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A word of warning in advance: If I am right, then my theories below are spoilers for the upcoming DLC.

So, did anyone else notice the conductor has one blue and one red eye? Coupled with his function name, I assume he was responsible for channeling blood magic into lyrium, creating red lyrium in the process. When the magisters tried to physically enter the Fade, they had to unify the two realms (physical & spiritual) somehow - the conductor was their means.

And possibly, some ancestor of Hawke was involved as well - maybe he IS the conductor. This would mean that the blood of the Hawke lineage is the means to enter the Fade (involving lots of additional blood) physically. Highly interesting, if you ask me. But maybe I'm just way off the mark, who knows.

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I think he is one of the first dark-spawn one of the magisters who entered the fade. Most likely the dark spawn infection spread from those magisters. I'm sure most of them were kill outright but some survived like this one for example and they locked him up. I'm very interested in this new darkspawn I'm sure the DLC will uncover allot of lore and many many questions.

` Also do you remember in Golems of Amgarrak of whatever it was called the origins dlc, there was something like a blue fade and a red fade maybe it has something to do with that, it was also a tevinter/dwarven experimentation site.

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Davillo wrote...
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Also do you remember in Golems of Amgarrak of whatever it was called the origins dlc, there was something like a blue fade and a red fade maybe it has something to do with that, it was also a tevinter/dwarven experimentation site.

That is something worth considering. I thought they were 2 alternate dimensions or something, but maybe they are realted to "the Fade."

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Why does everyone keep saying "the Conductor"? Where does this come from?

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David Gaider wrote...

Why does everyone keep saying "the Conductor"? Where does this come from?


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Modifié par Wulfram, 12 juillet 2011 - 04:25 .


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Wulfram wrote...
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Ahhhhh.

I guess that makes sense. It's not his name, however.

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David Gaider wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
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Ahhhhh.

I guess that makes sense. It's not his name, however.


Corypheus, right?

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David Gaider wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
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Ahhhhh.

I guess that makes sense. It's not his name, however.


Corypheus, right?

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David Gaider wrote...

Ahhhhh.

I guess that makes sense. It's not his name, however.


Whew. I'm relieved. For the longest time I thought I was being horribly uncool and behind the times and had missed some sort of Official Dev Information on the antagonists in Legacy. Or I'm assuming he that he is one. Maybe we're being mislead and he's actually a very decent person who only wants to invite Hawke in for tea and cakes and show her his very impressive snow globe collection.

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Oh... I actually picked this up here I think... Well, nevertheless I'm curious regarding that particular case of heterochromia ;-)

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I personally would love to see an antagonist called the Conductor. But only if the Conductor in question was leading a symphony of Darkspawn musicians, which Hawke could only beat in a rhythm game.

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Oh, so maybe it's what I was thinking when we first saw the achievements. I was wondering what Hawke would do to defeat an ancient evil that would qualify Hawke as a "Conductor."

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Ok, if the Conductor isn't Corypheus a lot of people are going to look silly. Can we at least confirm if they are or are not the same being?

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"The Conductor" does not even have to be a being. Perhaps ou can only defeat Corypheus by finding an ancient conductor (not the musical kind) which will somehow give Hawke the power to defeat Corypheus. Perhaps Hawke is the Conductor. There could be all kinds of different meanings to "The Conductor", people only attributed it to Corypheus because they were to hasty to check the facts.

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David Gaider wrote...

Why does everyone keep saying "the Conductor"? Where does this come from?



Because he is driving the fail train!  chew chew:wizard:

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

"The Conductor" does not even have to be a being. Perhaps ou can only defeat Corypheus by finding an ancient conductor (not the musical kind) which will somehow give Hawke the power to defeat Corypheus. Perhaps Hawke is the Conductor. There could be all kinds of different meanings to "The Conductor", people only attributed it to Corypheus because they were to hasty to check the facts.


Actually to be fair Corypheus in greek does translate to Conductor, so there is that.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

"The Conductor" does not even have to be a being. Perhaps ou can only defeat Corypheus by finding an ancient conductor (not the musical kind) which will somehow give Hawke the power to defeat Corypheus. Perhaps Hawke is the Conductor. There could be all kinds of different meanings to "The Conductor", people only attributed it to Corypheus because they were to hasty to check the facts.


Based on the video I would have to guess Hawke's "key" weapon is in fact the conductor, absorbing the power of each seal through one of the pillars.

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Quoted from the trailer: "If I cannot leave with you, I will leave through you." said by the darkspawn from what it seems.

A conductor can be anything something else will pass through. If you are zapped with electricity you are its conductor. I am inclined to think that the Conductor might be Hawke since the darkspawn wants to leave "through" you. I might be wrong but it is another explanation.

Modifié par Baiolit, 13 juillet 2011 - 03:37 .


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Baiolit wrote...

Quoted from the trailer: "If I cannot leave with you, I will leave through you." said by the darkspawn from what it seems.

A conductor can be anything something else will pass through. If you are zapped with electricity you are its conductor. I am inclined to think that the Conductor might be Hawke since the darkspawn wants to leave "through" you. I might be wrong but it is another explanation.


It does make perfect sense

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Macropodmum wrote...

Baiolit wrote...

Quoted from the trailer: "If I cannot leave with you, I will leave through you." said by the darkspawn from what it seems.

A conductor can be anything something else will pass through. If you are zapped with electricity you are its conductor. I am inclined to think that the Conductor might be Hawke since the darkspawn wants to leave "through" you. I might be wrong but it is another explanation.


It does make perfect sense


I think he means this literally, not figuratively.

By "through you" he means over your corpse.  It's probably what the character says prior to battle.

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Wulfram wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Why does everyone keep saying "the Conductor"? Where does this come from?


Achievements

http://social.biowar...index/7713779/1


Interesting, I figured it was just a play on "The Architect."  Still, I prefer the ME2's community's "Bob the Reaper" for the unnamed one.  That one still makes me chuckle.

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David Gaider wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
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Ahhhhh.

I guess that makes sense. It's not his name, however.



Can you tell us why the achievement is named The Conductor though? Unless it's spoiler-y. Then just use your evasive maneuvers.Posted Image

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Can you tell us why the achievement is named The Conductor though?


I'm not certain. I don't create achievements. Possibly it has to do with the definition of a corypheus ( "the conductor, chief, or leader of the dramatic chorus"). Possibly it's to let people go on about what a terrible name Conductor is, even though we've never said it's anyone's name. Possibly it's to drive fans crazy.

These all sound good to me. :)

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David Gaider wrote...

Can you tell us why the achievement is named The Conductor though?


I'm not certain. I don't create achievements. Possibly it has to do with the definition of a corypheus ( "the conductor, chief, or leader of the dramatic chorus"). Possibly it's to let people go on about what a terrible name Conductor is, even though we've never said it's anyone's name. Possibly it's to drive fans crazy.

These all sound good to me. :)


While you're answering questions here, I don't suppose you'd be willing to tell us whether that line we hear in the trailer is a mistake?  There's a bit where that darkspawn says he was imprisoned there 2,000 years ago.  But it's also said the Grey Wardens imprisoned him, and the history we've been given in-game says the Wardens were created (founded?) only half that time ago during the First Blight.  If it isn't a timeline boo-boo, a dialogue boo-boo, or just my ears being bad then the implication is... well, obvious.  I'm just scared we'll spend a lot of time theorycrafting only to find out it was nothing. :?

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Rifneno wrote...
 I'm just scared we'll spend a lot of time theorycrafting only to find out it was nothing. :?


You're trying to read too much into it. The explanation much simpler.