KawaiiKatie wrote...
Kachie wrote...
O.o he wishes
(he was also being sarcastic)
Liara. Liara will always be my main choice if not THE choice for romances.
ReconTeam wrote...
I didn't release there was some sort of quota now. From an audience standpoint the F/F option with Liara makes sense because guys find that hot too.
KawaiiKatie wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
Lesbians and bi girls do it together only to arouse the straight male who will then join them. It's a very tricky way to lure the man they're attracted to into bed!
Modifié par bobobo878, 09 juillet 2011 - 08:03 .
AngelicMachinery wrote...
So, this essentially comes down to only what a sub group of heterosexuals want in their games? I'm so glad to know that the world revolves around the straight male.
Kachie wrote...
nhsk wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
You don't get it at all lol. Tali is established to like opposite gender. That much we know. If she was 'turned gay', it would mean her attraction to opposite gender would've been contradicted, overwritten and retconned with an exclusive attraction to the same gender.
Only this way there would be any implication being gay is a 'choice' as she was turned from straight/bi into gay = exclusively attracted to females. However, she was not at any point established to dislike the same gender. Lack of option to pursue a romance is not an evidence of her attractions (and if you think it is, then she shouldn't be possible to romance by Shep of EITHER gender since there wasn't an option to romance her in ME1).
If Tali is available for s/s romance in ME3 (means she's bisexual means bisexual people like BOTH men and women), it does not contradict anything established previously and there's no change in her sexual orientation because you can't change something that wasn't established in the first place.
Had she declared her dislike of the same-gender, then there would be a change. Since she didn't say anything about it, it's a blank slate and she could've been bisexual all along. That's just how it is. Personal assumptions about a character's sexuality are not part of canon. Some assumed Tali was asexual in ME1, it didn't matter. It was just an interpretation.
More paragraphs please next time
And skip the explaining about what a bisexual vs. a gay is, I know if you didn't notice the irony. But I see your point about missing romance pursue attempts, I hadn't thought of that I must admit.
I just look into recent games, notably DA2 who turned a person clearly not attracted to men into a bisexual, namely Anders, and made everyone who was romancable bisexual. Which I personally still think is wrong (not bisexuality, but that everyone was).
But I see my fears apparently have been laid to rest as Casey H apparently said people wouldn't be retconned into liking their gender, I could have seen f.example Jack being turned bisexual from the DA2 treatment, which WOULD have been a major flaw. Now I have some faith that she won't, she stated she wasn't attracted to girls in ME2.
And my argument was not against Tali in particular, but the fear of the DA2 treatment in general.
I'm all for trying, but if everyone says "yes"... well... nerd rage from my part
Actually, in DA2 Anders, if you take the right conversation path, say he and his friend (the one turned tranquil and you had to kill in the Chantry) that they were lovers. So he was clearly bi from the get go
Guest_Nyoka_*
Modifié par Nyoka, 09 juillet 2011 - 08:05 .
bobobo878 wrote...
I support this, I feel that Jennifer Hale is better suited than Mark Meer to express Commander Shepard's horror when Tali turns out to be an arachnid based gestalt.
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ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
So, this essentially comes down to only what a sub group of heterosexuals want in their games? I'm so glad to know that the world revolves around the straight male.
Why yes, the romances, which are a minor feature of the game, should be designed with a majority of male and female players in mind. Not everybody is owed something suited to their personal tastes.
I'm am calm. I never stopped being calmAngelicMachinery wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
It will be forced down my throat if it turns out that Bioware deicded to pander to every fan and make everyone bisexual.
"Just ignore it." Some people, like myself, have a hard time ignoring stupid decisions.
I really don't care if there are a few bisexual crewmates: Be it a new character or an exsisting one. I'd just like to see Bioware to make smart executive decisions -- fans don't always know what is best...and I guess that woud include me x_x
It's already been confirmed that not everyone is going to be bi, take a deep breath.
Stop trying to Pargon me.
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Modifié par The Big Bad Wolf, 09 juillet 2011 - 08:07 .
Luigitornado wrote...
I'm am calm. I never stopped being calmAngelicMachinery wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
It will be forced down my throat if it turns out that Bioware deicded to pander to every fan and make everyone bisexual.
"Just ignore it." Some people, like myself, have a hard time ignoring stupid decisions.
I really don't care if there are a few bisexual crewmates: Be it a new character or an exsisting one. I'd just like to see Bioware to make smart executive decisions -- fans don't always know what is best...and I guess that woud include me x_x
It's already been confirmed that not everyone is going to be bi, take a deep breath.
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
This thread is getting a little lulzy.
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
AngelicMachinery wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
So, this essentially comes down to only what a sub group of heterosexuals want in their games? I'm so glad to know that the world revolves around the straight male.
Why yes, the romances, which are a minor feature of the game, should be designed with a majority of male and female players in mind. Not everybody is owed something suited to their personal tastes.
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
I'm am calm. I never stopped being calmAngelicMachinery wrote...
Luigitornado wrote...
It will be forced down my throat if it turns out that Bioware deicded to pander to every fan and make everyone bisexual.
"Just ignore it." Some people, like myself, have a hard time ignoring stupid decisions.
I really don't care if there are a few bisexual crewmates: Be it a new character or an exsisting one. I'd just like to see Bioware to make smart executive decisions -- fans don't always know what is best...and I guess that woud include me x_x
It's already been confirmed that not everyone is going to be bi, take a deep breath.
It's hard for me to choose red text sometimes, I'm sorry.
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
You're off quite a bit on the age but I'm one of those mean Republicans not handing those Democrats one-party rule.
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
So, this essentially comes down to only what a sub group of heterosexuals want in their games? I'm so glad to know that the world revolves around the straight male.
Why yes, the romances, which are a minor feature of the game, should be designed with a majority of male and female players in mind. Not everybody is owed something suited to their personal tastes.
I use to be a democrat... then they wrote S. 978 <_<Kachie wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
You're off quite a bit on the age but I'm one of those mean Republicans not handing those Democrats one-party rule.
I use to be republican... then I came out of the closet -shot-
Exactly my point. She never continues after that with female Shepard. As far as I can see, and I've said it before in almost every one of these threads that pop up out of no where, pre-existing characters should be left alone. I'm not sure about Kaidan or Ashley since there really isn't enough character development/background to those characters, but I honestly can't see it happening either. But for recurring characters, like both Tali and Garrus, they both had two years to stew on their feelings for Shepard, then the entirety of ME2. I don't see why either of those characters couldn't have done a romance with Shepard during ME2. But the S/S option wasn't and option. For whatever reason, they didn't include it.But that didnt stop her going for male Shep in ME2 on a suicide mission and being human.
My main point is "Why do these threads keep popping up, there's a dedicated one already."Though, I'm also not entirely sure what you're trying to say with your reply.
Rockworm503 wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
So, this essentially comes down to only what a sub group of heterosexuals want in their games? I'm so glad to know that the world revolves around the straight male.
Why yes, the romances, which are a minor feature of the game, should be designed with a majority of male and female players in mind. Not everybody is owed something suited to their personal tastes.
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
What does his age and political party have to do with being practical in thinking that a video game shouldn't have to cator to every single person's whim?
bobobo878 wrote...
I use to be a democrat... then they wrote S. 978 <_<Kachie wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Aww someones a 45 year old republican.
You're off quite a bit on the age but I'm one of those mean Republicans not handing those Democrats one-party rule.
I use to be republican... then I came out of the closet -shot-
Pups_of_war_76 wrote...
The problem with that attitude is that the precedent of inclusiveness has already been set.
Are gays somehow less deserving than people who wanted to romance gangly bird-monsters?
I think not.
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