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[Chromie]

Persephone wrote...

Hmmmmmmm.........pretty as it looks, I'd have liked to see some dialogue/story....

This is pretty? :sick:

[Wusword77]

Saintthanksgiving wrote...

If I have to hear someone say that they are proud of these guys for "not resting on their laurels" and bending ORIGINS over a pinball machine I am going to lose my lunch.

You trashed a game everybody liked and turned it into an epileptic's worst nightmare!

I'm glad they didn't bend DA:O over a pinball machine, I didn't like DA:O.  I'm glad for the change of direction as traditional CRPGs were never my favorite type of RPG.  I've played them, and I do enjoy Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2, but that doesn't mean I want a new game to come out 10 years later that makes me feel like I'm playing it again.

Just because Hawke jumps around and swings his sword fifty times does not make gameplay better,

Making combat not feel like it's from a decade old game is what I would call a gameplay improvement.

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

why not go play mortal combat?

It seems some people keep forgetting playing CRPG's like DA:O and BG are clearly evidence of a superior mind.  Shame on you Bioware, for not sticking to a tried and true design that appeals to the RPG elitest.  <_<

If you think redundant menu's, slow combat that you can pause to make it seem more "tactical", tedious inventory management , and non-combat skills that are only in the game to decrease your combat effectiveness are the hallmarks of a game that was built for more intelligent gamers you are sadly mistaken.  If you think those things are required for a game to be an RPG you're even more sadly mistaken.

[Persephone]

Ringo12 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Hmmmmmmm.........pretty as it looks, I'd have liked to see some dialogue/story....

This is pretty? :sick:

Yeah, IMO it is. So what?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ya know? Many think that Angelina Jolie is the most gorgeous gal out there. I think she is downright plain compared to Rita Hayworth. 

[Sutekh]

Persephone wrote...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ya know? Many think that Angelina Jolie is the most gorgeous gal out there. I think she is downright plain compared to Rita Hayworth. 

Everyone is downright plain compared to Rita Hayworth.

@Ringo12

I find it pretty too. But I'm not going to try to argue, because I have the feeling you just don't want to find anything positive about Legacy. Am I wrong? 

[Persephone]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I also kind had a "wtf?" moment when he said that BW got feedback praising/liking the new art design in DA2. Seriously?
People liked the ClownSpawn?
People enjoyed having super low res textures in the vanilla game?
People liked a UI that was minimalist to the point of missing out useful, perhaps even essential information?
People liked the over exagerrated Anime hairstyles that didn't fit the universe?
People liked the mounds of ugly useless outfits you find throughout the games?
People liked the ugly ugly ugly helmets and hoods?
Really Bioware? You expect us to buy such blatant PR speak?

Let's see....

I liked the DAII darkspawn. Finally no more orc ripoffs.

The High resolution patch was free and part of the game, so I saw no "super low res textures" in the game.

The UI could have been done with more care. But TW2 beats it when it comes to laziness and sloppiness. By a mile.

90% of the hairstyles were right out of DAO, the others weren't anime like at all. I should know, I love the old Anime series. From Attack Nr. 1 to Anime games.

The helmets can be toggled off and are right out of DAO. I liked the hoods a lot though.

Tastes differ, you know?

[Persephone]

Saintthanksgiving wrote...

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

Speak for yourself. 

It's disgusting comments like the above that make me despise the DA fanbase more and more. I cannot even visit the Loghain thread in the DAO forum anymore without encountering the vitriol, there is no way to escape this....drivel...on these forums. <_<

[TEWR]

Persephone wrote...

Let's see....

I liked the DAII darkspawn. Finally no more orc ripoffs.

I have to disagree on this one, at least as far as the Hurlock Grunts, Emissaries and Ogres go (Genlocks and Hurlock Alphas are awesome now ).


The Hurlocks didn't look anything LotR-ish in Origins, so their new appearance was not needed. The Ogres in DA2 suffer from two problems. A mushed up face (which can easily be addressed in DA3) and the skin tone. I feel that the Ogres should be entirely gray (like the Kossith are), or revert back to the original purple-ish colors.

the Emissaries I believe are only Hurlock Emissaries, and they have that constricting leather strap on their face that makes it impossible for me to take them seriously (in Origins Emissaries seemed to wear something more akin to a mask) and they have elf ears now.

But like I said, Genlocks and Hurlock Alphas are awesome now.

90% of the hairstyles were right out of DAO, the others weren't anime like at all. I should know, I love the old Anime series. From Attack Nr. 1 to Anime games.

Ooh a fellow anime fan! Yay!

[Morroian]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I also kind had a "wtf?" moment when he said that BW got feedback praising/liking the new art design in DA2. Seriously?
People liked the ClownSpawn?
People enjoyed having super low res textures in the vanilla game?
People liked a UI that was minimalist to the point of missing out useful, perhaps even essential information?
People liked the over exagerrated Anime hairstyles that didn't fit the universe?
People liked the mounds of ugly useless outfits you find throughout the games?
People liked the ugly ugly ugly helmets and hoods?

New Art design, yes I liked it including the darkspawn, they're different thats all. The DAO darkspawn are hardly some masterpiece of lovecraftian design.

Textures, wouldn't know I had the hi res texture pack installed all settings on high and the game looks fantastic, better than most I've played recently at the highest settings.

The UI was ugly but functional, just as functional as DAO I never felt there was missing info.

Hairstyles? Some I didn't like some I did just like DAO. 

Outfits you find, sure if I can't use them its more gold which is entirely the point.

Did you like the mage hats in DAO?

[Aeowyn]

Saintthanksgiving wrote...

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

why not go play mortal combat?

Please fill in the form and send it to someone who cares.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:37 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Saintthanksgiving wrote..
You trashed a game everybody liked and turned it into an epileptic's worst nightmare!

Just because Hawke jumps around and swings his sword fifty times does not make gameplay better,

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

why not go play mortal combat?

As a dude with a neurological disorder, as well as a friend to many with epilepsy, your insensitive comment (which I hope was written without thought) are horrifyingly over the line.

You think this bilge makes you sound serious?

[TEWR]

I'm surprised some people take issue with the fact that a 2h Hawke can swing his greatsword 50 times and not lose stamina, yet they fail to mention how Oghren and Sten could gain stamina from swinging their sword and landing a hit. Or was it from the kill? 


Oh wait, it's Origins. So it's okay.


I can understand disliking something, but failing to notice that was already present in the game prior is just idiotic.



Edit: someone reminded me of adrenaline and its effects.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 juillet 2011 - 11:43 .

[Firky]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Saintthanksgiving wrote..
You trashed a game everybody liked and turned it into an epileptic's worst nightmare!

Just because Hawke jumps around and swings his sword fifty times does not make gameplay better,

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

why not go play mortal combat?

As a dude with a neurological disorder, as well as a friend to many with epilepsy, your insensitive comment (which I hope was written without thought) are horrifyingly over the line.

You think this bilge makes you sound serious?

I think that kind of language makes people who use it sound immature and lacking in life experience. My cousin has epilepsy and it's not a fun condition.

(And, use of "retard" in any context. As well as "abortion of a game." - not this poster but I've seen it around.)

[Dhiro]

bigrdog101 wrote...

so.....our main weapon for this dlc will be a .....keyblade?? lol

Gimme my Oathkeeper and I can die happy.

Anyway, I liked the video.

[Corto81]

Persephone wrote...

Tastes differ, you know?

Absolutely.

But I know you also loved Witcher 2, and after playing that and coming back to DA2, I find DA2 environment to be so bland it really gets in the way of enjoying the game.

If feels like... You know when you're a kid and you draw your own comics.... (well, I did )
ANd you pay much attention to the characters... But you can't be arsed with the environment and you just doodle something in the background?

THAT's how DA2 feels after seeing how ridiculously detailed Witcher 2 is.

[Chromie]

Aeowyn wrote...

Saintthanksgiving wrote...

People were fighting because they thought DA2 "consolized" the series... but consoles had nothing to do with it, DA2 was designed for retards who enjoy exploding bodies and fifty hit combos...

why not go play mortal combat?

Please fill in the form and send it to someone who cares.

Saving that for future use..

Morroian wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...
People enjoyed having super low res textures in the vanilla game?

Textures, wouldn't know I had the hi res texture pack installed all settings on high and the game looks fantastic, better than most I've played recently at the highest settings.

What new games have you played recently...cause I can't think of anything that came out this year that is ugly as this game. Now if your comparing to games from a while ago that's different..and sad. At least Origins was a good game and I excused the graphics.

Modifié par Ringo12, 13 juillet 2011 - 09:52 .

[Jon Jern_]

This looks like an instance straight from WoW.

[Chromie]

Jon Jern wrote...

This looks like an instance straight from WoW.

Except with out the fun and social aspects.

[Jon Jern_]

Ringo12 wrote...

Jon Jern wrote...

This looks like an instance straight from WoW.

Except with out the fun and social aspects.

Player Merill has joined the group.
Player Varric has joined the group.
Player Anders has joined the group.
Player XXX_ChAmpIoN_oF_KiRKwALL_XXX has joined the group. 

Modifié par Jon Jern , 13 juillet 2011 - 10:03 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm surprised some people take issue with the fact that a 2h Hawke can swing his greatsword 50 times and not lose stamina, yet they fail to mention how Oghren and Sten could gain stamina from swinging their sword and landing a hit. Or was it from the kill? Either way, that's just as unrealistic if not moreso. You don't gain stamina from swinging something.

You, my friend, have obviously never encountered adrenaline. An adrenaline rush will push a man farther than he thought possible, and yes, this does happen in a warzone.

The whole theme of the Beserker is that they get a crazy ass rush when they start killing.

[Chiramu]

I want to see how it is, so I want to buy the DLC, but it's just not exciting at all :<.

I don't really care about the Grey Wardens, why can't we be involved in the world of Thedas? The Grey Wardens is a very small aspect of Thedas, and why does our Hawke have to be so interested in their past? What if we want to play out Hawke as someone who looks forward and not behind them?

The story seems short and limiting, I hope we'll have an expansion soon!

[ScotGaymer]

Persephone wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I also kind had a "wtf?" moment when he said that BW got feedback praising/liking the new art design in DA2. Seriously?
People liked the ClownSpawn?
People enjoyed having super low res textures in the vanilla game?
People liked a UI that was minimalist to the point of missing out useful, perhaps even essential information?
People liked the over exagerrated Anime hairstyles that didn't fit the universe?
People liked the mounds of ugly useless outfits you find throughout the games?
People liked the ugly ugly ugly helmets and hoods?
Really Bioware? You expect us to buy such blatant PR speak?

Let's see....

I liked the DAII darkspawn. Finally no more orc ripoffs.

The High resolution patch was free and part of the game, so I saw no "super low res textures" in the game.

The UI could have been done with more care. But TW2 beats it when it comes to laziness and sloppiness. By a mile.

90% of the hairstyles were right out of DAO, the others weren't anime like at all. I should know, I love the old Anime series. From Attack Nr. 1 to Anime games.

The helmets can be toggled off and are right out of DAO. I liked the hoods a lot though.

Tastes differ, you know?

Hey Persephone. Nice to see you. :-) 

I have to say I completely disagree.

The whole point of Dragon Age Origins (or so they kept telling us) was to take a Traditional Fighting Fantasy Universe and twist it so its a little bit different. Out of homage to the old while embracing the new.

Given that I kind of assumed that the Darkspawn looking like Orcs and Goblins was kind of the whole point since this game doesnt have orcs and goblins, it twisted the traditional natures of some of the more traditional fantasy races it does have.
Dwarves being all about politics instead of Trade and War.
Elves being an enslaved underclass, or in the case of the Dalish unwelcome outcasts; instead of this amazing ethereal all powerful deus ex machina race.

To that end I thought it was cute how they resonated with the old fantasy style but were different.

The ClownSpawn as are just silly looking; and the new Genlocks just look like a cross between a gorilla, a clown, and the pilsbury dough boy. Even if they looked like orcs and goblins before, they were more intimidating and scary in DAO than in DA2.
In DAO they made me startle more than once when they popped up. The Deep Roads wouldnt have felt anywhere near as dark and dank with DA2's ClownSpawn.
In DA2 they just make me roll my eyes and think "I have had enough of these guys, give me some other generic enemy."

As I said in another post, one of the hairstyles is pretty much a carbon copy of Zell Dincht from FF8. Just not as cow's licky. And FF is kind of the penultimate Anime style RPG. Don't get me wrong I love Anime, I just dont think the style fits the DA universe.

I shouldnt have to download a giant "patch" for a game in order to get decent looking textures Persephone; what about the console users?
Console users may well have to put up with a ridiculously ugly looking game (if they need to download the textures) because of lack of HD space (the new Xboxes have a small HD of 6GB). I find it mind boggling that they designed (supposedly) this game to make it more accessible to consoles and yet they did this...

And a Helmet toggle is no excuse for laziness or the ugliness of these helmets and hoods. At all.

[TEWR]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm surprised some people take issue with the fact that a 2h Hawke can swing his greatsword 50 times and not lose stamina, yet they fail to mention how Oghren and Sten could gain stamina from swinging their sword and landing a hit. Or was it from the kill? Either way, that's just as unrealistic if not moreso. You don't gain stamina from swinging something.

You, my friend, have obviously never encountered adrenaline. An adrenaline rush will push a man farther than he thought possible, and yes, this does happen in a warzone.

The whole theme of the Beserker is that they get a crazy ass rush when they start killing.

scratch unrealistic. It's been some time since I got into a fight. Years actually. I usually prefer to find peaceful situations, but if unavoidable I fight. Last fight I got into was a spar with some of my friends years back.

So then why can't people apply that to DA2? It's the same exact thing. Fenris gains stamina from each hit.

thanks though for reminding me about adrenaline. I made that post around 3 am so my mind was not only foggy but not allowing me to remember adrenaline.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 juillet 2011 - 12:17 .

[FieryDove]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

So then why can't people apply that to DA2? It's the same exact thing. Fenris gains stamina from each hit.

You are thinking of the rogue talent maybe? Follow-Through -Stamina regeneration: +1% per basic attack. Of course if one is only using basic attacks they might not kill much on higher difficulty.

Warriors got stamina for killing enemies in dao. They have a couple of battlemaster talents they can activate plus a passive Mana/stamina regeneration rate: +10 to help with stamina in DA2. Second wind is handy but even with that two-handers can be panting lots in harder/higher difficulty fights. I don't know about SnB I don't like them anymore, maybe they have talent for stamina/kill.

As to the demo...I'll just wait to see, I didn't watch much of it.
I can say I'm tired of brown/tan and red.

Modifié par FieryDove, 13 juillet 2011 - 01:46 .

[Saintthanksgiving]

I get into fights all the time, I don't regenrate stamina.... in fact if the fight goes longer than 10 seconds I usually collapse and cry till they stop hitting me.

[John Epler]

Oh, look, people throwing out insults.

Let's not do that, how about.