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MeAndMySandvich wrote...

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Leliana is basically what happens when you pile up 20 female stereotypes and give the pile an obnoxious accent. So no.


and the other characters in Origins aren't.

Except for Wynne, they're worse.....


Yeah, Wynne is awesome, in combat and as a character. The others I actually don't mind as much as Leliana, because although they're basically all stock Bioware characters, their voices don't make me want to throw things at my computer.


Leliana's voice was great, there was warmth to it. Its unique. Its not nearly as good as say Tali, but Kempa did a good job.

Zervans is annoying however.

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Oh jeesus, you think the Annoying Accent Girl had a great voice?

I don't understand you people.

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xkg wrote...

No , thank you that is very bad idea.
Is she such deeeeep and interesting character? No she isn't.
She has her own DLC? Ok. SO lets make Shale protagonist in Da3.

Final verdict. No.


whose is a deeper character then?

Nobody in the series

And was Shale the PROTAGONIST in her DLC?

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txgoldrush wrote...

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And why did Bioware choose Leliana to have her own DLC where she is the star while the rest of the cast did not?


There was going to be others. One of the devs even said there was a plan to have a similar Alistair DLC where you played him when he first joins the Wardens. 

But then they decided to scrap their "2 years of DAO DLC" promise and make DA2 instead.


I can see why....the DAO DLC outside Leliana's Song (or the launch DLC) completely and utterly sucked.


Biased OP... Awakenings sucked compared to running around the Denerim marketplace?  LoL ... Witch Hunt sucked, but Golems, Awakening, and even Darkspawn Chronicles were better than Leliana's Song.  The story didn't even match in-game lore...  this is obvious fangirl nonsense.

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Icy Magebane wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

artsangel wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
And why did Bioware choose Leliana to have her own DLC where she is the star while the rest of the cast did not?


There was going to be others. One of the devs even said there was a plan to have a similar Alistair DLC where you played him when he first joins the Wardens. 

But then they decided to scrap their "2 years of DAO DLC" promise and make DA2 instead.


I can see why....the DAO DLC outside Leliana's Song (or the launch DLC) completely and utterly sucked.


Biased OP... Awakenings sucked compared to running around the Denerim marketplace?  LoL ... Witch Hunt sucked, but Golems, Awakening, and even Darkspawn Chronicles were better than Leliana's Song.  The story didn't even match in-game lore...  this is obvious fangirl nonsense.


Awakenings was an expansion, not a simple DLC. That expansion was rushed to.

Golems sucked, it had two main areas and more boring Deep Roads dungeon crawl...yuck.

Darkspawn Chronicles was horrendous and busted as well. Very stupid DLC.

Leliana's Song was far from a perfect DLC, but at least it had a good story. And the designers confirmed that Leliana is an unreliable narrator.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 13 juillet 2011 - 09:25 .


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She couldn't be any worse than Hawke.

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xkg wrote...

SO lets make Shale protagonist in Da3.


Make it happen, Bioware.

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I don't know that people will ever agree about the DLCs. Well, people can't really agree about whether or not either DA game was good (hopefully we're reaching an agree-to-disagree state though).

As for the OP's suggestion - I don't know that Leliana as the main protagonist for DA3 would work, for many of the reasons already stated (those specific to the divisiveness). Personally, I would love to see another DLC with her - something longer than Song. I think she is a wonderful character with a lot of depth. Following the story of someone with her past (assassin, Chantry sister, companion, etc) is just full of all sorts of RPG-goodness. But again, my opinion.

I don't know that Bioware has made a direct statement about never creating a game with a single female protagonist. It could be done, and it could probably be done quite well (kick*ss female PCs have been coming in to their own of late and have been quite popular). It just may not coincide with their plans, especially not for the DA universe. Part of the beauty of DA, thus far, has been the ability for the player to mold their character. The PC is not static (unless in a DLC) and allows for the player to personalize the journey more.

I wonder though, if a DA game in which you changed main protagonists per chapter/act would work. There was a bit of that in the battle in Denerim section of DA:O, but having an entire DA game where you changed up...? I'd be interested to see it pulled off (and then we could have Leliana as one of the characters), but I think many would cry foul.

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txgoldrush wrote...

xkg wrote...

No , thank you that is very bad idea.
Is she such deeeeep and interesting character? No she isn't.
She has her own DLC? Ok. SO lets make Shale protagonist in Da3.

Final verdict. No.


whose is a deeper character then?

Nobody in the series

And was Shale the PROTAGONIST in her DLC?


Deeper - Morrigan, Wynne, Alistair, Anders (tho i don't like him).
More interesting - pretty much everyone but Sten.

Her long speeches about Orlais and Marjolaine, hairs, flowers ... OMG that was more boring than watching chess.

So again. No thanks.

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If you're gonna have a Seeker protagonist, have Cassandra. The player's interaction with her was lower than Leliana so she can be molded to a main player character without as much deviaton from her stablished personality.
Plus, Cassandra is awesome.

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Would suck for me, ... some of my Lelianas are pretty dead ... or in case of DAII, ... undead.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Would suck for me, ... some of my Lelianas are pretty dead ... or in case of DAII, ... undead.


I'd like a quest killing Lelian for the second time in DA2.

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^ I'm with Xewaka on this. Plus some of my own ranting, if going with a voiced protagonist, go with a completely set character, and if that character has to be a seeker, go with Cassandra, I personally hate her, but, well, I think I could at least connect to her on some level.

Modifié par Tirfan, 13 juillet 2011 - 10:38 .


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Ringo12 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Would suck for me, ... some of my Lelianas are pretty dead ... or in case of DAII, ... undead.


I'd like a quest killing Lelian for the second time in DA2.


Or a DLC where you play an Andrastian Blood Mage (they don't know he's a blood mage of course!) set out to find the Sacred Urn of Ashes who (in case of Leliana's death/otherwise that Cult Leader) will have to necromance her to be able to enter the Gauntlet. Image IPB

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I would love to play as a Seeker in DA III, but not as Leliana.

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If Dragon Age 3 has ANY set protagonist, as in someones who's sex, appearance, class (I don't really see some sort of class morph as being better than being stuck with rogue only) and personality I cannot choose for myself, I won't bother buying it.

I'll just buy Witcher 2 or something.

Frankly I'll be hard pressed to get it if I can only be human again.

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Absafraginlootly wrote...

If Dragon Age 3 has ANY set protagonist, as in someones who's sex, appearance, class (I don't really see some sort of class morph as being better than being stuck with rogue only) and personality I cannot choose for myself, I won't bother buying it.

I'll just buy Witcher 2 or something.

Frankly I'll be hard pressed to get it if I can only be human again.


Pretty much the same. I won't buy it if Dragon Age 3 has a set protagonist.

I would make an exception if Leliana was, though.
I'd play if I could import my Dragon Age: Origins save and play as headless Leliana.

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Absolutely not, this is taking even more choice away from the player!
I also very much disagree with your opinion that Leliana "easily smokes the rest of DAO's cast in depth and range of character", after Ogren she was my least favourite character in Origins.  I found her annoying and preachy, and although I never killed her in game, I also left her in camp most of the time.

A big NO to this idea from me.

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Absafraginlootly wrote...
I'll just buy Witcher 2 or something.


Thing is Geralt is from a book. So he has more depth then any character in a Bioware game. An entire series of information on Geralt and even then his amnesia in the games allow for his personality to change and his decisions have meaningful impacts. 

Though I would never expect Bioware to try and emulate what CDProjekt has done with Geralt or Witcher I would like for the personality of your character to be changed by your decisions and not a meter. It would at least leave room for a custom made character.

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I never really understood why Leliana HAD to be resurrected, as someone else entirely could've simply been 'Sister Nightingale' instead of her.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 13 juillet 2011 - 11:34 .


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Icy Magebane wrote...

Biased OP... Awakenings sucked compared to running around the Denerim marketplace?  LoL ... Witch Hunt sucked, but Golems, Awakening, and even Darkspawn Chronicles were better than Leliana's Song.  The story didn't even match in-game lore...  this is obvious fangirl nonsense.


Spot on, although you could have worded that up to be less offensive. I get it you like Leliana OP, but making it out that your oppinions are the Holy Truth isn't the way to create a intelligent discussion in the interwebz.

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I always liked Leli. I'll buy DA3 with her as protagonist before I buy DA2 with Hawke as protagonist. :)

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No, because If I am her, I can't hump her.....

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Leliana is overrated, common preachy fool woman.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 13 juillet 2011 - 01:08 .


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****, that.