After reading a couple of reviews i decided to buy all of the Baldur's Gate saga and play it through. I have but one question that keeps bothering me.
What is the best class for a beginner who wants to play through the whole saga?
Thank you for your time and effort to help.
Best class for a Beginner?
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Tear_Coast
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:00
Thailog
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Berserker, without a doubt.
You get to wear the best armor, attain grandmastery in your weapon of choice and receive a truckload of immunities while enraged. Doesn't get much easier than that.
You get to wear the best armor, attain grandmastery in your weapon of choice and receive a truckload of immunities while enraged. Doesn't get much easier than that.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:10
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You cant roll a berserker if you start in Baldurs Gate 1. I thought about rolling a pure mage but their survivability sounds poor.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:17
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How are these stats for a pure mage?
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 10
Constitution: 16
Intelligence: 18
Wisdom: 18
Charisma: 18
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 10
Constitution: 16
Intelligence: 18
Wisdom: 18
Charisma: 18
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:31
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Tear_Coast wrote...
You cant roll a berserker if you start in Baldurs Gate 1.
Take a plain fighter through BG1 and you'll get an option to turn him into a Berserker when you import him into BG2.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:37
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Thank you for your help. I will try that.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:41
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I forgot to mention, make sure that you don't pick one of the lawful alignments for your fighter in BG1.
You can't turn a lawful aligned fighter into a Berserker in BG2.
You can't turn a lawful aligned fighter into a Berserker in BG2.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 11:59
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Tear_Coast wrote...
How are these stats for a pure mage?
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 10
Constitution: 16
Intelligence: 18
Wisdom: 18
Charisma: 18
I would move at least 10 points from Wisdom and Charisma into Str and Dex. Str=10 allows you to carry around potions, spell books, a weapon or two, etc., without having to constantly shift part of your load to stronger members of your party. And when you occasionally find yourself in a tight corner, high Dex. gives you the vital ability to DUCK
! There are very few spells that require high Wisdom to work well and the game is lousy with potions that will temporarily make wis=18. And unless you plan to be a mage specializing in Enchantments, charisma is the most over rated of the 6 traits.Playing a mage in BG1 the first time thru is probably the most challenging occupation you could try, so not only study the spell manual, but also experiment with the different 1st and 2nd lev spells until you get a good feel for what best suits your playing style, Also surround your PC with plenty of NPC muscle and use a party movement formation that keeps the PC well protected. Another vital choice to consider for a mage is race. The "little guys" (gnome, halfling,etc) have signficantly better saves than the big folk, and that edge will help keep your PC alive when he/she is a feeble lev 1 or 2 beginner.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 04:01
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Ditto on what Morbidest said.
Any character of any class with STR and DEX that low is going to have a really hard time.
In game mechanics, DEX determines your final Armor class (AC). That AC number is arguably the most important number in the game. It governs the rate at which your character gets hit when under attack.
Getting a single point reduction in the AC number means that your character will be hit 5% less of the time. Two points means 10% fewer hits. The difference between AC 10 and AC 5 means getting hit a whopping 25% less of the time. Get that AC down to 0, and you are getting 50% fewer hits. (Slightly oversimplified math, I know. You can never reach no chance to be hit, so there are diminishing returns once you face higher THAC0S.)
With a DEX of 10, your base AC is 10, and they will hit you pretty much every time they attack you.
As for STR, you need to be able to carry at least a staff, a sling (or darts), a quiver full of bullets (or darts), wear a robe and bracers, and that's already getting you toward maximum weight with a STR of 5. And if you ever actually hit anything with that staff, there will be a damage penalty. You might as well try to tickle it. Get the STR to at least 10; 12 or more would be better.
Like Morbidest said, you don't need any CHA. That score is practically irrelevant to any character who doesn't need it to qualify for their class. You don't need WIS as a mage; there is one ninth level spell that needs it to work right, but you can do just fine without that particular spell, if indeed you ever get that high.
Any character of any class with STR and DEX that low is going to have a really hard time.
In game mechanics, DEX determines your final Armor class (AC). That AC number is arguably the most important number in the game. It governs the rate at which your character gets hit when under attack.
Getting a single point reduction in the AC number means that your character will be hit 5% less of the time. Two points means 10% fewer hits. The difference between AC 10 and AC 5 means getting hit a whopping 25% less of the time. Get that AC down to 0, and you are getting 50% fewer hits. (Slightly oversimplified math, I know. You can never reach no chance to be hit, so there are diminishing returns once you face higher THAC0S.)
With a DEX of 10, your base AC is 10, and they will hit you pretty much every time they attack you.
As for STR, you need to be able to carry at least a staff, a sling (or darts), a quiver full of bullets (or darts), wear a robe and bracers, and that's already getting you toward maximum weight with a STR of 5. And if you ever actually hit anything with that staff, there will be a damage penalty. You might as well try to tickle it. Get the STR to at least 10; 12 or more would be better.
Like Morbidest said, you don't need any CHA. That score is practically irrelevant to any character who doesn't need it to qualify for their class. You don't need WIS as a mage; there is one ninth level spell that needs it to work right, but you can do just fine without that particular spell, if indeed you ever get that high.
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 04:26
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What stats would you recommend for a pure Fighter?
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Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 04:44
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STR 18/**
CON 18
DEX 18
INT 18 (for illithids)
WIS 3
CHA 3
CON 18
DEX 18
INT 18 (for illithids)
WIS 3
CHA 3
#12
Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 07:45
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I'd recomend the fighter, easy to play and get the hang of. In BG2, the Beserker kit was and still is my favorite.
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Posté 11 juillet 2011 - 05:10
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I felt it very important that I respond to this thread...
Don't take anything I'm about to say as fact either...
In my honest opinion the best class is really the choice of the player. Determine what you enjoy playing as first and foremost.
For example I like single classes that can multi-task jobs. This generally translate to classes such as Druid, Cleric, and Bard for the most part.
As for learning the game and enjoying it I believe you can never go wrong with a cleric... Sure you may lack the skill selection a Fighter gets, but you gain the power of spellcasting without armor penalty. Most cleric spells are down right strong. Another advantage of cleric there no need to scribe or learn spells. Just pick the ones you want to use rest and viola spells ready to go. Most cleric spells are straight forward... Buff, Damage, Disable, or Heal. No hassle trying to prepare in advance for battles like a mage and bard.
Ultimately you have to decide what you enjoy playing.
Fighters and Rangers are simular in strategies... Rangers tend to lean toward dualwielding and archery vs Fighters who prefer Sword and Shield or Two-Handed weapons.
Druid and Clerics share simular spells with the later getting healing stuff and the former getting shapechanging abilities. Bother are supportive and necessary if you plan on successfully fighting later in games.
Mage and Bard share Arcane spellcasting... Mage being pure spellcasting and the bard being supportive role.
Thief are what they are.... Sneaking, lockpicking, trap disarming, etc... And potential backstabbing along the lines.
Paladins are cross bread of fighters and clerics. Strict alignment prevents personal choices when playing. Potentially one of the harder classes to master, but easy to play. Imagine yourself being a knight that can cast spells, thus you have a paladin.
I hope my incite helps with your choice... If you need further assistance there is always plenty of regulars to help out.
Don't take anything I'm about to say as fact either...
In my honest opinion the best class is really the choice of the player. Determine what you enjoy playing as first and foremost.
For example I like single classes that can multi-task jobs. This generally translate to classes such as Druid, Cleric, and Bard for the most part.
As for learning the game and enjoying it I believe you can never go wrong with a cleric... Sure you may lack the skill selection a Fighter gets, but you gain the power of spellcasting without armor penalty. Most cleric spells are down right strong. Another advantage of cleric there no need to scribe or learn spells. Just pick the ones you want to use rest and viola spells ready to go. Most cleric spells are straight forward... Buff, Damage, Disable, or Heal. No hassle trying to prepare in advance for battles like a mage and bard.
Ultimately you have to decide what you enjoy playing.
Fighters and Rangers are simular in strategies... Rangers tend to lean toward dualwielding and archery vs Fighters who prefer Sword and Shield or Two-Handed weapons.
Druid and Clerics share simular spells with the later getting healing stuff and the former getting shapechanging abilities. Bother are supportive and necessary if you plan on successfully fighting later in games.
Mage and Bard share Arcane spellcasting... Mage being pure spellcasting and the bard being supportive role.
Thief are what they are.... Sneaking, lockpicking, trap disarming, etc... And potential backstabbing along the lines.
Paladins are cross bread of fighters and clerics. Strict alignment prevents personal choices when playing. Potentially one of the harder classes to master, but easy to play. Imagine yourself being a knight that can cast spells, thus you have a paladin.
I hope my incite helps with your choice... If you need further assistance there is always plenty of regulars to help out.
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Posté 11 juillet 2011 - 06:15
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Just throwing in my 2p here, don't ignore stats that aren't directly 'useful' for your class, they do other -non combat- things that deserve consideration. Ignoring Strength, for example, will quickly become a pain in the arse when you find you can barely carry your own gear, and low Charisma (and Wisdom too, sometimes) will make dialogue harder (in the sense that you might not be able to get what you want out of conversations, convincing people to do things and such).
About choosing a class though, pretty much what Krazy Solo said, just pick whatever archetype you enjoy and you'll pick it up. First class I tried in BG was mage, it's always my first choice in games like this, and I ran into the world and promptly got my arse handed to me by some gibberlings. Embarrassing? Yes, but I enjoy playing I mage so I stuck at it and picked it up in the end. If I were playing a class with more low-level survivability (fighter, paladin, etc) I probably would've found the game easier to begin with, but I would've gotten bored eventually because that's not my style.
Ultimately, the game's doable with any class, it's just a matter of knowing how to play them, and you'll find it easier learning to play if it's an archetype you enjoy.
About choosing a class though, pretty much what Krazy Solo said, just pick whatever archetype you enjoy and you'll pick it up. First class I tried in BG was mage, it's always my first choice in games like this, and I ran into the world and promptly got my arse handed to me by some gibberlings. Embarrassing? Yes, but I enjoy playing I mage so I stuck at it and picked it up in the end. If I were playing a class with more low-level survivability (fighter, paladin, etc) I probably would've found the game easier to begin with, but I would've gotten bored eventually because that's not my style.
Ultimately, the game's doable with any class, it's just a matter of knowing how to play them, and you'll find it easier learning to play if it's an archetype you enjoy.
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Posté 11 juillet 2011 - 11:16
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I agree, for a first time player, a fighter would be easiest.
The thing is, assuming you will be picking up companions along the way (not soloing), you'll need to know how to use all the characters in the group. So, in that sense, all the characters in the group are YOU and you'll need to learn to play them and use them to the best of their ability. With that in mind, it is sometimes better to play a character that will be of best usefullness to the group rather than the easiest single character to play. Like Krazy Solo said a cleric could be a nice choice (or a ranger/cleric or fighter/cleric). The multi-class level ALOT slower in BG1.
The thing is, assuming you will be picking up companions along the way (not soloing), you'll need to know how to use all the characters in the group. So, in that sense, all the characters in the group are YOU and you'll need to learn to play them and use them to the best of their ability. With that in mind, it is sometimes better to play a character that will be of best usefullness to the group rather than the easiest single character to play. Like Krazy Solo said a cleric could be a nice choice (or a ranger/cleric or fighter/cleric). The multi-class level ALOT slower in BG1.
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Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 02:11
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"You cant roll a berserker if you start in Baldurs Gate 1. I thought about rolling a pure mage but their survivability sounds poor."
Baldurs Gate Trilogy enables you to play BG 1 using the BG 2 engine, does that enable you to use BG 2 kits and classes in BG 1?
Baldurs Gate Trilogy enables you to play BG 1 using the BG 2 engine, does that enable you to use BG 2 kits and classes in BG 1?
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Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 07:00
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Yes - either BGT or Tutu let you play BG1 with the BG2 engine (including the use of kits).
