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Humanoid_Typhoon

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Golden Owl wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

:bandit: If only I could film myself on xbox.

Then I'd show ya.

  Me too...XBox only also....:(

I hope the console makers get it right with the next system,we need more pc features.

but on topic
Image IPB other than the white one those are the new assault rifles,they may dethrone our favorites...

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...


other than the white one those are the new assault rifles,they may dethrone our favorites...

Wait, the white one isn't going to be included? In my opinion that's the only interesting one.

The first one depicted looks like that new weapon in Gears of War 3 (with the bayonnet). The second looks like something from the get armory. The third looks epic XD. The last is the new one that was revealed on N7 Ops right? It looks okay, I guess. All in all, I'm not impressed.

Someone noted that the M8 is fine because it's an Alliance weapon. But [from what I remember], it's standard military equipment. N7 gear is supposed to be special, epic weaponry that only few can wield. Although having the M8 will technically match my Alliance oriented Shepard. I'm still hoping that the N7 assualt rifle will be included within the Collectors Addition bundle, and that they just haven't mentioned it yet. Which is very much possiple. Seeing how Mr. Hudson stated that the CE content isn't final, and many things could be added.

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No,the white one is a sniper rifle,you didn't watch the squad leader trailer? Shepard actually uses it.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:30 .


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Please.... for the love of the game allow the weapons to be customised in colour / appearance.

Cant tell you how annoying it will be to have shiny white rifle on a black armor set or a white armor set coated with black guns.

The white one looks like a Star Trek Phaser rifle but... rather irrelevant since Sniper characters would logically be using the Widowmaker. This weapon supposed to be stronger than an Anti-Material Arm-Breaking cannon ?

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MATTOCK IS GOD.

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The Mattock is basically a semi-automatic sniper rifle once you get the accuracy upgrade. It's a real tack driver with some serious punch.

Plus it just sounds cool. it actually sounds like a gun.

Modifié par Yakko77, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:42 .


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Image IPB
Can you say no to that?!
Really?!
Really?

I give you the N7 Assault Rifle aka...Image IPB "The Ass-Kicker." Image IPB

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A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

Someone noted that the M8 is fine because it's an Alliance weapon. But [from what I remember], it's standard military equipment. N7 gear is supposed to be special, epic weaponry that only few can wield. Although having the M8 will technically match my Alliance oriented Shepard. I'm still hoping that the N7 assualt rifle will be included within the Collectors Addition bundle, and that they just haven't mentioned it yet. Which is very much possiple. Seeing how Mr. Hudson stated that the CE content isn't final, and many things could be added.


M7 Lancer is the Alliance standard. The M8 Avenger is something of an improved version of the M7.

Think of the Lancer as the Colt M4 Carbine (standard US service rifle), and the Avenger as the Heckler & Koch HK416 (in service with Delta and SEALs; looks like an M4, but hits harder and has a different firing system).

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Why is N7 so common but we don't see any of the lower N ranks in the Alliance? Also, how did Shepard even get to N7 from one mission?

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Why is N7 so common but we don't see any of the lower N ranks in the Alliance? Also, how did Shepard even get to N7 from one mission?


I think it took him a little longer than that, considering that he's been in the military his whole adult life.

I guess the lower ranks simply aren't worth mentioning. N7 isn't that common either. The only N7s we know are Shepard, David Anderson and Kai Leng, who's ex-N7.

James Vega is also with some kind of special forces within the Alliance, so maybe it branches off to other parts of their military. 

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You become an N7 soldier if you're good enough to enroll and graduate from the N7 training program.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/N7

Modifié par AwesomeName, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:54 .


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And I have used the Mattock in ME2, great weapon on lower difficulties, but say you play a Soldier on Insanity as I have, its practically worthless. The gun carries enough ammo for two three enemies because of how strong their protection is. When you have to hang back and take enemies out afar in a long firefight, it doesn't keep up to the Revanent.


I found when your another class that has assualt rifle training, the Mattock is a good choice because you have powers for backup when low on ammo, but when your a soldier and only have guns, its quite difficult.


(Played the game through multiple insanity runthroughs)

Mattock is king when used in Adrenaline Rush. It drops most enemies in a few shots if I remember correctly. Add to the fact it's ridiculously easy to get headshot after headshot in the time dilation (even without it?). And you should have AR up every few seconds. I seldom had a reason to fire out of AR as a soldier. Mattock in Adrenaline Rush > Revvy in Adrenaline Rush.

Oh and that's probably why I took reave as a bonus power. Just in case. But you can pick up enough ammo to keep the Mattock viable in game most of the time.

It's all my opinion. But just love the Mattock for precision tearing down of enemies. Revvy I used more for a run and gun beefy soldier playthrough

Off topic. The "tracking" capability of the GPS was pretty useful at range despite it's slow projectile (?) speed. Just have to anticipate the enemy a bit the farther away you are. Particularly useful (as a vanguard) for those situations where getting in close/charging in would mean instant death (again on insanity)

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It does'nt look like everyone is taking a look at all the facts. The M-76 Revenant can only be used by the soldier class and it has the worst accuracy of all the assault rifles. While the M-96 Mattock can be use by all classes and it can be used as a sniper rifle. And the Geth Pulse Rifle can only be obtained in hardcore or insanity difficultys. Plus not everyone want to play hardcore or insanity difficultys. And the Collector Assault Rifle was only obtainable, with a code from the Collector Edition of ME2. Leaving you only 3 choices to choose from the M-8 Avenger, M-15 Vindicator, and the M-96 Mattock. Making the M-96 Mattock more popular then the other assault rifles.

Modifié par WolfForce99, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:09 .


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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

:bandit: If only I could film myself on xbox.

Then I'd show ya.

You can record from any of the concoles.  I have a Dazzle video capture device hooked up to my Xbox.  You have to use the HD composite cables.  Here is a link to what it looks like.  My cable suck, so my picture isn't as clean as it should be.

Link

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I admit, the Mattock is the only reason I ever even thought about assault rifle training. I wonder if Bioware will tone it down though in ME3 or simply give tougher enemies. Hmm, reaaallly looking forward to trying out the new weapons. I want that sniper rifle!

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didymos1120 wrote...

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The Mattock is a proper rifle for a proper rifleman.

It hearkens back to the concept of the M-14: accurate, semi automatic, reliable, hits like a hammer.


Only the M-14 could be fired in full-auto mode. Not that it was used that way very often.


I've fired a 5.56mm rifle on full auto before.  I'm pretty convinced that an M-14 or FAL would be pretty worthless on full auto, unless you're planning on shooting down airplanes:lol:

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Yay Mattock!

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WolfForce99 wrote...

It does'nt look like everyone is taking a look at all the facts. The M-76 Revenant can only be used by the soldier class and it has the worst accuracy of all the assault rifles. While the M-96 Mattock can be use by all classes and it can be used as a sniper rifle. And the Geth Pulse Rifle can only be obtained in hardcore or insanity difficultys. Plus not everyone want to play hardcore or insanity difficultys. And the Collector Assault Rifle was only obtainable, with a code from the Collector Edition of ME2. Leaving you only 3 choices to choose from the M-8 Avenger, M-15 Vindicator, and the M-96 Mattock. Making the M-96 Mattock more popular then the other assault rifles.


For Haestrom, you could just switch the difficulty to hardcore before going there and then put it back down once you have the rifle. 

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i prefer the geth plasma rifle

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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It does'nt look like everyone is taking a look at all the facts. The M-76 Revenant can only be used by the soldier class and it has the worst accuracy of all the assault rifles. While the M-96 Mattock can be use by all classes and it can be used as a sniper rifle. And the Geth Pulse Rifle can only be obtained in hardcore or insanity difficultys. Plus not everyone want to play hardcore or insanity difficultys. And the Collector Assault Rifle was only obtainable, with a code from the Collector Edition of ME2. Leaving you only 3 choices to choose from the M-8 Avenger, M-15 Vindicator, and the M-96 Mattock. Making the M-96 Mattock more popular then the other assault rifles.


For Haestrom, you could just switch the difficulty to hardcore before going there and then put it back down once you have the rifle. 


Thanks, I never would of though about doing that. Does it work? I will try this, when I go back through the game.

Modifié par WolfForce99, 07 septembre 2011 - 05:29 .


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jamesp81 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

The Mattock is a proper rifle for a proper rifleman.

It hearkens back to the concept of the M-14: accurate, semi automatic, reliable, hits like a hammer.


Only the M-14 could be fired in full-auto mode. Not that it was used that way very often.


I've fired a 5.56mm rifle on full auto before.  I'm pretty convinced that an M-14 or FAL would be pretty worthless on full auto, unless you're planning on shooting down airplanes:lol:



Yeah,if you aren't a real man.

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WolfForce99 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

WolfForce99 wrote...

It does'nt look like everyone is taking a look at all the facts. The M-76 Revenant can only be used by the soldier class and it has the worst accuracy of all the assault rifles. While the M-96 Mattock can be use by all classes and it can be used as a sniper rifle. And the Geth Pulse Rifle can only be obtained in hardcore or insanity difficultys. Plus not everyone want to play hardcore or insanity difficultys. And the Collector Assault Rifle was only obtainable, with a code from the Collector Edition of ME2. Leaving you only 3 choices to choose from the M-8 Avenger, M-15 Vindicator, and the M-96 Mattock. Making the M-96 Mattock more popular then the other assault rifles.


For Haestrom, you could just switch the difficulty to hardcore before going there and then put it back down once you have the rifle. 


Thanks, I never would of though about doing that. Does it work? I will try this, when I go back through the game.

Yes,it does work I have done it a few times.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

The Mattock is a proper rifle for a proper rifleman.

It hearkens back to the concept of the M-14: accurate, semi automatic, reliable, hits like a hammer.


Only the M-14 could be fired in full-auto mode. Not that it was used that way very often.


I've fired a 5.56mm rifle on full auto before.  I'm pretty convinced that an M-14 or FAL would be pretty worthless on full auto, unless you're planning on shooting down airplanes:lol:



Yeah,if you aren't a real man.


You have my respect then.  Despite your chest pounding on the subject, those aren't easy to hold down on full auto ;)

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

The Mattock is a proper rifle for a proper rifleman.

It hearkens back to the concept of the M-14: accurate, semi automatic, reliable, hits like a hammer.


Only the M-14 could be fired in full-auto mode. Not that it was used that way very often.


I've fired a 5.56mm rifle on full auto before.  I'm pretty convinced that an M-14 or FAL would be pretty worthless on full auto, unless you're planning on shooting down airplanes:lol:



Yeah,if you aren't a real man.


Impressive but for the average trooper, anything more than a 3 rd burst with 7.62x51/.308 and it's pretty much an anti-aircraft gun as stated above.


IMO, the M-14 is the real life version of the Mattock.  Deadly, hard hitting, accurate at long range and best used in semi-auto.  Heck, even my semi-auto AK (Romanian SAR-1) is fairly accurate in semi-auto but when I try to "bumpfire" it to make it practically full auto, the rounds generally go everywhere unless I'm holding the weapon on something stationary.  For accuracy at anyting beyond medium range in full auto, you generally need at least a bi-pod IMO.  Then again, I was no Marine or infantryman but I have own a few weapons and base my post on my experience, however amateur, with such.

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AwesomeName wrote...

You become an N7 soldier if you're good enough to enroll and graduate from the N7 training program.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/N7


You become a Delta Force operator if you're good enough to enroll and graduate from the Delta Force training program, but that doesn't mean they're common.