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[mineralica]

[quote]Enigmatick wrote...

[quote]IsaacShep wrote...
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Most likely will depend on a character. With Kaidan, it will be Shep that will have to make the first move as Kaidan thinks Shep is straight so he won't start anything himself. Other characters could possibly come up with the 'offer' themselves, but we don't know yet. BW tried many different approaches in the past. DA2 is wiedly know, but in Jade Empire for example, you had to turn down both girls first and only then had a single dialogue option to start an s/s romance with Sky. And if you messed up a conversation right before, the option never even showed up so it was extremly easy to miss on the 1 chance to romance Sky.[/quote]

Man it has been too long sine I've played JE but now that I think about it I remember there being a guide on how to romance Sky on G4's old show "Cheat".
[/quote][/quote] I remember how friend told there was an option to have s/s romance with Sky and I replied that I had finished game for 3 times as romanceless male char already (can't stand both Silk Fox and Dawn Star) and hasn't seen this, hence, it doesn't exist. When we found similar "guide" I shut up - not only both female options should be turned down, but also it must be done before specific moment - entering the Lotuses' keep, if my memory serves well; plus, only one set of options during two dialogues with Sky should be picked - and as I recall, not the obvious "You. Me. Now" one.

[frostajulie]

IMO Kaiden has no right to say anything. He said his goodbyes and more. I dare him to say sh#$ to my shep I juast hope there is some option to punch him in the face either literally or verbally. He says he thinks cerberus may be brainwashing Shepard but he walks away then he calls her a traitor and emails her a snarky little message about a date he went on. Now we could all say its just bad writing and I would agree but it is what it is and so this is who Kaiden has become. Kaiden can suck it.

I think a drell flashback would rock especially with an I should go option from Shep.

[ladyvader]

I am looking forward to Ashley/Jack to be honest. That should be fun fun time.

[zukuto]

frostajulie wrote...

IMO Kaiden has no right to say anything. He said his goodbyes and more. I dare him to say sh#$ to my shep I juast hope there is some option to punch him in the face either literally or verbally. He says he thinks cerberus may be brainwashing Shepard but he walks away then he calls her a traitor and emails her a snarky little message about a date he went on. Now we could all say its just bad writing and I would agree but it is what it is and so this is who Kaiden has become. Kaiden can suck it.

I think a drell flashback would rock especially with an I should go option from Shep.

I second this motion! I understand Kaiden being upset in ME2, but he was WAY out of line with femshep. And that lame letter did NOT help his case. (At least Ashley really tries to apologies for getting so upset.)

Kaiden: "Why didn't you contact me!?"
Shepard: "Um...maybe because I've been dead? Is that a good enough excuse for ya?"

I don't even see how it can be considered "cheating" on Kaiden since he pretty much broke it off. Although I do look forward to seeing what happens in ME3 with any triangle involving him. Shep should definately have the option to tell him off though. 

[zukuto]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I'm just waiting for the incredibly awkward scene where Kaidan makes the mistake of mentioning Shepard, and Thane shifts into one of those perfect memory states spewing out explicit details of their romantic encounters....as Kaidan looks on in horror.

Make it happen Bioware! XD

[Alknost]

zukuto wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

IMO Kaiden has no right to say anything. He said his goodbyes and more. I dare him to say sh#$ to my shep I juast hope there is some option to punch him in the face either literally or verbally. He says he thinks cerberus may be brainwashing Shepard but he walks away then he calls her a traitor and emails her a snarky little message about a date he went on. Now we could all say its just bad writing and I would agree but it is what it is and so this is who Kaiden has become. Kaiden can suck it.

I think a drell flashback would rock especially with an I should go option from Shep.

I second this motion! I understand Kaiden being upset in ME2, but he was WAY out of line with femshep. And that lame letter did NOT help his case. (At least Ashley really tries to apologies for getting so upset.)

Kaiden: "Why didn't you contact me!?"
Shepard: "Um...maybe because I've been dead? Is that a good enough excuse for ya?"

I don't even see how it can be considered "cheating" on Kaiden since he pretty much broke it off. Although I do look forward to seeing what happens in ME3 with any triangle involving him. Shep should definately have the option to tell him off though. 

Well, men really don't tend to apoligise, which I imagine has something to do with why Kaidan's "apology" letter stinks on ice. Still, not good enough... As for Frostas suggestion on punching him, I have a slightly meaner idea: can I get a falcon groin punch for a renegade interrupt? Please? Is that too much to ask?

[shepskisaac]

zukuto wrote...
Kaiden: "Why didn't you contact me!?"
Shepard: "Um...maybe because I've been dead? Is that a good enough excuse for ya?"

No, he asks why didn't you contact him after you got resurrected. He says he's already heard rumors about you being alive. Shep's been wandering through the galaxy alive for some time already when he meets Kaidan on Horizon, you're surprised he's mad? What's the first thing YOU would do? Like call the one you love and make sure he knows that you're OK ASAP? Or not say a word knowing he/she will learn that you're alive sooner or later?

[zukuto]

Good point on the "apology" thing Alknost. I also don't think that renegade interupt is too much to ask for

Modifié par zukuto, 14 juillet 2011 - 01:07 .

[zukuto]

IsaacShep wrote...

zukuto wrote...
Kaiden: "Why didn't you contact me!?"
Shepard: "Um...maybe because I've been dead? Is that a good enough excuse for ya?"

No, he asks why didn't you contact him after you got resurrected. He says he's already heard rumors about you being alive. Shep's been wandering through the galaxy alive for some time already when he meets Kaidan on Horizon, you're surprised he's mad? What's the first thing YOU would do? Like call the one you love and make sure he knows that you're OK ASAP? Or not say a word knowing he/she will learn that you're alive sooner or later?

I apologies, you are correct in that point. However, femshep does have the option to ask about Kaiden a lot, and everyone refuses to tell her anything. If he had given her the chance, she might have been able to explain this, (I honestly think that it should have been a dialogue option). And although Kaiden frustrated me in ME2, I'm glad that Bioware played to his character. I do look forward to seeing how Kaidan in ME3. And I think that femshep should have a wide rang of response options from "It's alright, I understand your frustration came from your undying love for me." to *Falcon Punch in the groin!*

[Corephyfish]

horacethegrey wrote...

I'm more interested in the potential love triangle between Shep, Kaidan and Garrus. Garrus at least has some history with Kaidan, as they both worked together in ME1. Thane has never met Kaidan.

Still, I have a second playthrough with my FemShep where she romanced Thane, so I have a chance to see what happens regardless.

Techincally not true, you can choose not to recruit Garrus in ME1 and he still comes back as Archangel so Kaidan would never have known him.

[lietk12]

How long does Thane have until his final croak?

[CheeseEnchilada]

^^Well, depends on how long the trial is after Arrival. When you first recruit him, he says he's got about a year before he'll be affected and can't fight at Shepard's side. He'll probably go to a hospice at that point. We're not sure if/when that will happen in ME3, and then you get the mention of a treatment in there...

Basically, he should be showing some signs of advanced Kepral's during the game unless he gets treated. How bad it is depends on the timeline between ME2 and 3 and how long ME3 takes.

[Chun Hei]

Strange how many people think there will be a cat fight. The VS assumes it is over unless ME3 has a make up option. There may be an awkward moment but it should be over quickly. No one owes anyone anything.

If there is any real cheating it will be on the ME2 LI if Bioware allows it. Then there may be a fight if Shepard tries to have it both ways but then the two LIs should team up and kick his/her ass.

ME2 did such a bad job of having the LIs maintain their dignity by NOT having them fawn and obsess over Shepard so much that I am glad the VS and Liara were held back so they could survive for ME3. Bioware may have accidentally given them the independence and backbone the other LI do not have.

EDIT to help it make sense.

Modifié par Chun Hei, 14 juillet 2011 - 03:19 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

There's no problem in this triangle... Thane's on his way out so Kaiden can wait maybe 2-4 months after the game and then show back up.

Wow. That sounded pretty cold.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Edit: My bad!

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 14 juillet 2011 - 03:27 .

[Chun Hei]

I was not talking about flirting. I was talking about brown nosing. In ME1 Ashley and Kaidan would tell you what the did not like about what you did. In ME2 everyone kisses butt. Miranda gives advice you may not agree with and she sighs but after the mission she is always impressed and jealous because you are so awesome and she is such a poor little perfect girl.

[Pax of Doom]

marshalleck wrote...

FemShep is woman enough for both of them.

This. 

TeenZombie wrote...

The title of this thread makes it sound like Thane and Kaidan have something going on behind Shepard's back. Sexy.

 

[Pax of Doom]

Can't we all agree that Horizon was a misstep, a disservice to the VS, and bad writing? That it only served to cause alienation to the VS so you could be more open to the newer romances offered in ME2?

[GoG ToXiC]

Well, if there's ever an incident between Ashley and Tali, then my Shep will tell Ashley to go **** off. Problem solved.

[yoshibb]

It's a whole lot more complicated than "oh, you cheated on me. CATFIGHTZZ!!"

Shepard was dead for two years. Your relationship with whoever you were with was ended by death. There isn't really a set of boundaries you can go by if your partner gets revived. There's a number of facts to consider.

1) It's been like two months for Shepard. If the relationship in ME1 was any more then a fling, there would probably be lingering feelings there.
2) All the ME1 romances remained single, regardless of knowing that you were dead. You got into bed with someone new a few months later.
3) Do some of the ME2 romances even know about your relationship in ME1? How do they feel about possibly being a relationship with someone whose previous relationship was never officially over? Wouldn't they like to know that?
4) The ME1 romances probably understand that you may not have the same feelings for them. Especially after they left you to the Suicide Mission. That doesn't mean that they're gonna stop loving you.

It's a big open ended complicated mess of a relationship right now. I think it will be more behind the scenes drama more than anything else. Maybe a comment here and there about it. But if Shepard chooses to be with one over the other, I highly doubt that there's going to be a massive brawl.

Someone's gonna get hurt though. I think anyone you've had relationship with is going to believe they had something special. You know, with the whole on the brink of death, we've been through so much together, etc. So if you tell either one of them that they were essentially just some meaningless fling...

Wow, I think I'll just stick to romancing one person per Shepard for now.

Modifié par yoshibb, 14 juillet 2011 - 04:24 .

[dreamextractor]

yoshibb wrote...

It's a whole lot more complicated than "oh, you cheated on me. CATFIGHTZZ!!"

Shepard was dead for two years. Your relationship with whoever you were with was ended by death. There isn't really a set of boundaries you can go by if your partner gets revived. There's a number of facts to consider.

1) It's been like two months for Shepard. If the relationship in ME1 was any more then a fling, there would probably be lingering feelings there.
2) All the ME1 romances remained single, regardless of knowing that you were dead. You got into bed with someone new a few months later.
3) Do some of the ME2 romances even know about your relationship in ME1? How do they feel about possibly being a relationship with someone whose previous relationship was never officially over? Wouldn't they like to know that?
4) The ME1 romances probably understand that you may not have the same feelings for them. Especially after they left you to the Suicide Mission. That doesn't mean that they're gonna stop loving you.

It's a big open ended complicated mess of a relationship right now. I think it will be more behind the scenes drama more than anything else. Maybe a comment here and there about it. But if Shepard chooses to be with one over the other, I highly doubt that there's going to be a massive brawl.

Someone's gonna get hurt though. I think anyone you've had relationship with is going to believe they had something special. You know, with the whole on the brink of death, we've been through so much together, etc. So if you tell either one of them that they were essentially just some meaningless fling...

Wow, I think I'll just stick to romancing one person per Shepard for now.

I can kind of see Jack and Thane being hurt by that, maybe. What about Garrus or Tali, though? Wouldn't they have already known that Shepard was previously involved with Liara or the VS?

[yoshibb]

dreamextractor wrote...
I can kind of see Jack and Thane being hurt by that, maybe. What about Garrus or Tali, though? Wouldn't they have already known that Shepard was previously involved with Liara or the VS?

That's why I said some. I'm guessing Tali and Garrus already know. Although, I still think it's weird that they never actually bring it up. I'd think those two would be hurt the most by a potential breakup. They seem really enamored with Shepard.