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[Macropodmum]

Am I the only one who finds it annoying that after saving the elven slave girl in Fenris's quest to find Hadriana, and giving her a job at your estate (because lets face it giving her coin and telling her to go would probably end up with her being a slave again, somewhat akin to letting a cage bred canary out into the wilderness) you mother tuts about having an "elven slave, I hope you know what you are doing?". 

When Fenris retorts he didn't know you were in the market for a slave you have the option to tell him you gave her a job, which gets you big kudos from him, but regardless of whether you talk to the girl first on arriving back at the estate and informing her she has a job and is not a slave, your mother still keeps repeating the same retarded lines.

[Lara Denton]

He, he, the mom refers to Fenris (after your Hawke had a hot night with him ).

P.S. Fenris!

[TEWR]

Leandra's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Macropodmum]

laradenton wrote...

He, he, the mom refers to Fenris (after your Hawke had a hot night with him ).

P.S. Fenris!

Lol, still working on that this time around

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Leandra's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

True, but still an annoying oversight I think

Modifié par Macropodmum, 13 juillet 2011 - 04:21 .

[TEWR]

Filament wrote...

She just assumes all elves are slaves, or should be.

damn nobles.....

[devSin]

Macropodmum wrote...

When Fenris retorts he didn't know you were in the market for a slave you have the option to tell him you gave her a job, which gets you big kudos from him, but regardless of whether you talk to the girl first on arriving back at the estate and informing her she has a job and is not a slave, your mother still keeps repeating the same retarded lines.

It's prejudice. It's how she and most humans see elves.

She's not doing it to be a tool; she just doesn't see that there's something else going on. An elf, who's serving you, is a slave. In a nation that supports slavery (or the form of almost-but-not-quite slavery of most city elves), if you tell somebody that you're paying your slave, they're not going to start believing that it's not a slave (just that there's something very wrong with you for giving money to a slave).

Or they could have just neglected to write alternate lines for her, if the writer cares to comment.

[Icy Magebane]

Developer oversight... I didn't really give this much thought, as I assumed the programmers didn't bother to make a distinction between Hawke taking the girl as a slave or servant.

[Sajuro]

Filament wrote...

She just assumes all elves are slaves, or should be.

You shems are all racist!

[Macropodmum]

@ Icy Magebane ~ Yes I do believe that this is just the case and that most people would just go "meh" and forget about it. I guess it is just that feeling as I do about slavery it is a bone of contention for me.

@ Sajuro ~ Lol

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I never really thought of it as anything more than "You have brought an elven slave home? That is potentially dangerous!" Not "You are keeping a slave in our house! That is illegal!"

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 13 juillet 2011 - 06:56 .

[Macropodmum]

Point is once you make it clear she has a paid job she is not a slave. In fact, I would think that Bodhan running around as my personal (unpaid?) manservant (for saving his son which I didn't because Sandal has an uncanny knack for saving himself) would be more distasteful than for trying to help an elven woman break free from the bonds of slavery.

[LobselVith8]

Icy Magebane wrote...

Developer oversight... I didn't really give this much thought, as I assumed the programmers didn't bother to make a distinction between Hawke taking the girl as a slave or servant.

One of many, apparently.

[Macropodmum]

Macropodmum wrote...

laradenton wrote...

He, he, the mom refers to Fenris (after your Hawke had a hot night with him ).

P.S. Fenris!

Lol, still working on that this time around

Sigh .... Even after my hot (quick?) night with Fenris all she continues to say is the same thing about the slave.  Maybe she is already a zombie at this point...

[Gabey5]

she is still basically a slave..

[sonoko]

Macropodmum wrote...

Macropodmum wrote...

laradenton wrote...

He, he, the mom refers to Fenris (after your Hawke had a hot night with him ).

P.S. Fenris!

Lol, still working on that this time around

Sigh .... Even after my hot (quick?) night with Fenris all she continues to say is the same thing about the slave.  Maybe she is already a zombie at this point...

Leandra says that about Orana, not about Fenris. 

[Sylvianus]

Why Orana disappears in Act 3 ? Another bug ? Did you see her in your house in Acte 3 ?

She was my slave in Act 2. Then I never saw her again.

[Sylvianus]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Why Orana disappears in Act 3 ? Another bug ? Did you see her in your house in Acte 3 ?

She was my slave in Act 2. Then I never saw her again.

She's still there, just moves to a spot by a window on the second floor.

Oh, thanks.

[beckaliz]

Anyone else notice that Bodhan comments in Act 3 that Orana refuses to go outside? That's kind of depressing. So even if she's getting paid to work for Hawke, she is obviously not inclined to take advantage of her rise in "station".

[Rifneno]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

Anyone else notice that Bodhan comments in Act 3 that Orana refuses to go outside? That's kind of depressing. So even if she's getting paid to work for Hawke, she is obviously not inclined to take advantage of her rise in "station".

Really? Oh, no, the poort dear. Here I figured that my Hawke tried to ease her into the life of a free woman, but no such luck. At least Orana is treated well, but still

My thoughts exactly.  Lord this is a depressing game.  

[Sith Grey Warden]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

Anyone else notice that Bodhan comments in Act 3 that Orana refuses to go outside? That's kind of depressing. So even if she's getting paid to work for Hawke, she is obviously not inclined to take advantage of her rise in "station".

Really? Oh, no, the poor dear. Here I figured that my Hawke tried to ease her into the life of a free woman, but no such luck. At least Orana is treated well, but still

Now just imagine what happens to her after Hawke is forced to flee if you side with the mages.

[Macropodmum]

Well my Hawke wouldn't abandon her..I'm guessing she could have left with Bodhan and Sandal also. You would think that after 3 years of being with Hawke and being paid that she may have started to seek some sort of independence, after all that is why I gave her a job instead of just turning her loose.

[DRTJR]

I think Orana is still in the house but under the employ of Gamlen and Charade Amell.