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[SerWhat?]

I don't know about anybody else but I play female most of the time.  I understand that it is probably easier and quicker programming for female and male Shepard to have the same mannerisms etc. but it really gets on my nerves that she sits walks and dresses just like male Shep..  I can deal with the walk(it's a little more generic) but the way she sits and moves are much the same as male that its kind of jarring.  Also, I think it would have been nice in the Kasumi DLC if Shepard could have acted a little sexier and and seduced the bad guy to get what she needs.  Knock him out before anything happens(in the bedroom) then go look for the box.  He can then wake up and go after them. What does everyone else think?  Give her more femininity.  Save the world as a real woman not a male version of a woman...

[Luigitornado]

Agree with the first half.

Inb4 poop storm about the second half.

[KawaiiKatie]

I prefer my gender neutrality, thank you. For all we know, manShep is the one walking around like femShep. Nothing about how Shepard walks strikes me as particularly male or female.

....except for when femShep sits in that dress. THAT looks awkward.

Also keep in mind that when animators try to make the PC "walk" more feminine, we get the butt-waggling abomination that was LadyHawke. Seriously, it's just awful. Here I have this tanky-tank girl with armour six-inches thick and she's all, "Watch how hypnotic my hips are! See how FEMININE I am?"

Is that REALLY what you want for femShep? Her shaking her butt and gyrating her hips to appear more "feminine"?

No. Gender neutral animations, please and thank you.

[1136342t54_]

Like the poster above. I agree with the first half. The second half is a no no. That's Miranda's job.

Hell to be honest I would have liked the option for Miranda to accompany Shepard as a date. Miranda is more qualified for those jobs anyway.

[1136342t54_]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

I prefer my gender neutrality, thank you. For all we know, manShep is the one walking around like femShep. Nothing about how Shepard walks strikes me as particularly male or female.

....except for when femShep sits in that dress. THAT looks awkward.

Also keep in mind that when animators try to make the PC "walk" more feminine, we get the butt-waggling abomination that was LadyHawke. Seriously, it's just awful. Here I have this tanky-tank girl with armour six-inches thick and she's all, "Watch how hypnotic my hips are! See how FEMININE I am?"

Is that REALLY what you want for femShep? Her shaking her butt and gyrating her hips to appear more "feminine"?

No. Gender neutral animations, please and thank you.

To be honest I hated that on both Female and Male animations for ME2. It always looked like they were still in their armor the way they walked. It was annoying. Should've just stuck with ME1 for walking animation.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Yeah, agreeing with the other posters. My Shepard was out of that dress the moment the mission was over and never looked at it again and I wouldn't appreciate her using 'wiles' to get what she wants on any mission.

And I know I'm in the minority here, but I also prefer her crouching sit to the prim and proper thing she did at the end of LotSB.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 10 juillet 2011 - 08:27 .

[Ashrite]

KawaiiKatie wrote...


Is that REALLY what you want for femShep? Her shaking her butt and gyrating her hips to appear more "feminine"?

ermmm yes?

[mellifera]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

I prefer my gender neutrality, thank you. For all we know, manShep is the one walking around like femShep. Nothing about how Shepard walks strikes me as particularly male or female.

....except for when femShep sits in that dress. THAT looks awkward.

Also keep in mind that when animators try to make the PC "walk" more feminine, we get the butt-waggling abomination that was LadyHawke. Seriously, it's just awful. Here I have this tanky-tank girl with armour six-inches thick and she's all, "Watch how hypnotic my hips are! See how FEMININE I am?"

Is that REALLY what you want for femShep? Her shaking her butt and gyrating her hips to appear more "feminine"?

No. Gender neutral animations, please and thank you.

Seriously! When I played Lady Hawke I had to download a mod to give her the male animations. I hate all her unique animations, even her standing posture is awful. If it's Lady Hawke's limp-wristed, hip-slamming overly "sexy" animation set vs. having a generic or "masculine" animation set? Give me the generic one.

I think Shepard having the same animations across the board is fine, they just need to close femShep's legs when she's sitting in a dress (which I never have my Sheps in unless I have to), otherwise I personally think having the same sitting animation for both sexes is fine.

What we really need is a running/walking animation for both sexes where Shepard doesn't look like they have a stick up their bum and a broken neck.

Modifié par yukidama, 10 juillet 2011 - 08:36 .

[mineralica]

My only problem with femShep is clipping:
- with dress

-with railing at Garrus'es station when she tries to put elbow on it
-with helmets when using "large bun" hairstyle

About animations - joining to "wtf lady Hawke is doing?". Do not want for my krogan-headbutting Vanguard to walk like that

[upsettingshorts]

IMHO using the one outfit that is different from all the others - the dress - to demonstrate clipping as one of the biggest issues FemShep has isn't particularly compelling.

That isn't to deny that this isnt an issue, just that the dress is one outfit from DLC that doesn't have, you know, pants.

[bleetman]

Hands up if you modded that dress to use your usual casual attire look during the Kasumi mission?

.o/

[mineralica]

I know, that's just screenshot which strike my imagination by simultaneous action of very typical for woman pose and brilliant debugging the clipping issues for DLCs, so I just had it already uploaded

[PMC65]

I wish that they used Michelle Yeoh as their example of walking, sitting and movement. But I love the ballet turned martial artist combo - feminine yet deadly. I wish that my female Shepard displayed some hand-to-hand combat on occasion as well .. oh, well.

However, I realize that others want a butch Shepard, tomboy Shepard, cowgirl Shepard, etc. Like Baskin & Robbins .. too many flavors.

Michelle Yeoh example of sitting, walking & overall presentation.

[Captain Crash]

I did a big thread on this a few weeks ago.   Animations being the #1 point there.  I found theres quite a split between people wanting her to keep the set animations and those wanting something more feminine.   That doesnt necessarily mean more girly.  But I think there were some issues in several situations with femshep using maleshep rig.  Not just because of the dress either.


I think relaistically she will keep the animations maleshep has.  Simply because of time constraints and costs. However I do hope theres more polish.  The amount of extra clipping femshep had was fustrating in some situations because she occupies a smaller space then maleshep but uses the same rig. Thus things sometimes clipped or didnt look right.

[mineralica]

PMC65 wrote...

I wish that they used Michelle Yeoh as their example of walking, sitting and movement. But I love the ballet turned martial artist combo - feminine yet deadly. I wish that my female Shepard displayed some hand-to-hand combat on occasion as well .. oh, well.

However, I realize that others want a butch Shepard, tomboy Shepard, cowgirl Shepard, etc. Like Baskin & Robbins .. too many flavors.

Michelle Yeoh example of sitting, walking & overall presentation.

Completely support this
Edit: especially sitting with crossed legs

Modifié par mineralica, 10 juillet 2011 - 08:51 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

bleetman wrote...

Hands up if you modded that dress to use your usual casual attire look during the Kasumi mission?

.o/

I don't mind the dress for that specific mission, because the situation calls for it. Plus it's kind of funny because it's so very much not what my Shepard would wear. She's not super 'butch' either, she's just a professional. Wearing a black leather dress while in command doesn't really read 'professional' to me.

[ReallyRue]

I would hate a mission that involved Shepard using her "feminine wiles" to achieve her goal.

Edit: Funny no one ever argues for maleShep to have "masculine wiles".

Modifié par ReallyRue, 10 juillet 2011 - 08:54 .

[AngelicMachinery]

ReallyRue wrote...

I would hate a mission that involved Shepard using her "feminine wiles" to achieve her goal.

Funny how men never have to use "masculine wiles".

Men don't need wiles they just pose  a bit and women jump all over them.  Didn't you know?

[upsettingshorts]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Men don't need wiles they just pose  a bit and women jump all over them.  Didn't you know?

Nathaniel Howe knows.

/hero pose

[100k]

Luigitornado wrote...
Inb4 poop storm about the second half.

EVERYONE GET TO COVER!!! GET TO - ARRRG---------:o:o:o

[Tommy6860]

I guess if I found my femShep shaving her face in her quarters I would take notice, then I would think there was some hormonal imbalance when considering the gait of femshep's steps and movements. Other than that, I really never paid much attention to it really, she's a tough fighter who is more than feminine enough for me.

[Tommy6860]

mineralica wrote...

My only problem with femShep is clipping:
- with dress

-with railing at Garrus'es station when she tries to put elbow on it
-with helmets when using "large bun" hairstyle

About animations - joining to "wtf lady Hawke is doing?". Do not want for my krogan-headbutting Vanguard to walk like that

This picture seems to depict some extracurricular actvities going on, youu know with the facial expression and all.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 10 juillet 2011 - 09:47 .

[Sshodan]

Having a dress for femShep was fun, both because it was so uncharacteristic for her (I remember thinking "Shep in a dress... I'd pay to see that!" And guess what? I did
And because some game situations called for it - both the Kasumi DLC and the hunt for Morinth - it always bothered me that Seph couldn't really blend in with the club crowd before the dress showed up. Neither cerberus uniform, nor biotic outfit, dock worker getup or a her camos really sad "I'm just here to have a fun girl's night out in a posh club"
And I do hope that we'll get both some formal wear and a chance to use it in Mass Effect 3.
But at the same time I'm rather found of Shepard who is commander first, professional second and everything else after. She moves like someone who spend all her live in armor, magnetic boots and uniform, and it is as it should be.
In a perfect world there should be a check for what Shep is wearing, and some adjustment for the sitting animations in a dress if we get one, but that's about it for me.

[tobynator89]

I want to keep my masculine femshep thank you very much. Soldiers do not walk around in a dress and high heels, they'd get chewed out by the rest if they did.

Shepard is not a girly girl, end of story.

[Puzzlewell]

PMC65 wrote...

I wish that they used Michelle Yeoh as their example of walking, sitting and movement. But I love the ballet turned martial artist combo - feminine yet deadly. I wish that my female Shepard displayed some hand-to-hand combat on occasion as well .. oh, well.

However, I realize that others want a butch Shepard, tomboy Shepard, cowgirl Shepard, etc. Like Baskin & Robbins .. too many flavors.

Michelle Yeoh example of sitting, walking & overall presentation.

Michelle Yeoh is a perfect example for just about anything. I'm terribly biased on her though...