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Saving the council, good or bad?

Débuté par S.A.K , juil. 12 2011 06:56

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#101
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:16

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Luc0s wrote...

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Luc0s wrote...

Most humans can't simply toss that morality aside and pick it back up a moment later.


You said it yourself. MOST.


Yes, the VAST MAJORITY. Unless you're a trained soldier, a war-veteran or a trained commando unit, I'm pretty damn sure you're part of that majority.


And thats why I think that the military trains psychopaths instead of the so called "defenders", at least they could train soldiers to be problem solvers not just killing machines with zero free will.

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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:16

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mauro2222 wrote...

You made a big step by admitting your condition, the next step is to search for help ;)


Im a psychology student. Can I save money and help myself?

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#103
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:16

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 I save the council so the rest of the galaxy won't think humans are all douches.  Plus it'll probably be easier to unite the galaxy faster in me3.

#104
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:16

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mauro2222 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

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Most humans can't simply toss that morality aside and pick it back up a moment later.


You said it yourself. MOST.


The others are mentally sick, like you clearly showed to us.


Nah he's not mentally sick. He's just acting all cool and though on the internet. We both know that if he would have have to make a decision similar to Shepard's decision in real-life, he would cry for mommy, he would be clueless and pray for an answer or for someone to help him. He would not have the balls to make a decision, even though he claims he does. But that's okay. most of us don't have the balls to deal with traumatizing situations in real-life that would traumatize the most of us.

#105
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:18

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alright. this is getting WAY off topic

#106
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:19

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Please stick to topic. This is about the council

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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:20

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mauro2222 wrote...

And thats why I think that the military trains psychopaths instead of the so called "defenders", at least they could train soldiers to be problem solvers not just killing machines with zero free will.


Well I don't know much about the army but I do kow that Navy Seals and Commando's are trained to be problem-solvers. They're not only trained to kill, they're also trained to deal with situations that requires negotiation skills.

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#108
S.A.K
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:21

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LucOs please get back to topic

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Mr. Gogeta34
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:22

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The most positives that the game presents have come from the Paragon choice of saving the council.

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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:22

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This thread isn't going to solve anything, people who save the Council do it because they think it's the right thing to do, the people you let them die also think they did the right thing. There's a quote about this sort of thing that I like, though I've forgotten the exact words so I'll look it up later...

Personally, I save the council. Sovereign had just blown past a DN and over 20 CA's without even firing a shot (and ramming one CA)...I couldn't see how less than a dozen human CA's could make any appreciable difference except by saving the Destiny Ascension.

#111
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:22

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Luc0s wrote...

Nah he's not mentally sick. He's just acting all cool and though on the internet. We both know that if he would have have to make a decision similar to Shepard's decision in real-life, he would cry for mommy, he would be clueless and pray for an answer or for someone to help him. He would not have the balls to make a decision, even though he claims he does. But that's okay. most of us don't have the balls to deal with traumatizing situations in real-life that would traumatize the most of us.


I'd probably be tense, at most.

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#112
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:22

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Luc0s wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Most humans can't simply toss that morality aside and pick it back up a moment later.


You said it yourself. MOST.


The others are mentally sick, like you clearly showed to us.


Nah he's not mentally sick. He's just acting all cool and though on the internet. We both know that if he would have have to make a decision similar to Shepard's decision in real-life, he would cry for mommy, he would be clueless and pray for an answer or for someone to help him. He would not have the balls to make a decision, even though he claims he does. But that's okay. most of us don't have the balls to deal with traumatizing situations in real-life that would traumatize the most of us.


Yes, I know, but on internet you never know who is behind the monitor, so I always speak with sarcasm... in that way if he is really sick, he will understand ( better for him and for all of us ), if he´s not he will feel offended ( I'll have to ask for forgiveness ) or he will catch the sarcasm as a joke.

#113
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:23

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S.A.K wrote...

LucOs please get back to topic


Yeah LucOs, stop being an ass.

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#114
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:23

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S.A.K wrote...

LucOs please get back to topic


Sorry we are done :happy:

#115
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:23

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Pharos wrote...

This thread isn't going to solve anything, people who save the Council do it because they think it's the right thing to do, the people you let them die also think they did the right thing. There's a quote about this sort of thing that I like, though I've forgotten the exact words so I'll look it up later...

Personally, I save the council. Sovereign had just blown past a DN and over 20 CA's without even firing a shot (and ramming one CA)...I couldn't see how less than a dozen human CA's could make any appreciable difference except by saving the Destiny Ascension.

Ofcouse it won't solve anything. Threads are foro discussions and to solve problems.

#116
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:24

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Pharos wrote...

This thread isn't going to solve anything, people who save the Council do it because they think it's the right thing to do, the people you let them die also think they did the right thing. There's a quote about this sort of thing that I like, though I've forgotten the exact words so I'll look it up later...

Personally, I save the council. Sovereign had just blown past a DN and over 20 CA's without even firing a shot (and ramming one CA)...I couldn't see how less than a dozen human CA's could make any appreciable difference except by saving the Destiny Ascension.


You don't know how many causalties your reinforcements will sustain... the fact that they only lost that many lives is because of how Bioware wrote the consequences out.

That said, you're right in that everyone felt they made their decision for a justified reason.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:25 .

#117
Iwantobelieve
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:26

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.I dont like politicians.


In a democratic system, there should be no problem replacing government leaders be electing others.
So I prefer to attack the real threat sovereign. The council just should have listened to be. They can die.

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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:26

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ThePwener wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

LucOs please get back to topic


Yeah LucOs, stop being an ass.

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Pot, kettle, black. Go figure. ;)

#119
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:26

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that doesn't mean it's not a good debate topic.

I save the counsel because it's better for morale, they're on the way, reignforcements, and Sovereign doesn't have control of the citadel

Shepard: I can still stop Sovereign form gaining control.

or something that paraphrases that

#120
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:26

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Even if that justified reason is wrong. Mass Effect is great as giving out indirect consequences.

#121
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:31

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[/quote]

Pot, kettle, black. Go figure. ;)

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you sound scarily like Joker.

and that thread ends here

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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:32

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Mahrac wrote...


you sound scarily like Joker.


I take that as a compliment.:wizard:

#123
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:34

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Mahrac wrote...

and that thread ends here


Are you a mod?

NO?

Moving along....

#124
Mahrac
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:35

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of course not. if i were a mod i wouldn't have said that.

but both of these posts make me hypocritical, sooo trying to not be. it's just hard

#125
Iwantobelieve
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 05:37

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Okay so explain me.

Shepard tryed to prevent the council from the reaper threat, they told him to go f*** himself.
Why should he save their asses, sending poor human soldiers who will have to face the consequences of the council stupidity?

I'm pro-galactic council AND paragon, but the decision to save the council is dumb as f***.

Modifié par Iwantobelieve, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:38 .

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