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If they bring the warden back the whinnery is never going to end, mywarden would have never said that!!, his left eye twitch the other way!! "qq more for 9000 years."
Lets just settle for a new character, I'll miss hawke but I would rather have a new character than to have hawke as companion.
Is nice to see that Bioware make cameos for some of them.

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You are getting neither Hawke nor the Warden as the PC for DA3. It will be a new character.

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I would imagine a "team up" of sorts for DA2 DLC. Plenty of potential there.

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I have no desire to play my warden again (outside of origins). So, that'd be not my favorite. Especially seeing how I love Hawke to pieces. I would love to play as her again!

I'm all about a new protagonist though...just not the warden. I really feel like that story is done. For me, there are more interesting things than grey wardens.

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Zanallen wrote...

You are getting neither Hawke nor the Warden as the PC for DA3. It will be a new character.


How do you know this?

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Cyne wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

You are getting neither Hawke nor the Warden as the PC for DA3. It will be a new character.


How do you know this?


Because Bioware staff has stated this multiple times already.... I think DG just made a recent post to that effect not to long ago *goes fishing a bit*

David Gaider wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
Laidlaw confirmed that the plan for DA going forward was to have a new protagonist each game.


Correct. Neither the Warden nor Hawke will be the PC for DA3. If either of those characters appear, it will be as NPC's only. We've clearly said this several times, so I'm uncertain why it's still a question.


From the "Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon Age 3" thread in the registered game owner's forum.

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 I think the warden and hawke both need to be in Da3 , i think there will be something to do with flemeth and morgane , and the templars. Hawke and the Warden both have dealt with Flemeth... I also think that there will be something to do with the old warden commander from Legacy Larius ..I think the magister possed him at his death.. There are to many story threads here to just pinpoint one, Look at the end of da2 the seekers and there story.. Both DA 1 & 2 are great..

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I know we're not getting to play as either protagonist again, but I think Warden/Morrigan/Hawke/Merrill would be the ultimate party to have.

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Drasanil wrote...

Because Bioware staff has stated this multiple times already.... I think DG just made a recent post to that effect not to long ago *goes fishing a bit*

David Gaider wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
Laidlaw confirmed that the plan for DA going forward was to have a new protagonist each game.


Correct. Neither the Warden nor Hawke will be the PC for DA3. If either of those characters appear, it will be as NPC's only. We've clearly said this several times, so I'm uncertain why it's still a question.


From the "Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon Age 3" thread in the registered game owner's forum.


I do hope that David Gaider reconsiders those words. Ie, if the Warden and Hawke will never again be playable characters, I don't see how many people who enjoyed playing either one of, or both those characters could ever be satisfied with them appearing as scripted NPC's.

As quite a few have previously said, it would stir up a hornets nest of dissent as people comment on how "their" Warden would never have made such a comment, or done that particular thing. A wave of displeasure with how Bioware writers had treated their beloved character as an NPC would follow...and then some.

Best leave them entirely out of the game, off camera and merely mentioned, if it is the intention they will never be a PC again.

Any other approach would be laughable, well for me it would.

At least though, for the Warden, being the 'silent' type, there may be some point in the future which he or she can reappear in high quality fan authored and designed games (that go beyond merely using the old DA Origins engine and toolset). The tech will be there at some point for fans to take this more independent approach.

However, with Hawke being voiced, getting Jo Wyatt and Nicholas Boulton to work on fan authored games will probably be a non starter !

Modifié par Theagg, 19 octobre 2011 - 10:14 .


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Drasanil wrote...

Cyne wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

You are getting neither Hawke nor the Warden as the PC for DA3. It will be a new character.


How do you know this?


Because Bioware staff has stated this multiple times already.... I think DG just made a recent post to that effect not to long ago *goes fishing a bit*

David Gaider wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
Laidlaw confirmed that the plan for DA going forward was to have a new protagonist each game.


Correct. Neither the Warden nor Hawke will be the PC for DA3. If either of those characters appear, it will be as NPC's only. We've clearly said this several times, so I'm uncertain why it's still a question.


From the "Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon Age 3" thread in the registered game owner's forum.


Oh thanks. That should be very interesting to have an all new protagonist. Hopefully they'll be related to Hawke/The warden in some tangible way.

Modifié par Cyne, 19 octobre 2011 - 10:52 .


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Here is about the only way I would be satisfied as either The Warden, or Hawke, or both turning up again as NPC's.

Technically for the most part they might remain as NPC's (in the sense of them being companions) but just like any good ensemble cast movie (since these games are becoming much more 'cinematic') they would get to do their bit separate of the main protagonist. And this would not just be a short sequence in which you the player run them around on their own in combat for a few minutes (as with Varric's embelished entry into Bartrands house).

Not just that but an approach where they would have their own scenes, being much more involved in the plot, their own dialogue interactions with important characters. Interactions and choices that actually influence the main game. It would have to be meaty enough to make this worth while.

So, for example, in a game designed to take around 60 hours to complete, the main new protagonist would get the lion's share of 'onscreen' time, maybe 75% to 80% but meanwhile....cut to new scenes...Hawke, Warden etc have their own piece of the unfolding action, perhaps 5 hours apiece.

These threads weave together as the story progresses.

It won't happen this way though.

That would be much more satisfying than merely having them turn up as scripted robots over who you have no control. Having the Warden or Hawke simply turn up at a 'party' in the manner in which other NPC's turn up at the Chateau Haine party in MotA would be about the worst thing that could happen.

If that were the envisaged plan, my advice to Bioware would be don't bother.

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inb4: ''He walked through the Eluvian to a completely unknown place / disappeared completely randomly is a good ending''

or am i too late?

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Androme wrote...

inb4: ''He walked through the Eluvian to a completely unknown place / disappeared completely randomly is a good ending''

or am i too late?


I don't know if you're late or not but i know one thing for sure - your post is as pointless as any other "inb4 lock" "this again" ... etc kind of post.

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CARL_DF90 wrote...

I would imagine a "team up" of sorts for DA2 DLC. Plenty of potential there.


I think so too. Maybe as the last DLC before DA3, and post-game. To shed some light on the "and then they disappeared mysteriously" thing.

Not sure how it would work, but it'd be interesting to see. It'd be funny if we had to pick conversation options for both the Warden and Hawke. Basically constructing an entire conversation on our own. Posted Image

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ReallyRue wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I would imagine a "team up" of sorts for DA2 DLC. Plenty of potential there.


I think so too. Maybe as the last DLC before DA3, and post-game. To shed some light on the "and then they disappeared mysteriously" thing.

Not sure how it would work, but it'd be interesting to see. It'd be funny if we had to pick conversation options for both the Warden and Hawke. Basically constructing an entire conversation on our own. Posted Image


If they could make it possible to play as the warden as main protaganist in the dlc then I would be very happy, but this isn´t about me. 

    

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As I said in another thread, having Yet Another Premade Protagonist for DA3 makes it less likely that I'll bother with DA3.

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dsl08002 wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I would imagine a "team up" of sorts for DA2 DLC. Plenty of potential there.


I think so too. Maybe as the last DLC before DA3, and post-game. To shed some light on the "and then they disappeared mysteriously" thing.

Not sure how it would work, but it'd be interesting to see. It'd be funny if we had to pick conversation options for both the Warden and Hawke. Basically constructing an entire conversation on our own. Posted Image


If they could make it possible to play as the warden as main protaganist in the dlc then I would be very happy, but this isn´t about me. 

    



True enough my my friend. Still, we'll see what comes of it. Bioware does have a habit of surprising us. Posted Image

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What about each character Warder, Hawk, New Guy, as playable? Each has his/hers storylines which cross at some point depending on the choises made. That would be nice.

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A trilogy closer with ALL the main hero's taking stage one last time before the end? Hmm...dramatic effect. I LIKE!

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Ukki wrote...

What about each character Warder, Hawk, New Guy, as playable? Each has his/hers storylines which cross at some point depending on the choises made. That would be nice.


BUT at the end of da2 it said: The warden has dissapear and so have hawke.. many thing should be explored  before their return!

In the future if Hawke and the warden come back it will be alright of course! But! it depend of what that game will be about..  Exemple: killing the ( boss*) from legacy? hawke took part on his scape and the warden probably start getting nightmares or callings and Both of them decide to stop it at all cost?

Somethign big should bring them together not just:
1)oh a new game that has nothing about darkspawn but lets get the warden! 
2)look!! nothing about mages and templars get hawke! Is silly.
This characters have to have something in comun to work together and whats better than trying to stop.. that evil thing?;)

Thats what i think, do I want hawke and the warden back destroying an evil thing together? YES. but everything in due time, I still want to know about the seeker's, qunari, Nevarra, Orlais and the rest of Thedas. :wizard:
Oh and before I forget The player should take control of Either hawke/warden/new guy* yes i don't want anyone also to choose for me.=]

Modifié par Huntress, 23 octobre 2011 - 04:24 .


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my main warden did the US, but bringing people back from the dead is all the rage...
Alistair: you're supposed to be dead?
warden: you're supposed to be an idiot..oh wait..
wynne: we saw you die when you killed the arch demon....
warden: bioware gave me a stunt double...

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please, just no.

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its to bad really but i understand the reason for having neither of them playable, however i think it would of been neat to have both of them as playable, and be able to choose dialogs for both of them, but i assume you would have to take control of the Warden because, well you cant talk to a silent companion

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Bioware should spin Hawk off for a different series with Mike Laidlaw as director and they should re-hire Brent Knowles to carryon the real Dragon Age series. I know which one would sell better. I for one would rather continue to play a character that I had created from the original game than to be kept being fed someone else's character.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 24 octobre 2011 - 11:56 .


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Jerrybnsn wrote...

Bioware should spin Hawk off for a different series with Mike Laidlaw as director and they should re-hire Brent Knowles to carryon the real Dragon Age series. I know which one would sell better. I for one would rather continue to play a character that I had created from the original game than to be kept being fed someone else's character.


I agree with you.

I dont really understand why they had to change from the warden to new protaganist. my theory is that when Mass effect 2 came out then bioware wanted to change DA by not following the same path, but i enjoyed to continue on my character from DAO to DAA then to the DAO DLC:s.

The character from DA2 was already set and the only thing you could change was the face. Unlike DAO where you create your warden to your image and in the conversations you could pick exaclty those options that was well "you". 

 

Modifié par dsl08002, 24 octobre 2011 - 08:35 .