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[Photobomb]

We don't know where and what the characters have been up to since the SM/LotSB/Arrival but what would you like some of them to be doing?

After the SM I can really see Garrus being put into place to be the leader of the Blue Suns. Having a mercenary army under Garrus (and therefore Sheppard's control) would be great for both the fight against the Reapers and teh clean up afterwards. Some quick bullet point why I think Garrus could be the leader;

* WIth Vido dead (assuming you kill him in Zaeed's loyalty mission) the only other figure head to remove is Solem  Del'Serah. That shouldn't be hard considering the crew working for you (e.g. Jack or Thane)

*Zaeed is the former founder and while he shows signs of wanting to retire (Shadow Broker dossier) I think he would be willing to take temporary control of the BS to help train/transistion leadership to Garrus.

*While Batarians are less than desirable under normal circumstances they will be motivated to take the fight to the Reapers for revenge.

*Garrus shows leadership and loyalty to Sheppard but he needs to strike out on his own and stop living in Shep's shadow. Not only will his leadership of the BS be critical during the War the Blue Suns will be needed post war for mobile mop up while most government forces deal with their own devastated territory. E.g. Blue Suns can move into Batarian space and clean the planets of Husks/Reaper tech/etc. That is a highly profitable business (see Blackwater in Iraq).

*With Liara as the new SB she can use her information and influence to help get and keep Garrus in charge of the Blue Suns and squash any potential rivals.

Thoughts?

Modifié par Photobomb, 11 juillet 2011 - 07:18 .

[Golden Owl]

The Blue Suns are a criminal band, bound up in a number of criminal activities....So i personally can't really see Garrus leading them....He does need a squad of his own, but I can't see it being the BS.

[AngelicMachinery]

Nope, it makes about as much sense as Grunt becoming the Krogan representative on the citadel.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Leading the Blue Suns would be much harder than a small squad. Not to mention they're a ruthless criminal organization that only seeks personal gain. People don't join mercenary groups to make a difference when they can do the same through legal militaries (or even organizations like Cerberus), they join to make money. Garrus isn't nearly selfish enough to head such a group, much less join them in the first place.

[ladyvader]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Nope, it makes about as much sense as Grunt becoming the Krogan representative on the citadel.

True and I agree.

Garrus would not take charge of a criminal merc group.

Do you really think the Blue Suns would follow Archangel?  Seriously?(to OP)

Modifié par ladyvader, 11 juillet 2011 - 08:10 .

[Slurms McKenzie]

Not likely my main man........although, it wouldn't hurt to have the Blue Suns on your side......

Good Luck and Stay Safe

[OSUP]

I don't think much time would have passed. I probably am wrong but isn't the time between Arrival and ME3 minimal?

[Photobomb]

1st, they're not a criminal organization they are a mercenary outfit that has smaller elements of its structure involved in crimianl activities. That is a big diference. Morever the BS less than savory element is directly related to Vido and his use of Batarians. With the elimination of that portion of the BS the organization as a whole can go back to what Zaeed founded it as; a disciplined, ruthless, professional mercenary army for hire.

I conceed the point about leading a squad vs leading an army but the basic principals are the same. Good leadership is good leadership. As for the logistical part of running a large organization that can be delegated or even run by VI.

Yes, people that join mercenary groups aren't patriotic but out to make money. And when can mercs make the most money? Galactic war. Look no further to the Iraq war for a good example. The US Army did not have enough manpower so they hired mercs for site, transportation, and civilian personal security. Do you not think that the Alliance will be so strapped personel and equipment wise that tey won't hand out huge contracts to mercs to help take back the Earth?

As to why would the BS follow Archangel, no one knows who Archangel is and furthermore the small group of BS that he did fight in Omega are not representative of the BS as a whole.

[WhiteKnyght]

The Blue Suns are contract killers, and I think drug smugglers. They run protection rackets on Omega and are willing to enslave people. Thats the definition of organized crime.

Only reason they are called Mercs is because they do jobs for hire. Which is the definition of that.

[ladyvader]

OSUP wrote...

I don't think much time would have passed. I probably am wrong but isn't the time between Arrival and ME3 minimal?

I could be wrong, but I say it is two months between Arrival and the beginning of ME3.  6-12 months after the SM. 

The timeline is just weird to me.  If the events of Arrival is set two months later, then why is it avaiable before the SM?  That just makes no sense to me. 

[Chewin]

ladyvader wrote...
I could be wrong, but I say it is two months between Arrival and the beginning of ME3.  6-12 months after the SM. 

The timeline is just weird to me.  If the events of Arrival is set two months later, then why is it avaiable before the SM?  That just makes no sense to me. 

It means that Arrival happened after the SM. That it's canon whether you played it before the SM.

Modifié par Chewin3, 11 juillet 2011 - 09:09 .

[pablodurando]

Vido himself wasn't the one true leader of the Blue Suns. Not many individuals involved in the organization actually know who Vido is. He gave power to commanders and ruled as an outside source. Zaeed also has no pull on the Blue Suns any more so it would be probable that the Blue Suns are in turmoil right now over leadership. Garrus has no chance of getting into a leadership position because he has no original ties to the organization. You still have Liara though as the Shadow Broker who can pretty much manipulate all the mercenary groups in the galaxy.

[tobynator89]

now why would he be in charge of a group that he spent a year killing members of out of his own sense of justice?

A human lead organization for that matter.

[Mims]

Pretty sure they want him dead. And visa versa.

*And, its likely only a matter of time before someone makes the connection between Garrus->Archangel. The Shadow Broker had it figured out.

Modifié par Mims, 11 juillet 2011 - 10:26 .

[Photobomb]

I've heard numbers in line with what ladyvader said. ME3 takes place 6-12 months after the SM and 2-4 months after Arrival.

[pablodurando]

Photobomb wrote...

I've heard numbers in line with what ladyvader said. ME3 takes place 6-12 months after the SM and 2-4 months after Arrival.

I believe it's 8 months after the SM, which means Thane should already be dead.

[Bugsie]

tobynator89 wrote...

now why would he be in charge of a group that he spent a year killing members of out of his own sense of justice?

A human lead organization for that matter.

The answer is simple - he wouldn't be in charge because it's likely that same sense of justice would stop him from working for a mercenary group like the Blue Suns in the first place.

It being a human organisation would have nothing to do with that choice.

[tobynator89]

Buggirl70 wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

now why would he be in charge of a group that he spent a year killing members of out of his own sense of justice?

A human lead organization for that matter.

The answer is simple - he wouldn't be in charge because it's likely that same sense of justice would stop him from working for a mercenary group like the Blue Suns in the first place.

It being a human organisation would have nothing to do with that choice.

I need to stop using rethorical questions.

[Bugsie]

tobynator89 wrote...
I need to stop using rethorical questions.

I was just bouncing off your rhetorical question to give my own answer to the OP.  Thankyou for being a springboard.

[tobynator89]

then don't phrase it as if you're answering me.

[Photobomb]

It's not a human organization. It's a human/turain organization that had Batarians added to it when Vido assumed control.

And I am suggesting Garrus take over an organization (with the SB and Zaeed's help) and repurpose it to relieve and assist Alliance forces which according to ME3 are destroyed or overwhelmed. The Blue Suns have the personnel, equipment, and logistical structure to fulfill that task.

Most of the regular soldiers won't care that they are helping Alliance/Citadel forces as long as the hefty paychecks clear their bank account.

[Bugsie]

tobynator89 wrote...

then don't phrase it as if you're answering me.

Wow, no need to get shirty.  Lighten up man.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 11 juillet 2011 - 11:11 .

[Sepewrath]

The same Blue Suns that was Garrus was killing for sport? Not to mention, he has no mind for making a business out of being a merc, he does what he thinks is right and that's not good for a mercenary organization. So basically he would be getting the Zaeed treatment, very soon. So cant say I see it happening either.

[Golden Owl]

I have a theory that Aria is influential enough with all the merc bands to be able to pull them into a cohesive fighting unit in ME3.

[LOLandStuff]

Under Garrus' leadership, the Blue Suns will help old ladies cross the street. Get your varren off a tree. Help carry your grocery and repair your cab.