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[comrade8472]

Everything thread for why Toombs should return for ME3  


"He's a mad man"
"Toombs but You're dead I saw the thresher pull you under"... {paraphrased}


I would love to see Toombs return in ME3 just to see him steal an atlas and go crazy on Cerberus lackeys            and save Shepard   

Should have "special" dialog if sole survivor.


 And crazy idea that Toombs was the first "Lazerus"  "victim"  Since he says that when he woke up the scientists were happy that he had survived... and in one dialog option  in ME1 with sole survivor shepard says that he/she say him get pulled under by the thresher...

Had more earlier can't think of it now.
d) / thread for Toombs to be a squad member for one "mission" (prefer more) 


Feel free to put your own ideas down...
probably better ones also  

[Golden Owl]

Actually, I would really like to see him ally with Shep in ME3...has his own ship and crew, etc...I will be very disappointed if he is the "you should have killed me when you had the chance" character.

[comrade8472]

Golden Owl wrote...

Actually, I would really like to see him ally with Shep in ME3...has his own ship and crew, etc...I will be very disappointed if he is the "you should have killed me when you had the chance" character.

Yea agreed.
And he'll probably have the only mako in game 

[whywhywhywhy]

Agreed Golden Owl, agreed.

[RevanMaleExileFemale]

i support this

[Siansonea]

I'd love to see Toombs come back. And I hope he really takes Shepard to task for working with Cerberus, so that Shepard can make a series of dialog choices to explain/define the thought process that lead to working with Cerberus in the first place. Of course, if Toombs dies in ME1, then it's all for naught.

[bleetman]

Siansonea II wrote...

so that Shepard can make a series of dialog choices to explain/define the thought process that lead to working with Cerberus in the first place.

I'm not sure how far "because the Illusive Man said so" will really go, unfortunately.

I'd like to see him come back in some way or another. It might be interesting to see one of Shepard's previous swoop-in-and-save-the-day actions turning out to bite him/her in the ass for a change, but I'm a bit wary of degenerating him into "that guy I used to save in ME1 but now just let him shoot himself".

[Siansonea]

bleetman wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

so that Shepard can make a series of dialog choices to explain/define the thought process that lead to working with Cerberus in the first place.

I'm not sure how far "because the Illusive Man said so" will really go, unfortunately.

I'd like to see him come back in some way or another. It might be interesting to see one of Shepard's previous swoop-in-and-save-the-day actions turning out to bite him/her in the ass for a change, but I'm a bit wary of degenerating him into "that guy I used to save in ME1 but now just let him shoot himself".

Well, I do hope Shepard's Derp Moment is addressed somehow. I mean, who shrugs their shoulders and says "sure, I'll go against everything the Alliance and the Council hold dear and work for Cerberus, they sure seem to be making a good case even though they have a history of atrocities and it's OBVIOUS there's a lot they're not telling me." And then TIM springs the Horizon trap, and Shepard's all "oh, you naughty boy, TIM, you got me! What's my next assignment?" And then TIM springs the Collector ship trap, and Shepard's all "Oh, you zinged me again TIM! What's my next assignment?" Serious derpitude on Shepard's part. It's almost comical. That HAS to be addressed in ME3 somehow, it just has to. And I'd love it if it comes at the barrel of Corporal Toombs' gun.  

Modifié par Siansonea II, 14 juillet 2011 - 03:59 .

[Wynne]

I'd like to see Corporal Toombs, since assuming he's still alive at all, you're the only reason he is. Not interested in another whiny reaming out of Shepard, though.

...haven't seen any derpitude, considering Cerberus was a thousand times more permissive/helpful than the Council douchebags ever were and the Alliance didn't exactly fix the damned problem either.

Modifié par Wynne, 14 juillet 2011 - 05:50 .

[DWH1982]

I'd like to see Toombs in ME3 simply because my Shepard is a sole survivor, and I feel that story hasn't been finished yet.

I also endorse tying Toombs to the Lazarus project. That's a thought I've been having for some time now... that the squad that died on Akuze were early experiements in bringing people back to life.

It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Cerberus was interested in this tech before Shepard died. It could have other uses than bringing one person back. The way I see it, Toombs was "tortured" by being killed repeatedly and then brought back to life, so they could test the early technology. He was the first person to survive long term, though he's not very mentally stable as a result.

Of course, Shepard is told early in ME2 that the Lazarus project "only had one subject." But:

1. I think it's a stretch to assume Cerberus is being honest on that point.

2. The early stages of the research could very well have been called something other than the Lazarus Project. If this is the case, the early research from another project was taken and folded into the Lazarus Project, which focused entirely on bringing Shepard back, some time after Shepard died. Technically, Cerberus would be telling the truth - the Lazarus Project had only "one" subject - while failing to reveal that earlier projects laid the foundation for Lazarus by experimenting on other subjects.

[Golden Owl]

Siansonea II wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

so that Shepard can make a series of dialog choices to explain/define the thought process that lead to working with Cerberus in the first place.

I'm not sure how far "because the Illusive Man said so" will really go, unfortunately.

I'd like to see him come back in some way or another. It might be interesting to see one of Shepard's previous swoop-in-and-save-the-day actions turning out to bite him/her in the ass for a change, but I'm a bit wary of degenerating him into "that guy I used to save in ME1 but now just let him shoot himself".

Well, I do hope Shepard's Derp Moment is addressed somehow. I mean, who shrugs their shoulders and says "sure, I'll go against everything the Alliance and the Council hold dear and work for Cerberus, they sure seem to be making a good case even though they have a history of atrocities and it's OBVIOUS there's a lot they're not telling me." And then TIM springs the Horizon trap, and Shepard's all "oh, you naughty boy, TIM, you got me! What's my next assignment?" And then TIM springs the Collector ship trap, and Shepard's all "Oh, you zinged me again TIM! What's my next assignment?" Serious derpitude on Shepard's part. It's almost comical. That HAS to be addressed in ME3 somehow, it just has to. And I'd love it if it comes at the barrel of Corporal Toombs' gun.  

I would love to see Toombs take Shep to task about Cerberus and depending on Sheps responses, that leading to Toombs either allying with Shep or trying to kill Shep.

[Golden Owl]

DWH1982 wrote...

I'd like to see Toombs in ME3 simply because my Shepard is a sole survivor, and I feel that story hasn't been finished yet.

I also endorse tying Toombs to the Lazarus project. That's a thought I've been having for some time now... that the squad that died on Akuze were early experiements in bringing people back to life.

It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Cerberus was interested in this tech before Shepard died. It could have other uses than bringing one person back. The way I see it, Toombs was "tortured" by being killed repeatedly and then brought back to life, so they could test the early technology. He was the first person to survive long term, though he's not very mentally stable as a result.

Of course, Shepard is told early in ME2 that the Lazarus project "only had one subject." But:

1. I think it's a stretch to assume Cerberus is being honest on that point.

2. The early stages of the research could very well have been called something other than the Lazarus Project. If this is the case, the early research from another project was taken and folded into the Lazarus Project, which focused entirely on bringing Shepard back, some time after Shepard died. Technically, Cerberus would be telling the truth - the Lazarus Project had only "one" subject - while failing to reveal that earlier projects laid the foundation for Lazarus by experimenting on other subjects.

I have thought about this also and have also wondered on occasion if Cerberus may have had a hand in Sheps death too....I remain suspicious.

[Siansonea]

I'm suspicious about EVERYTHING Cerberus does/has done/is doing.

[comrade8472]

 I really hope that Toombs actually makes an appearence and has a good squad/ team. (in ME1 his mercs were good no matter the difficulty setting... on casual they were elite rank... on insanity "minibosses")

Hoping for more than just a letter like in ME2.    (basically I hate cerberus they are going too pay... what are you doing...?)


Would like where if shepard was "sole survivor"... toombs and shep visit Akuze to visit the site to remember old friends... 
or something like that... they don't even have to go to Akuze... mabey a bar 

• The war hero had Elsnos Haliat 
• Renegade had Major Kyle 
• Sole survivor had Corporal Toombs

 {now what was my point it seems to have gotten lost if you find it could you post it thanks)] 

[comrade8472]

played ME1 tonight again and did Toombs mission again

choose to shoot the scientist myself and the dialog that he was right that Shep got off easy...
then when leaving that text screen comes up that says that he won't be left behind again comes on screen.
Is that going to be reflected in ME2 and also in ME3?

Really hope Toombs gets face time in ME3. one of fav characters

[JedTed]

I support this. I really hope that your not forced to kill him just because he found out Shepard was working with Cerberus.

There are plenty of choices and dialog options throughout ME2 that tell people, "hey i may work for Cerberus but that doesn't mean i LIKE em." I never liked the Council in ME1 but i still reported back to them after every mission.

[Dariustwinblade]

I killed him for the lolz.

[Willowhugger]

Well, I do hope Shepard's Derp Moment is addressed somehow. I mean, who shrugs their shoulders and says "sure, I'll go against everything the Alliance and the Council hold dear and work for Cerberus, they sure seem to be making a good case even though they have a history of atrocities and it's OBVIOUS there's a lot they're not telling me." And then TIM springs the Horizon trap, and Shepard's all "oh, you naughty boy, TIM, you got me! What's my next assignment?" And then TIM springs the Collector ship trap, and Shepard's all "Oh, you zinged me again TIM! What's my next assignment?" Serious derpitude on Shepard's part. It's almost comical. That HAS to be addressed in ME3 somehow, it just has to. And I'd love it if it comes at the barrel of Corporal Toombs' gun.  

"Millions are dying and they're the only game in town!" isn't good enough?

[Agamo45]

My Shepard doesn't take threats lightly. If Toombs gets in the way he will be dealt with like any enemy. I have no patience for self-righteous fools endangering the mission.

[ladyvader]

My lasted Shepard is a Sole Survivor and allowed Toombs to kill the scientist then Toombs then killed himself. Toombs is now at peace. This Shepard is in a bad place right now. Waking up in a Cerberus facility wasn't a very good thing.

So don't worry Toombs. Shepard will get Cerberus for you..

[Negam]

Toombs easily tops my list of favorite NPCs. Yeah, I want him back. He always lives in my playthroughs.

[PauseforEffect]

Would be awesome to find out that Toombs was a candidate for the Lazarus project. I very much want him to be around in ME3 for my sole-survivor to run into. Hopefully, with the right persuasion, even convince him not to shoot her and go on a slaughter run of Cerberus agents.

[Eccentrica Gallumbits]

I really hope they finish his story. I think he's quite mad and there's nothing like a loose cannon. Let's hope Toombs doesn't get together with the Purgatory serial killer escapee. They might make a formidable enemy for Shepard.

[dgcatanisiri]

Bringing Toombs back would be interesting... But honestly, I have a difficult time taking the option to keep him alive in ME1. On Shepard's side, I like it as a moment of failure, unable to save this one person, someone who, if a Sole Survivor, was one of his friends. On Toombs', he gets to have peace and freedom from the horrors of Cerberus' experiments. Something about that feels more satisfying to me than having Shepard save him and bring the doctor to a trial.

[PauseforEffect]

True, but if he lives, it's one more failure on Cerberus' part. One more experiment of theirs that goes hunting for their heads. And I welcome any who go after Cerberus for the damage they inflict.