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[bleetman]

If we engage him in any kind of standard I-shoot-at-you-whilst-you-shoot-at-me gunfight, the entire situation is already a failure.

I half expected him to turn out like Goto in KotOR2 or the like, in terms of the person we see not being him at all. But seeing as how the Shadow Broker turned out to be a space ogre, I imagine any kind of elaborate deception is off the table.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

 i'd rather join him in taking over the galaxy 

[cyclospdias]

I agree with most people here.TIM is neither a biotic nor a fighter,so having him magically obtain powers from indoctrination would be stupid and i dotn think he can pilot a mech.He is a the boss,not a soldier.Instead give us a good ,tough fight with kai Leng who will defend his boss with this life and then myabe have TIM fire once at Shepard with a pistol before he is disarmed
Then a cutscene should follow,in which TIM explains why he did all this and then you get to spare him or kill him.

Of course,he can lecture you to death...

Modifié par cyclospdias, 10 juillet 2011 - 10:12 .

[naledgeborn]

cyclospdias wrote...

I agree with most people here.TIM is neither a biotic nor a fighter,so having him magically obtain powers from indoctrination would be stupid and i dotn think he can pilot a mech.He is a the boss,not a soldier.Instead give us a good ,tough fight with kai Leng who will defend his boss with this life and then myabe have TIM fire once at Shepard with a pistol before he is disarmed
Then a cutscene should follow,in which TIM explains why he did all this and then you get to spare him or kill him.

TIM was a mercenary. He must of been a very good one if he was working for Alliance Generals. Just saying.

[Blastback]

I want to put a round in his lap (you know what I mean) and then throw him in an air lock and make him watch as I slowly open it.

Sole survior.

[gunswordfist]

I don't think TIMmy should fire back at all. It'll bounce off of Shepard's shield and tim would look like that idiot from Bringing Down The Sky. He should stay calm even through he knows Shepard is about to kill him. Have a talk to Shepard that goes into how TIM ticks and his goals and if Shep still kills him, TIM should give Shepard access to some resources to help humanity after he is dead. Oh and TIMmy should of course be smoking and drinking the whole time

[Seboist]

laecraft wrote...

When we finally face Harbinger in the final battle...

You do want to fight the Reapers, right? *hopelessly* RIGHT? Remember Reapers? Those mythical sentient warships allegedly destroying the Earth and the galaxy?

Why am I even trying. Forget the Reapers. It's TIM all the way.

TIM is so awesome that people forget about an impending galactic extinction.

[Dean_the_Young]

Before Shepard kills the Illusive Man, he or she will have to explain to a panoply of young alien children why 'Uncle Tim' has to be killed despite being such a nice man to them.

[cyclospdias]

naledgeborn wrote...

cyclospdias wrote...

I agree with most people here.TIM is neither a biotic nor a fighter,so having him magically obtain powers from indoctrination would be stupid and i dotn think he can pilot a mech.He is a the boss,not a soldier.Instead give us a good ,tough fight with kai Leng who will defend his boss with this life and then myabe have TIM fire once at Shepard with a pistol before he is disarmed
Then a cutscene should follow,in which TIM explains why he did all this and then you get to spare him or kill him.

TIM was a mercenary. He must of been a very good one if he was working for Alliance Generals. Just saying.

i know aht you mean but he WAS a mercenary.He WAS all those things.I dont know what indoctrination does to someone's fighting skills but a decade if sitting behind a desk,barking orders,drinking and smoking dont keep you ready for combat.The fact that TIM will be on a 1v1 against  a top tier,highly trained,armed and armored pissed off Shepard who has killed a REAPER doesnt help the odds.

TIM's security systems(and hopefully Kai Leng's boos fight)should be very hard to neutralise,since TIm would leave himself vulnerable but TIM is not a soldier anymore.He can get to talk to you and try to pursuade you but not fight you.

[Seboist]

laecraft wrote...

Seboist wrote...

laecraft wrote...

When we finally face Harbinger in the final battle...

You do want to fight the Reapers, right? *hopelessly* RIGHT? Remember Reapers? Those mythical sentient warships allegedly destroying the Earth and the galaxy?

Why am I even trying. Forget the Reapers. It's TIM all the way.

TIM is so awesome that people forget about an impending galactic extinction.

Oh, no kidding. It's some kind of a spell. They look into his eyes and forget EVERYTHING. Somewhere far away, in the system of Sol, the Reapers are harvesting humanity. The galaxy is falling apart around us. Husks are being made, the allies are being lost, organic life is being torn apart. But people want to fight no one but TIM. They can think of nothing but him. It's fascinating.

The hate for him is so over the top that it's hilarious.  He's the only character that recieves all those intricate murder and torture fantasies these people develop.

The only other people that get anywhere near that amount of hate are the Batarians and the Vorcha.

[Clover Rider]

Seboist wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Seboist wrote...

laecraft wrote...

When we finally face Harbinger in the final battle...

You do want to fight the Reapers, right? *hopelessly* RIGHT? Remember Reapers? Those mythical sentient warships allegedly destroying the Earth and the galaxy?

Why am I even trying. Forget the Reapers. It's TIM all the way.

TIM is so awesome that people forget about an impending galactic extinction.

Oh, no kidding. It's some kind of a spell. They look into his eyes and forget EVERYTHING. Somewhere far away, in the system of Sol, the Reapers are harvesting humanity. The galaxy is falling apart around us. Husks are being made, the allies are being lost, organic life is being torn apart. But people want to fight no one but TIM. They can think of nothing but him. It's fascinating.

The hate for him is so over the top that it's hilarious.  He's the only character that recieves all those intricate murder and torture fantasies these people develop.

The only other people that get anywhere near that amount of hate are the Batarians and the Vorcha.

Poor Batarians.

[Les_Carver]

When we finally reach TIM's hideout to take him out...

I'd like to have a choice to turn him into my ally again, to help him find redemption somehow instead of just killing him. Even when killing him is an acceptable choice for me, I hope there's a possibility to redeem him if you have certain requisites.

Modifié par Les_Carver, 11 juillet 2011 - 12:40 .

[Repearized Miranda]

^ Screw Morinth and her mind-****ing capabilities. You can't resist TIM's eyes, personality and demeanor. Only to put him on a silver platter later.

In all seriousness, he's the head-bastard. I doubt folks are ignoring the Reapers, but who's been jerking us around? Not the Council/Alliance, Cerberus, Harbinger or Sovereign. Like Shep says: " _______'s gonna find out what happens when you ****** me off!" Most of us can fill in that blank correctly!

Who says in boss battles: "I have a score to settle with his/her lackeys?" That sounds silly to me. Again, yeah, we'll handle the Reapers, but we won't disconnect TIM from them either. We'll just take care of him later!

[Xerxes52]

I'd like to see Shepard and Co. walk into TIM's office, and he's sitting in his chair, drinking his booze and smoking cigs like nothing is wrong. But the instant he opens his mouth to give Shep his "The Reason You Suck" speech, Shep gets a Paragon interrupt and he just shoots him in the throat and walks out while TIM's choking on his own blood (Renegade interrupt has Shep put a round in his groin instead). Cue a witty phrase by one of Shep's squadmates as they leave.

[Repearized Miranda]

Seboist wrote...

The hate for him is so over the top that it's hilarious.  He's the only character that recieves all those intricate murder and torture fantasies these people develop.

The only other people that get anywhere near that amount of hate are the Batarians and the Vorcha.

Well, given how he's portray in ME2, I think the hate is understandable. It's no different than the VSs' hate for Cerberus, but how each comes after Shepard because of it. isn't any less ridiculous. (Kaidan I can deal with. Ashley is another story)

For someone with that much "bravado," wouldn't you want to knock him down a few pegs?

For some, it isn't just "kiling him just to kill him." If that were the case, then such conjury would be OTT.

He jerked us around the whole game while blowing his head off is not necessary, we aren't going to invite him for tea and crumpets either.

[Les_Carver]

Repearized Miranda wrote...

He jerked us around the whole game while blowing his head off is not necessary, we aren't going to invite him for tea and crumpets either.

Yes and no, everyone here is talking in absolutes when we haven't seen the whole picture yet.

What I mean with this is is: Yes, the hate for TIM could be understandable, but there could be more about him that we don't know yet:

What if there's a way for you to "get TIM back to normal" and turn him into an ally again? What if his first contact with Reaper tech changed him ever since and all this Cerberus deal is a farse, part of a Reaper plan?

Whatever it might be, we don't know yet, where my point is going is, you may want to kill him because he's a villain figure, but if he turns out to be something else -like a victim villain figure-, you'd also like to have another choice to make him useful other than just throwing away an useful resource.

Ah whatever, it doesn't matters at this point anyway

[KamikazeShepard]

naledgeborn wrote...

... And after TIM is dead Shepard and Miranda will proceed to have sex on his desk with that color changing star in the background.

I like this idea very much. 

Also, I now agree with TIM not being a fighter or going into a mech suit or anything like that. Having the option to spare him or kill him would be a lot better. But how about a sidequest with some kind of Cerberus (the 3 headed one) boss as an easter egg? 

[Repearized Miranda]

Les_Carver wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

He jerked us around the whole game while blowing his head off is not necessary, we aren't going to invite him for tea and crumpets either.

Yes and no, everyone here is talking in absolutes when we haven't seen the whole picture yet.

What I mean with this is is: Yes, the hate for TIM could be understandable, but there could be more about him that we don't know yet:

What if there's a way for you to "get TIM back to normal" and turn him into an ally again? What if his first contact with Reaper tech changed him ever since and all this Cerberus deal is a farse, part of a Reaper plan?

Whatever it might be, we don't know yet, where my point is going is, you may want to kill him because he's a villain figure, but if he turns out to be something else -like a victim villain figure-, you'd also like to have another choice to make him useful other than just throwing away an useful resource.

Ah whatever, it doesn't matters at this point anyway

Essentially, you want Saren again (if BW has run out of ideas, but I doubt it).

The last part of that, is like the Collector Base which he argues for, ironically. Now, if they do that right to where it is different than Saren (though the comparison will still be made), disconnect him from the Reaper is not going to change who he is nor should it. "I was choking and nearly died. Thank you for doing the Heimlick Manevur. Dinner later?" That expectation is quite ridiculous; so much so, TIM would go "WTF?!!"

Of course, we don't know, but I don't think they'll script-the-flip with him given how they have built him up now. This is different than Cerberus who's been the bad guy since day one, so I don't get the fuss over the completely turn since there never was one.

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

It should just be that TIM and Shepard talk a bit, Shepard fights Kai Leng and wins. TIM tries to shoot Shepard with a pistol but he gets a knee in the gut and a gun pointed at his face, Renegade Shep kills him and Paragon Shep pistol whips him and leaves him for the Alliance.

[darthnick427]

No.....god no.....if you want to fight cerberus go play god of war. I personally like the bullet in the head idea as long as there's an awesome convo/cutscene

[Rez275]

I imagine TIM going down quietly and without a fight. He knows why you are there, and would not be stupid enough to try anything at that point. Just Shep and TIM, in that one room, exchanging silent stares as though trying to overpower eachother's will. A single exchange of words, and a single gunshot, and it is over. Neither one willing to compromise, both of them absolutely sure that what they are doing is right, both willing to die for what they believe in.

[MonkeyKaboom]

I don't even want to hear his voice. All that's going to be said should be said long before the confrontation. Walk in, put one between the eyes, walk out. On to bigger fish.

[chelseaisthepan]