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Just because someone has a strong passionate opinion doesnt mean thier trolling.  That word is thrown around too loosely I find.


Anyway as said im against multiplayer.  If Bioware did two things to reassure me it will be different I may open my ears but those things need to be:

a) it wont take away from SP at all.  (Unlikely due to fact it takes up disk space at the very least) or damage its experience.
B) it isnt a reptitive mediocre clone of other first/third person shooters that can undoubtedly do it better then Bioware because they have years of practice. This is something new to Bioware and quite literally is an experiment.


So far nothing fans have suggested or from speculation leads me to believe multiplayer will be anything fun or interesting. Those last two words on point B are what make me most nervous!   Experimenting and testing multiplayer on the third game in a single player trilogy about Commander Shepard seems just insane to me.    Its almost certain you wont play Shepard in the multiplayer and now the Mass Effect trilogy will be about Shepard in SP and some other dude you can play in multiplayer...   


Multiplayer Im fine with going forward if Bioware want to try it as a new game in the franchise.  But as said above, last game in a trilogy based solely on one person....  Sorry not convinced at all  :unsure:



For the first: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll And yes, a lot of people however throw that term rather freely around.

Second, I agree with your perception.

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Honestly, I don't see a suggestion towards multiplayer there...like at all. As I understood Caseys tweet, BW might announce PLANS for a demo in a few months. That doesn't mean a demo will come out in a few months (thus there'd be multiplayer beta and stuff)...it means that in a few months they'd announce if there'll be a demo and what we could expect from it. Well, at least that's how I see it.

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Tell EA that. They only want as many people to buy the game.


I know that this is kind of becomming the new Godwin's law, but I have to say it: Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par Bad King, 11 juillet 2011 - 01:40 .


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It would be awesome if we got a Demo around this holiday season, honestly with how much time we have to wait we need something to hold us over untill March.

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Which part of "Mass Effect Trilogy is a single player experience" you don't get?

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Yup, Multiplayer discussion is offtopic as this is an ME3 forum. But I don't have time to sit in front of the computer all day and lock threads so I'm just going to leave this one.

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Eh. 3-player co-op might have worked ok.

But I don't believe the rumors.

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That's what everyone is scared of. It seems to be more then simple rumors since the devs became very dodgie recently. I hope they are....

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Eh. 3-player co-op might have worked ok.

But I don't believe the rumors.

if they do mp they could do what the swtor team is doing in their flashpoints, where each player picks a dialog line get # between 1-100 highest one get the line played but you still get lside points or d side points based on your choice (we would get para or renegade)

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The only problem I see is that MP is a console experience, not a practical PC one unless you make it online MP. In the end, PC players find themselves paying for a feature they won't use (again, it could be online like what Fable III tried, and failed, to accomplish).

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Sparrow Hawke wrote...

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I don't see how they could add multiplayer in ME3. The gameplay is not ideal for that and it would feel like weird add-on.


You mean the same gameplay mechanic that Gears of War has? The same game that has MP since the first game? Right.....


Yes right, because players spamming Adrenaline Rush, Charge, Cloak, Tech Armor etc. wouldn't be incredibly overpowered in multiplayer so to compromise we end up with a very watered down ME shooter experience where powers are near useless.

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Yeah. I personally don't know why people think that GoW mp works or is fun. Maybe game pad huggers do...

If they do proper co-op then that would be nice but death match and CTF is a no go in my opinion.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 11 juillet 2011 - 02:52 .


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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

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People should know better. You are all just fans. You don't know what's better for ME. Saying MP is bad and would ruin ME3 is ignorant and foolish. You're just a fan, what do you know. People in the internet think they have the experience of game developers when they really don't.


And being a fan is bad since when? Would you want us to not be fans? Do you want us to simply be customers, zombies to stroll through supermarkets and mindlessly grab some products?

Of course we are fans and of course we have opinions. And yes, I am with the majority in that I don't think ME3 could benefit from MP. Shepards trilogy is a single player adventure. There is simply no room for any multiplayer. Everything, from powers, armors, weapons, weapon addons, maps would require extensive editing to make it MP viable. All that is work best saved for later when it does not impede any work on the single player. MP in later franchise installations yes, I would like that. But emphasis on later.


And yes again, we are no developers, at least I am not and I guess the majority of other fans is neither. But does that invalidate our opinions?

And you are so much more qualified because?



I agree, if Bioware wants to a MP feature then make either a DLC/expansion to Mass Effect 3 and/or another Mass Effect game altogether.

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Here's the problem with a multiplayer demo and ME3.

Mass Effect is the story about Commander Shepard. I'm not playing unless I'm Commander Shepard, and making the choices. I'm not playing with anyone else that wants to be a renegade, and conversely, I'm not playing with anyone that wants to play paragon if I'm renegade.

If I'm Commander Shepard, then who the hell am I playing with? What are they contributing? Mass Effect is a single player story. YOUR story, of Commander Shepard. Why would you play as anything else in this series?

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Another rumor right? Please someone confirm whether or not MP is in ME3! It's better than having these threads pop up all the time...

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ThePwener wrote...

vader da slayer wrote...

I also think its funny how they think that a news release with demo information in it also somehow means there's multiplayer. where they hell they figure that I don't know cause they obviously aren't using logic or common sense.


hey got that idea BY using logic and common sense. They got the idea from this.

http://www.1up.com/n...-co-op-missions

Who's silly now eh?


still no logical way of connecting the two. 1 (the 1up and eurogamer and CVG articles) are pure speculation and rumors some of them made up and other are just reporting to generate site hits. 2 (the ops articles) are just statements of "news about plans for demos will be revealed in a few months" is a factual statement of news about a playable DEMO, most likely its just a "hey we will have a hands on demo at these conventions in teh future come try it out", and mentions nothing of mp or coop anywhere.

so explain to me how a tweet stating that there will be news regarding plans of a playable demo has absolutely any connection to multiplayer.

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Please don't.

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What the **** does a possible demo announcement have to do with multiplayer gameplay?

Answer: NOT A GODDAMN THING.

I don't know who's stupider. The websites that write this bull**** or the people who believe it.

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It does seem slightly crazy to throw in MP into a massive single player game. This trilogy is about Shepard and his/her story.

If it's more story based MP, like Star Wars TOR, say a maxium of 4 characters get together, and when having convo's each make a selection, but then 1 is randomly picked, that could be interesting. A horde type mode wouldn't be to bad, each pick a character who has certain ablilities and then having to work as a team would be alright.

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*facepalms*

I thought Hudson have repeatedly said there was NO MULTIPLAYER... What else do you want Bioware to do?

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Savber100 wrote...

*facepalms*

I thought Hudson have repeatedly said there was NO MULTIPLAYER... What else do you want Bioware to do?


*facepalms back at ya*

No he has NOT repeatedly said there is NO MULTIPLAYER.  He has however repeatedly side stepped the question and given vague non-commital replies when asked about Multiplayer.

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If the multiplayer would be some kind of Singleplayer co-op. I wouldn't mind seriously. Or a "terrorist hunt" style Mass Effect co-op mode, that would be good too. With... a good story ofcourse and some dialogue options.

But, I bet it will be PVP, like usual.

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ArcanistLibram wrote...

What the **** does a possible demo announcement have to do with multiplayer gameplay?

Answer: NOT A GODDAMN THING.

I don't know who's stupider. The websites that write this bull**** or the people who believe it.


Depending how you interpret Casey's twitter post, it seems that a ME3 demo could be released some time before the end of the year.  That would mean it would be released at least 3 months before the game comes out.  As a comparison, I think the DA2 demo came out less than a month before the main game.

Also, when it comes to games which are primarily SP/SP only, the aim of the demo is to raise awareness of the game before it is released.  Assuming the ME3 demo will be released 3+ months before the game, it seems an odd time to release it if it is supposed to part of their marketting.

So if they are releasing the demo that far in advance of the game coming out, what is the purpose of doing so?  A lot of AAA MP titles release MP Betas far in advance of the main games release to do testing.

If you consider all the above, it is possible that this early demo could be to test MP for ME3 and therefore ME3 will have MP.  Or it could be something else entirely and MP will never and was never going to be in ME3.
 

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this is great news that we might get to play the demo before the game is released

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Multiplayer in a series that focuses on SP never works good and is always very short-lived. Dead Space 2, Bioshock 2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and so on.... In a game that is RPG/TPS hybrid focusing on SP it will NEVER wok out.

Call me a pessimist, but I just know it.