I mean) and nothing resembling his AAP armor (remember those are merely recolors) and the build doesn't match up at all.


Then again, that AA armor is very bulky. His actual body lines are way beneath all that plating.

Though, I still think it's just some Alliance grunt with a Widow. A modified Widow that won't shatter his arm. 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

luk4s3d wrote...

Did anybody else see that collapsing planet in the interview trailer?

Deep anomalies of Ploba me thinks.....


Nope, that's from the Star Trek movie.


You're joking, What the hell is it doing in the middle of an ME video?

*Sadface*

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For crying out loud it should be up to shepard on whether or not to re join the alliance or not, I don't like the fact shepard is being forced to join the alliace, It should be up to the player not already decided. I also would like to say I'd like the option to get rid of Kaiden like I did with Ashley in ME1. 


As there are those of us who really didn't want to team up with Cerberus in ME2...I remember I just about choked the first time I played ME2, when Jacob told Shep it was Cerberus....I spent the rest of my first game trying to find ways to dump them....I'm not a huge fan of the Alliance either, but that beats the hell out of being forced to work with Cerberus again.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Hasn't Indoctrination always been a simplified explanation?


I mean, when we think "indoctrination" typically the thought is "Reapers!"  But what if TIM finally managed to work all the bugs out and decided he can best save humanity by indoctrinating his own army.  

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

Article



**Spoilers***












(I don't know whether this article has been talked about yet. Its been out since June, but some of the information was new to me and I've spent a fair bit on the forums so I figured I may as well share it.)

The main things to take from the article:


1. 'Once they reach the Normandy, however, Anderson proclaims that he is staying behind to help others escape (but not before throwing Shepard her dog tags and saying she should consider herself reinstated in the Alliance Military).'

It would appear that Shepard is definitely back in the Alliance. This should have been clear seeing as he was being given the Normandy back, but at least there is more confirmation now. Perhaps the trial goes in Shepard's favour.



2. 'In addition to weapons, the abilities your character possesses are much more customizable in ME3 than in ME2. You will start with a "powered-up" Shepard, especially when importing your character from Mass Effect 2, though the exact details of that have not yet been revealed. Long-time fans will recognize most of the abilities, but they will be able to use them and upgrade them in ways they never have before. Passive abilities, like Combat Mastery has several different subcategories under it, like Damage, Recharge Speed, Influence & Duration, Headshots, Weapon Mastery, Influence & Damage, Influence & Dilation. In other words, you won't just add a point to "Operative." Instead, you'll get to choose exactly where that point gets spent, and what boost it gives your Shepard.'

This seems way beyond the level of customization seen in either ME1 or ME2, so fans of RPGs should be very pleased to hear this. I'm delighted to see this.



3. 'The sheer amount of customization we saw, from weapon elements that will change rate of fire to damage to more stealthy styles was astounding.'

While we already know about weapon customization, I was unaware that stealthy options were going to be available. Silenced guns for infltrators perhaps? My main Shep is an inflitrator, so consider be very excited by this, even if it is rather vague. It also sounds like there will be a lot of options, so yet again it seems Bioware is going way beyond anything seen in either ME game with regards to customization. RPG fans rejoice. 



4. '[Cerberus] is indoctrinated. They are capable of anything.'

Most of us already heard that line in the E3 demo and since then Casey has said it was a simplified version of the situation for TV. I felt it was worth noting because it will be picked up on anyway by people reading the article, but I'd rather the discussion of whether Cerberus is actually indoctrinated is left for a different thread - we've been told we won't get the full story until the game releases and most other threads about Cerberus devolve quickly, so I'd really rather this point isn't discussed too much, if possible.


Thank you Candidate...this is much appriciated....It has also helped in putting my major concern to rest....I have been very concerned about the promise of a lot more CQC, but it sounds like I may be able to really stealth my Shep up.....Thanks again Candidate.

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tomas2377 wrote...

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Shepard is back in the Alliance? I hope we can choose not to.


I was hoping the same. I wish we could be done with factions altogether.


This. 

Being forced into the alliance again. :(


You do know that the Alliance are the good guys, right?

I for one am very happy to be in the Alliance again.


Too many people like to scream "**** THE MAN!"  and chalk it up as some sort of iconoclastic GRIMDARK antihero.

I'm glad Shepard is officially Alliance again, and quite possibly officially a Spretre again as well.  We can finally start getting things done right.