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[strangedane]

Arijharn wrote...

While the Vindicare (heh, I always think of the Officio Assassinorium temple when I say that - points if you get the reference!) 

Warhammer 40K

I LOVE the look of the Avenger style riffles, it's an Mass Effect icon in my eyes and the main reason I started a Soldier run through.

While I have the Mattock (not used it yet, still in ME 1), I think I will bring a rifle with more ammo most of the time, since I plan to do it on Insanity, and it feels like the enemies drop less ammo then?

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Just let me have the Kessler. That's all I could ever ask for.

[Kabanya101]

Everyone loves the Mattock, and I don't understand why. Yes the single fire has great precision, and yes it is WAY overpowered. But come ME3 when weapons are equal, and I mean that in terms where some weapons have pros AND cons to other weapons, its not going to be as strong as people want it to be in like in ME2.

And I have used the Mattock in ME2, great weapon on lower difficulties, but say you play a Soldier on Insanity as I have, its practically worthless. The gun carries enough ammo for two three enemies because of how strong their protection is. When you have to hang back and take enemies out afar in a long firefight, it doesn't keep up to the Revanent.

The Revanent is unstoppable. 80 rounds of pure hell raining down on enemies, they can't take the barrage. Even at range, just fire in short bursts and it can compete fairly well against the Mattock in accuracy.

I found when your another class that has assualt rifle training, the Mattock is a good choice because you have powers for backup when low on ammo, but when your a soldier and only have guns, its quite difficult.

[The Spamming Troll]

i think alot of people will be dissapointed with the mattocks nerfing in ME3.

i just want a full auto AR, hopefully i cant mod it to be extremely accurate, with a laser sight, grenade launcher, and a scope.

1 weapon to rule them all.

[Izhalezan]

Hellbound555 wrote...

OBJECTION.



the m8 rifle is the workhorse assault rifle of the alliance military. it IS the n7 assault rifle lorewise.

All hail Jessie.

[Arppis]

That default gun is my favourite... It has most ammo to spend! I like that, because there is so many enemies that take so many bullets, the other two rifles are just insufficent. M8 Avenger is the best!

[crimzontearz]

uhhhhh...yeah the Mattok was given to us in the "firepower" pack, a DLC the purpose of which was to give us weapons that were more powerful than the ones we already have

the Phalanx and the GPS are the most powerful exponents of their own weapon class, hell the GPS even outperforms the Claymore in the DPS department and more. The mattok was intended to be the best rifle in the game (maybe behind the revenent but I never used the revenant so I can only speak of the GPS being better than the claymore)

[sharkboy421]

The Mattock is an insanely powerful gun no doubt about it. But personally, I find its lack of ammo very troubling and very limiting. I will use it on Insanity for my soldier but as soon as I get to the Collector Ship or research the AR acc, I switch to the Revvy. Just use small bursts and it does just fine at mid-range and at close range the Revvy is monstrous. And I never worry about running out of ammo with my Revvy.

[lazuli]

crimzontearz wrote...

uhhhhh...yeah the Mattok was given to us in the "firepower" pack, a DLC the purpose of which was to give us weapons that were more powerful than the ones we already have

the Phalanx and the GPS are the most powerful exponents of their own weapon class, hell the GPS even outperforms the Claymore in the DPS department and more. The mattok was intended to be the best rifle in the game (maybe behind the revenent but I never used the revenant so I can only speak of the GPS being better than the claymore)

I don't think that was the purpose of the Firepower pack.  According to articles written at the time of its release, the purpose was to provide players with something different in the three weapon classes represented.  You get a laser-sight pistol, a unique way of firing for an assault rifle, and the GPS speaks for itself.

They are all powerful, but I find that the Mattock is the only truly overpowered one.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

The Mattock is a shining example of DLC power creep.

[Someone With Mass]

Is that enough?

[crimzontearz]

lazuli wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

uhhhhh...yeah the Mattok was given to us in the "firepower" pack, a DLC the purpose of which was to give us weapons that were more powerful than the ones we already have

the Phalanx and the GPS are the most powerful exponents of their own weapon class, hell the GPS even outperforms the Claymore in the DPS department and more. The mattok was intended to be the best rifle in the game (maybe behind the revenent but I never used the revenant so I can only speak of the GPS being better than the claymore)

I don't think that was the purpose of the Firepower pack.  According to articles written at the time of its release, the purpose was to provide players with something different in the three weapon classes represented.  You get a laser-sight pistol, a unique way of firing for an assault rifle, and the GPS speaks for itself.

They are all powerful, but I find that the Mattock is the only truly overpowered one.

uhm....the Phalanx ourperforms the other pistols in both damage and accuracy. Hell you can use it  almost as a sniper rifle

the Mattock you agree is overpowered (I don't care I still love it)

The GPS does more DPS than the Claymore when charged, has far (FAR) longer range and more accuracy than any other shotgun and provides vanguards with a way to OSK without running out of ammo after the first kill (thus allowing for more kills per charge before reloading

sure they many have different spins oon the parent weapon vlass but it is undeniable they do the job better 

[Longsword-83]

My money is on the "N7 Assault Rifle" being a preorder bonus in the vein of the Terminus Assault Armor/Blackstorm from Gamestop, and the Incisor from whoever else.

In which case I'm glad I already have my N7 edition paid off and on preorder so I have a complete arsenal.

Someone With Mass wrote...



Is that enough?

Though this is also a possibility.

[Longsword-83]

But to get back on topic with the off-topic discussion, Mattock is fine for Soldiers and whoever else, but as a Vanguard, I like something with a little more fury. A little more vengeance. A little more... vindication in its cause.

[SAE100]

The GPS has Drawbacks, it´s not as ammopower-efficient as the other shotguns and it hits "slower" because the plasmabolts have to travel all the way to the target before they deal damage. (The tracers of the other weapons can be ignored, they hit imediatly just like in me1)

The Mattock is overpowered on the soldier because of it´s redicilous rate of fire in adrenaline rush. There is no other weapon which can fire 16 rounds (one mag) during one adrenalin rush. As long as you don´t limit yourself to the Mattock as a soldier you won´t have any ammo-probs.

Oh and the M8 Avenger is not the workhorse of the Systems Alliance, the M7 Lancer is, unless Bioware breaks their own fluff in ME3

[Someone With Mass]

SAE100 wrote...

Oh and the M8 Avenger is not the workhorse of the Systems Alliance, the M7 Lancer is, unless Bioware breaks their own fluff in ME3

I hope for the Alliance's sake that the M8 is their weapon, because the Lancer is just crap.

[crimzontearz]

Longsword-83 wrote...

But to get back on topic with the off-topic discussion, Mattock is fine for Soldiers and whoever else, but as a Vanguard, I like something with a little more fury. A little more vengeance. A little more... vindication in its cause.

and sooo you pick the weapon with the lower DPS and accuracy?

right, total sense

[crimzontearz]

SAE100 wrote...

The GPS has Drawbacks, it´s not as ammopower-efficient as the other shotguns and it hits "slower" because the plasmabolts have to travel all the way to the target before they deal damage. (The tracers of the other weapons can be ignored, they hit imediatly just like in me1)

never had an issue with Ammo powers on my GPS (I only use incendiary ammo).
When you are blasting at close range no one is gonna dodge you so bullet speet is not an issue (especially with point blank shots).

[NICKjnp]

I don't want the N7 weapons...give me the specter weapons any day of the week. I could care less for the mattock. It is too big and too over powered....reminds me of a gears of war weapon. I still stick with the vindicator or the Geth pulse rifle.

[Longsword-83]

crimzontearz wrote...

Longsword-83 wrote...

But to get back on topic with the off-topic discussion, Mattock is fine for Soldiers and whoever else, but as a Vanguard, I like something with a little more fury. A little more vengeance. A little more... vindication in its cause.

and sooo you pick the weapon with the lower DPS and accuracy?

right, total sense

VANGUARD.

If I'm relying on an assault rifle to do the killing I'm doing my job wrong.

I take down defenses with the Vindicator- easier to do due to 3-round burst and easier control, as opposed to fanning the trigger- pull out my Eviscerator, hit Charge, and get to the killin'. Similar for the Avenger. Works better in close-quarters than the Vindicator and Mattock with more punch than the GPR, and allows for pop-in-pop-out firing from cover and suppresive fire while I line up a Charge. The Avenger is INVAULABLE on Husk-filled misions like Abandoned Mine and Derelict Reaper.

The Mattock works fine, and I don't have anything against it. I just have the Vindicator and Avenger as a preference for my class of choice.

Modifié par Longsword-83, 04 septembre 2011 - 04:15 .

[Someone With Mass]

I think the DPS has been lowered for the Mattock in ME3, since I have yet to see someone fire as fast with it in the ME3 demos as it can in ME2.

[Someone With Mass]

NICKjnp wrote...

I don't want the N7 weapons...give me the specter weapons any day of the week. I could care less for the mattock. It is too big and too over powered....reminds me of a gears of war weapon. I still stick with the vindicator or the Geth pulse rifle.

Ha. I wish ME3 had weapons like Gears does.

I just hope they've fixed the Incisor, so it sucks less balls this time.

[Hillbillyshep]

Avenger.

[crimzontearz]

Longsword-83 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Longsword-83 wrote...

But to get back on topic with the off-topic discussion, Mattock is fine for Soldiers and whoever else, but as a Vanguard, I like something with a little more fury. A little more vengeance. A little more... vindication in its cause.

and sooo you pick the weapon with the lower DPS and accuracy?

right, total sense

VANGUARD.

If I'm relying on an assault rifle to do the killing I'm doing my job wrong.

I take down defenses with the Vindicator- easier to do due to 3-round burst and easier control, as opposed to fanning the trigger- pull out my Eviscerator, hit Charge, and get to the killin'. Similar for the Avenger. Works better in close-quarters than the Vindicator and Mattock with more punch than the GPR, and allows for pop-in-pop-out firing from cover and suppresive fire while I line up a Charge. The Avenger is INVAULABLE on Husk-filled misions like Abandoned Mine and Derelict Reaper.

The Mattock works fine, and I don't have anything against it. I just have the Vindicator and Avenger as a preference for my class of choice.

I play ONLY vanguard. the Mattock and the GPS are the reason why I made another run to get rid of the Claymore.

If you are having issues close quarters/suppressive fire with the mattok then there is a problem because with its accuracy and modifiers you should be able to pop headshots and strip defenses with no problem. As a vanguard if you are using  an AR on husk laden missions (unless you are playing on insanity or another difficulty in which ALL mooks have defenses) when you are using a very poor techniques to get rid of them.

If it's a matter of "flavor" for you then that's fine but don't come to me and tell me the Vindicator is more effective even for fanguards because it is not

[Longsword-83]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ha. I wish ME3 had weapons like Gears does.

I just hope they've fixed the Incisor, so it sucks less balls this time.

Seems to work fine for Garrus. You must be doing something wrong.