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[Johnny20]

I wasn't keen on Hawke, but could live with him as a companion/involvement.

Protagonist? No thanks.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I don`t think Warden will ever again be a playable character.

Because we will be transfering saves from DA2 - and there Warden can be accepted as dead, so (s)he cannot be a main character ever again.

PS:And don`t forgett the Witch Hunt Ending too.

Modifié par Chaos Lord Malek, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:31 .

[A Puzzled Mind]

Hawke is far more tainted than any Darkspawn. He just reeks.

Heck, I'd rather be forced to have "the Mother" as my permanent companion than Hawke.

[csfteeeer]

Slidell505 wrote...

The Warden's not coming back, I'm sick and ****ing tired of this thread.

then don't enter the thread, i'm F***ing sick of people like you.

[xkg]

Realmzmaster wrote...

You could ask the question the other way. The warden as a companion to Hawke. I personally want neither. I want a new protagonist with information coming from DAO and DA2 as background story.

My Warden being sidekick companion to Hawke ?. HELL NOOOOO. Not going to happen.
Being a clueless tool is Hawke's job.

Warden or new protagonist.

Modifié par xkg, 13 juillet 2011 - 09:28 .

[alex90c]

xkg wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

You could ask the question the other way. The warden as a companion to Hawke. I personally want neither. I want a new protagonist with information coming from DAO and DA2 as background story.

My Warden being sidekick companion to Hawke ?. HELL NOOOOO. Not going to happen.
Being a clueless tool is Hawke's job.

Warden or new protagonist.

Of course, if we got the Warden back he'd be subjected to the dialogue wheel of fun.

Imagine it:

The Warden has just carved his way through legions of darkspawn. He stops to regain his breath, and his LI expresses his/her frustration at there being so many. Warden replies:

I want to be a dragon.

[xkg]

alex90c wrote...
Of course, if we got the Warden back he'd be subjected to the dialogue wheel of fun.

Imagine it:

The Warden has just carved his way through legions of darkspawn. He stops to regain his breath, and his LI expresses his/her frustration at there being so many. Warden replies:

I want to be a dragon.

 
Hehehe
"I want to be a dragon. Want a sandwich ?"

[astreqwerty]

u know what?thats a great idea..!imagine if hes backstory reflected your choices in da2..ha kiddin remember there were no choices in da2 so yeah hawke as a companion would be really aewsome and viable..(and his appearnce could change i mean isnt that hard they did with hawke family)

edit: impossible:it would require them to do double voice overs for male and female hawke which i highly doubt

[furryrage59]

IF the warden returned and Hawke was a companion, i would buy the game just so i could take Hawkes weapons off, spec him wrong (mage with strength,dex) and send him unarmed as the tank whilst the others sit back and have a smoke.

Honestly don't think i'd ever get tired of seeing him incapped, oh and never healing injuries 8)

[Yuqi]

Why all the hawke hate :/

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

They could use the default appearences,for the origins..but the ****fight that would cause, along with the *But my warden dident sound like ect ect*.

As much as I would like to see the warden return, I can live with hawke.

I really don't want another protaganist..

Modifié par Yuqi, 13 juillet 2011 - 12:40 .

[xkg]

Yuqi wrote...

Why all the hawke hate :/

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

They could use the default appearences,for the origins..but the ****fight that would cause, along with the *But my warden dident sound like ect ect*.

As much as I would like to see the warden return, I can live with hawke.

I really don't want another protaganist..

Fixed it a little :
"Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody not everyone would be satisfied"

Modifié par xkg, 13 juillet 2011 - 12:55 .

[furryrage59]

Yuqi wrote...

Why all the hawke hate :/

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

They could use the default appearences,for the origins..but the ****fight that would cause, along with the *But my warden dident sound like ect ect*.

As much as I would like to see the warden return, I can live with hawke.

I really don't want another protaganist..

You make it sound like putting a lot of hard work into a game is a bad thing.

[Eternal Phoenix]

You know that you can change Hawke's first default name, customize his face and choose his gender? People act as though he was a fixed character but he was supposed to be your character just like that guy from Mass Effect. Origins had fixed second names but you still chose your character's first name, customise his face and choose his gender (I'm using he here, I know but using "it " would sound strange). Also, you do know that you could only have 5 voices in Origins? Even if you imagined your character having an African accent, as soon as he entered battle, he would be using the voice you chose for him. So no role playing here in how you imagine your character to sound like. Whenever the character gets a full voice, people think he/her is not there character but I was able to role my Hawke how I wanted. I made him a devout mage hating religious Templar warrior.

People who call Hawke gay or a **** are those who made Hawke such a person. LOL!

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 13 juillet 2011 - 07:34 .

[Rawke]

Elton John is dead wrote...

telephasic wrote...

For the record, I think Bioware planned to use Hawke as the protagonist in Dragon Age 3.  However, given the...mixed feelings...about Hawke (which I think are mostly unfounded, except the voice acting wasn't the best in places), I think this is rather less likely now.  

However, given hints at the endgame about the Warden and Hawke being somehow involved (not in a sexual manner), I wonder, if they choose to bring back the Warden, if Hawke could just become a party member?  After all, there's a ton of data by the end of DA2 to import (basic personality, decisions made, romantic companion, etc).  So Hawke could show up with his or her love interest in tow, and add a whole different aspect to the game.  It would be...interesting...if Hawke brings along Anders, or Fenris if the Warden was Dalish, perhaps even Isabella if the Warden had a threesome with her. 

The inverse, in contrast, I think would be almost impossible to do.  I think the Warden could not be NPC-ized without pissing off absolutely everyone.

Thoughts?  

The Warden - male.
Hakwe - female.
and
Isabella

In a threesome!?

You Sir, just made my day.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I actually changed my post and was changing it when you posted that message. I guess what I originally said will remain to haunt me forever...but seriously, that's what I gathered from the TC's post. If Hawke does return as an NPC...will he/she be romancable? I don't see either character returning as NPCs.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 13 juillet 2011 - 07:37 .

[telephasic]

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

1.  There's no reason each race would need its own voice.  More important are accents.  Human wardens would have English accents most likely.  City elves and dwarves American accents.  I suppose the Dalish now have Irish accents, so you'd need to include one of those too. 

2.  You'd need the three personalities regardless.  That said, I don't think there will be three personalities in DA3.  

3.  I don't understand the VO for every origin point.  If we played the Warden in DA3, we wouldn't replay our origin in the updated engine, would we?  More likely there would be origins like "King/Queen," or "back from the dead"

[luckdog55]

I think a nice cameo for Hawke in DA3 is if the whole Templar/Mage war is still going on, Hawke could be assisting whichever side you tried to help. Such as assisting the Templars in hunting down the rebel magi, or working with the magi in fighting off the templars.

[csfteeeer]

Yuqi wrote...

Why all the hawke hate :/

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

They could use the default appearences,for the origins..but the ****fight that would cause, along with the *But my warden dident sound like ect ect*.

As much as I would like to see the warden return, I can live with hawke.

I really don't want another protaganist..

So Working Hard is a bad thing?
Besides, the hole Personality thing can be removed.

[Yuqi]

furryrage59 wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Why all the hawke hate :/

Bringing back the warden would be hard, even if they did nobody would be satisfied. Besides that consider there sheer amount of dialouge and VO work required:

 Lets say, they just did a different voice for each race(male and female) with the three personalits.That is 18 variations on one line of dialouge alone. A different VO for every origin would be 42 variations, on one line of dialouge; not to mention the customastion.

They could use the default appearences,for the origins..but the ****fight that would cause, along with the *But my warden dident sound like ect ect*.

As much as I would like to see the warden return, I can live with hawke.

I really don't want another protaganist..

You make it sound like putting a lot of hard work into a game is a bad thing.

Thanks for the edit  XKG 

When has EA ever put that much work into a game? I'm not saying its a bad thing, it just seems unfeasible. Unless  we go back in the past,and get rid of E.A.

I don't want another whole new protaganist, if I did I would play Final Fantasy. SO I would rather hawke then a whole new protaganist.

[Skaden]

Yuqi wrote...

I don't want another whole new protaganist, if I did I would play Final Fantasy. SO I would rather hawke then a whole new protaganist.

While I absolutely respect your opinion, I don't understand why you are so opposed to having a new protagonist, I don't really have a problem with Hawke but he had his ten years, which is more than many protagonists can say; it's time for someone new to take over. Besides the story is supposed to be about Thedas not any 1 person, which is why we couldn't continue as the Warden,so to suddenly have Hawke as the protagonist in the next game would feel like an inconsistent copout that destroys their justification for not having the Warden as the DA2 protagonist. As an added bonus, having a new protagonist gives bioware the chance to clean up their act and give us back playable origins, the 1 real "innovation" DA has done imho.

Modifié par Skaden, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:03 .

[Weltea]

While I think having Hawke as a companion wouldn't be all bad (the choices you made for the personality could be imported) I would still find it better if neither Warden or Hawke were companions/protagonists in DA3.
With the Warden the personality choices are to various (+I doubt the game kept track) and even with Hawke it wouldn't really work.I mean,say you played a sarcastic Hawke but occasionally chose diplomatic answers -now if in-game there's a situation in which you would have chosen the diplomatic answer but Hawke makes fun of the situation because that's the personality imported for him...it would just annoy the hell outta you. =>Both Warden and Hawke have a predefined personality in the players head that an import couldn't really show
(Also both are said to have vanished.I'd rather have a new protagonist who deals with that)

[KotorEffect3]

What is with the Hawke hate in this thread? I understand that people weren't crazy about DA 2 as a game but why the Hawke hate?

[phoenixgoddess27]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

What is with the Hawke hate in this thread? I understand that people weren't crazy about DA 2 as a game but why the Hawke hate?

Different opinions. Some like and some dislike.

[berelinde]

Assuming that DA3 takes place sometime shortly after Cassandra's interrogation of Varric, both Hawke and the Warden will be over 30. While I would love the chance to play a more mature protagonist, it doesn't really fit with the typical BioWare "20 and loving it" standard.

Also, I'm not all that attached to my Warden, oddly enough. Sure, I liked playing her, but I liked Hawke just as much. And I'll probably enjoy playing whoever they decide will be the PC for DA3, as well. As long as it isn't Leliana.

That's my take on it, in summary. It's a new game. It's time for a new PC. Sure, make references to the past, but make it stand-alone.

[Icy Magebane]

You know, now that I'm looking at this series a little differently, a new PC for each game doesn't seem like that bad of an idea... I mean, the same protagonist in every game isn't even standard in RPGs... I think I forgot about that at some point. Whatever... I'll play DA3 regardless of the protagonist (but like berelinde just said, as long as it isn't Leliana...).

Ah... and I mean "Hawke" or "new PC"... I still don't want the Warden coming back at all... given the rather strict guidelines Bioware placed on Hawke's behavior, I just don't see them giving us the freedom we had in DA:O. And that just isn't something I would want to see done to any of my Wardens...