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In his twitter, Casey Hudson speaks in Mordin's fashion. lol

P.S. To avoid such kind of threads, I suggest the devs add to the Codex clear statements - what kind of races can be gay and what can not.
For instance, I highly doubt there are gay salarians.

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I think my favourite part of these discussions is how it inevitably falls to "changing characters at this point is stupid, retconning and all that noise", whilst encouraging new s/s characters being added, alongside simultaneous complaints that doing just that in DA2 was "unrealistic".

Well, ok then.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

This thread is.... interesting, at least.

Also, AngelicMachinery, a friendly warning (I mean no offense):

Posting pictures like that can be seen as trying to bait people. Which equals a ban 'round these parts.


Eh it's not bro's kissing or nothing,  it's just Arl Howe playing dress up.  I'll stop though,  even though there is absolutely nothing offencive about the image. 

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jlb524 wrote...

Tali totally flirts with FemShep....


Indeed she does.  :)

The interactions Shepard has with Tali are the same regardless of gender up into the point you make a move in the engine room with male shep.  That line was simply cut for femshep.   However everything else between the two of them could certainly be interpreted as something more.   I think Tali is the most likely out of all characters to become a romance option for the same gender.  The pieces are already there and its something Bioware could easily do because its believable already in my eyes.  

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Luigitornado wrote...

There should be restrictions just like there have always been restrictions. The expierence is a guided one: us playing as Shepard in a world filled with exsisting characters who seem beilevable (science fiction aside).


There really haven't been restrictions on anything besides gender.

Just gender.

Not based on Shepard's morality, not based on Shepard's choices/beliefs, not based on how Shepard treated the potential LI previously, not based on race (cuz FemShep can bend male turians to her will).

Just gender.

Just gender.

Besides that, these romances are completely open to anyone who plays heterosexual characters.

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

This thread is.... interesting, at least.

Also, AngelicMachinery, a friendly warning (I mean no offense):

Posting pictures like that can be seen as trying to bait people. Which equals a ban 'round these parts.


Eh it's not bro's kissing or nothing,  it's just Arl Howe playing dress up.  I'll stop though,  even though there is absolutely nothing offencive about the image. 


Yeah, the moderators might not see it that way. Other than that, it was kinda funny.

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Oh boy here we go again, anyway to stay on topic here I could see Tali as an S/S romance. Unlike Jack she never states that she is unattracted to women and like a lot of people said she does kinda flirt with shepard regardless of gender. Of course I really don't care whether she is or isn't bi as I'm more concerned with the more important things in ME3 like the story, level progression, etc.

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Blooddrunk1004 wrote...
Pretty much almost every charachter in Dragon Age 2.


Did you even play that game, or are you repeating stuff you heard?

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Luigitornado wrote...

Kachie wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

I thought ME was about players playing the role of Shepard, not fanboys choosing the sexual orientation of other characters. Please no.


They've already let them choose who's possibly interested in Shepard *coughs* Tali and Garrus *coughs*


Yeah and they also chose who you can't have a relationship with: Wrex, Grunt, Legion, Samara, Mordin, Kasumi, and Zaeed. 

Hey, Bioware, when I talk to EDI I sense a lot of sexual tension. Let her be a romanacable option....PLEASE?!?!?! 


-sighs- I repeat, nothing intellegent to say?


It would be simply sloppy story telling to make everyone bisexual just for the sake of pleasing a few fans, so they can get it on with their favourite character with their preferred gender.

There should be restrictions just like there have always been restrictions. The expierence is a guided one: us playing as Shepard in a world filled with exsisting characters who seem beilevable (science fiction aside).

I can't believe I need to argue belivabilty in a video game, but making everyone bisexual is just no believable. Sorry.

It would be cool to add a new character as bisexual, or making 1 existing character as bisexual, but anything other than that is just overkill. 

Hell, what is more believable than coming on to someone; with the end result of them shutting you down? I can already happen in ME2, and it should stay like that. It makes for a more reaslistic romancable atmosphere. 

And enough already with this stupid chatter  of "She might have been scared to come on to Shepard at the time," or "not everyone is aware of their sexuality all the time and it can change because of self discovery." Yeah we get it; no one is disupting that.





Now that is more intellegable.

Though I have one issue... What is it you are debating on now?

Is it you don't wish for Tali to be bisexual, or you don't care?

Saying something like adding a new character that's bisexual is one thing, and would be an interesting idea, especially since most people have established relationships with another character already. (For example, some people are still devoted to say Liara, Kaiden, or Ashley), or in the second game have made a new relationship with one of the new characters, OR an existing one that had opened up in that game (Garrus and Tali).

Saying maybe making 1 existing character bisexual would be ok, means arguing against the chance of having Tali an available romance option in ME3 for Femsheps would be futile and a waste of your own breath. Maybe even slightly hypcritical (maybe).

I'm not saying make the whole damn crew bisexual, no no... and I'd agree in part with it's unbelievable, but at the same time so is flying around space in a ship, with an alien crew, and a race completely compiled of one gender, but can procreate with any other species of any gender... But I'm not about to complain because I love the lore, and the alien cultures they came up with (I did not just get an N7 tattoo yesterday because I find the entire game's lore and what not unbelievable or even believable).

It just so happens some people believe Tali has made a few hints at liking fem!Shep would love to play that out over others.

Just because the options are there, doesn't mean it's being forced down your throat, or that you have to use those options. It's simply an open option for people who aren't all straight males, or females. It'd be there to make the other gamers who happen to be bisexual or even gay feel more comfortable and they can enjoy the game on a different level.

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jlb524 wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...
Pretty much almost every charachter in Dragon Age 2.


Did you even play that game, or are you repeating stuff you heard?


You know the answer to that already jilb. 

Touch me touch me. 

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And I doubt Tali is lesbian lol. That would be so embarassing. Lesbians don't act the way Kelly told you Tali did. When a male Shepard had been entering a room, Tali started acting like a woman who tries to get the attention of a man.

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Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Simple solution:
1. Don't turn any old charachters into bi, so fans can stop worrying.
2. Make only new charachters bi (not all, just 1 maybe)
3. We already have enough bi people in Mass Effect anyway (Liara, Samara, Kelly, Shiala) and i also heard Kaidan will probably be bi aswell.



Kaidan is gonna be bi he seemed pretty straight to me in ME1, mean he liked this girl Rahna ( i think her name was) at BAaT training, and he even finds Liara attractive. Image IPB

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I found something funny that fits this topic.

ok.ya1.ru/uploads/posts/2010-02/1266755703_248.jpeg

Okay, back on topic.

Modifié par andy69156915, 09 juillet 2011 - 07:22 .


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FERMi27 wrote...

Lesbians don't act the way Kelly told you Tali did. When a male Shepard had been entering a room, Tali started acting like a woman who tries to get the attention of a man.


Incredible. Truely, utterly incredible. I am in awe.

Modifié par bleetman, 09 juillet 2011 - 07:29 .


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FERMi27 wrote...

And I doubt Tali is lesbian lol. That would be so embarassing. Lesbians don't act the way Kelly told you Tali did. When a male Shepard had been entering a room, Tali started acting like a woman who tries to get the attention of a man.

 

Please stop using the terms lesbian and bisexual interchangeably. They're not. 

Riiiight. Tali actually did *not* act like a woman trying to get his attention according to Kelly she watched him and turned to him when he was in a room. (which was alreadystupid beyond measure,her trying to get his attention would've made it dumber). As for FemShep Kelly doesn't tell Shepard the same thing but that could be for plenty of reasons. 

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andy69156915 wrote...

I found something funny that fits this topic.

http://ok.ya1.ru/upl...755703_248.jpeg

Okay, back on topic.

I like Tali's ass. It makes me wanna hit her.

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I think Tali could be a bi squadmate in ME3. There is precedent for it as she said she would link suits w/ femshep. Whether she will or not, remains to be seen.

1.Zaeed: So, did ya hear about what Shepard did to Kal Reegar?
2.Jacob: No. What happened?
3.Zaeed: She and Tali linked suits. Kal got jealous and confronted Shepard about it and then she proceeded to beat the hell out of him.
4.Jacob: A little extreme, but still, if you’re going to play with fire.
5.Zaeed: What do you mean?
6.Jacob: Shepard should have known how Kal felt and therefore shouldn’t have linked suits with Tali.
7.Zaeed: Linking suits is about trust. Nothing else.
8.Jacob: I don't know. It's pretty intimate. I’m not saying Shepard went “planet scanning” with Tali or anything, but linking suits is definitely in the same ballpark.
9.Zaeed: Whoa there just a goddamn minute. Linking suits and “planet scanning” as you call it isn’t in the same ballpark. It’s not the same league. Hell, it’s not even the same goddamn sport!
10.Jacob: Then let me ask you this. Would you ever link suits with another guy?
11.Zaeed: ****** off!
12.Jacob: Come on, Zaeed, I trust you. I think we could be friends. Let’s link suits together.
13.Zaeed: Go to hell!

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JamieCOTC wrote...

I think Tali could be a bi squadmate in ME3. There is precedent for it as she said she would link suits w/ femshep. Whether she will or not, remains to be seen.

1.Zaeed: So, did ya hear about what Shepard did to Kal Reegar?
2.Jacob: No. What happened?
3.Zaeed: She and Tali linked suits. Kal got jealous and confronted Shepard about it and then she proceeded to beat the hell out of him.
4.Jacob: A little extreme, but still, if you’re going to play with fire.
5.Zaeed: What do you mean?
6.Jacob: Shepard should have known how Kal felt and therefore shouldn’t have linked suits with Tali.
7.Zaeed: Linking suits is about trust. Nothing else.
8.Jacob: I don't know. It's pretty intimate. I’m not saying Shepard went “planet scanning” with Tali or anything, but linking suits is definitely in the same ballpark.
9.Zaeed: Whoa there just a goddamn minute. Linking suits and “planet scanning” as you call it isn’t in the same ballpark. It’s not the same league. Hell, it’s not even the same goddamn sport!
10.Jacob: Then let me ask you this. Would you ever link suits with another guy?
11.Zaeed: ****** off!
12.Jacob: Come on, Zaeed, I trust you. I think we could be friends. Let’s link suits together.
13.Zaeed: Go to hell!


LMAO

Omg I love it!

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FYI: Linking suits is not for only sexual activities. It is for family, friends AND lovers, so that they can be able to spend time together without the suits on.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

FYI: Linking suits is not for only sexual activities. It is for family, friends AND lovers, so that they can be able to spend time together without the suits on.


Doesn't really seem like Tali considers it for family and friends, seeing as she's NEVER done it before.  Which point in fact is hilarious but,  of course,  it does play up to the virgin fantasy and allow Shepard to take the virginity of two different alien babes.

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Kachie wrote...

:wub:

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...

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Oh boy, I hope not. I think not everyone should be bi/******, some should be but ,at the same time, some should be straight.

Plus Tali has never shown any sign of liking FemShep in ME2 but with MaleShep she reacts differently.


Wrong I think Tali showed many interest in FemShep in ME 2, and we all knew she was suppose to be BI because all the game guide said that Tali and Garrus where romanceable by anyone.  They just chicken out at last minute.

I want to romance Tali with FemShep in ME 3 :)


lol Tali would be my second choice for a romance option in the ME series (if it were available in ME2) but I've romanced Liara for so long I just like her better. But Tali is so cute and I wanna cuddle her too.. o_O I may have to create a seperate fem!Shep to romance her in ME3 just for kicks


Yes, you should !  I already made many play throught of the game to explore almost every possibilities.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

FYI: Linking suits is not for only sexual activities. It is for family, friends AND lovers, so that they can be able to spend time together without the suits on.


LOL, yeah...someone needs to tell FemShep that.

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Kachie wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

Kachie wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

I thought ME was about players playing the role of Shepard, not fanboys choosing the sexual orientation of other characters. Please no.


They've already let them choose who's possibly interested in Shepard *coughs* Tali and Garrus *coughs*


Yeah and they also chose who you can't have a relationship with: Wrex, Grunt, Legion, Samara, Mordin, Kasumi, and Zaeed. 

Hey, Bioware, when I talk to EDI I sense a lot of sexual tension. Let her be a romanacable option....PLEASE?!?!?! 


-sighs- I repeat, nothing intellegent to say?


It would be simply sloppy story telling to make everyone bisexual just for the sake of pleasing a few fans, so they can get it on with their favourite character with their preferred gender.

There should be restrictions just like there have always been restrictions. The expierence is a guided one: us playing as Shepard in a world filled with exsisting characters who seem beilevable (science fiction aside).

I can't believe I need to argue belivabilty in a video game, but making everyone bisexual is just no believable. Sorry.

It would be cool to add a new character as bisexual, or making 1 existing character as bisexual, but anything other than that is just overkill. 

Hell, what is more believable than coming on to someone; with the end result of them shutting you down? I can already happen in ME2, and it should stay like that. It makes for a more reaslistic romancable atmosphere. 

And enough already with this stupid chatter  of "She might have been scared to come on to Shepard at the time," or "not everyone is aware of their sexuality all the time and it can change because of self discovery." Yeah we get it; no one is disupting that.





Now that is more intellegable.

Though I have one issue... What is it you are debating on now?

Is it you don't wish for Tali to be bisexual, or you don't care?

Saying something like adding a new character that's bisexual is one thing, and would be an interesting idea, especially since most people have established relationships with another character already. (For example, some people are still devoted to say Liara, Kaiden, or Ashley), or in the second game have made a new relationship with one of the new characters, OR an existing one that had opened up in that game (Garrus and Tali).

Saying maybe making 1 existing character bisexual would be ok, means arguing against the chance of having Tali an available romance option in ME3 for Femsheps would be futile and a waste of your own breath. Maybe even slightly hypcritical (maybe).

I'm not saying make the whole damn crew bisexual, no no... and I'd agree in part with it's unbelievable, but at the same time so is flying around space in a ship, with an alien crew, and a race completely compiled of one gender, but can procreate with any other species of any gender... But I'm not about to complain because I love the lore, and the alien cultures they came up with (I did not just get an N7 tattoo yesterday because I find the entire game's lore and what not unbelievable or even believable).

It just so happens some people believe Tali has made a few hints at liking fem!Shep would love to play that out over others.

Just because the options are there, doesn't mean it's being forced down your throat, or that you have to use those options. It's simply an open option for people who aren't all straight males, or females. It'd be there to make the other gamers who happen to be bisexual or even gay feel more comfortable and they can enjoy the game on a different level.

It will be forced down my throat if it turns out that Bioware deicded to pander to every fan and make everyone bisexual. 

"Just ignore it." Some people, like myself, have a hard time ignoring stupid decisions.

I really don't care if there are a few bisexual crewmates: Be it a new character or an exsisting one. I'd just like to see Bioware to make smart executive decisions -- fans don't always know what is best...and I guess that woud include me x_x

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

FYI: Linking suits is not for only sexual activities. It is for family, friends AND lovers, so that they can be able to spend time together without the suits on.



Indeed your right, it is.


But she was totally blushing under that mask though thinking about it with femshep.  Quality time with a friend indeed ^_^  :whistle:  :happy:

http://www.youtube.c...2McyKWc#t=2m50s