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[Kaiser Shepard]

Medhia Nox wrote...

If I were an ancient race determined to wipe out all organic life - I'd have a means of self-destructing the vessel where my slave race of space 7 Eleven workers are spending their days making the first human slushie.

You know - because I'm vastly intelligent and have been at this for millions of years. One tends to pick up on some things.

Unless - I wanted the organics to steal my giant juicer for some reason.

I certainly would rather they spend their resources trying to figure out how to turn on the blender - and have a fleet protecting a giant bee hive in space - than doing something important, like protecting homeworlds.

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And - I certainly wouldn't have "tech that could destroy me" on the ship where I have my slave-race of robot Protheans... and my giant juicer.

You do realize we're taking about the same race that devized a complex trap but failed to implement an "activate from the other side-button", don't you?

[jedierick]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

jedierick wrote...

Keeping the base presents the player with the unknown, just like destroying it. Nobody knows what the collectors base would have revealed, or if it would reveal more than what EDI found while connected to the collectors ship. Keeping it presented more of a risk than destroying it for me.

Bollocks. I cna't believe the stupidity of this argument.

The base was used to BUILD A REAPER. The things one can pull from it are homongous for that very reason. The thing you cna pull out of  a computer in a few minutes are insignificant compared to that.
The base is, in essence,  a friggin shipyard. To get ones hand on the materials and machienery, and all the lovely reaper tech can very well tip the balance of the conflict.

And no matter how bad Cerberus MIGHT screw it up, nothing can be worse than total anihilation by the reapers.
So yes, blowing the base up = stupid.

Well Bollocks right back at ya. I cant bevlive the stupidity of your statements. 

An AI such as EDI works light years faster than any team of humans could. So to say that she couldnt gather data from the both the base and the ship she was connected to is a bunch of boshdat.  Humans would take weeks researching and gathering data that she could get in a few minutes. And just becasue the base COULD, not necessarily WILL, provide an benfit  shouldnt negate the fact that TIM screwed up with the derelict reaper.

I destroyed the base becasue I dont think TIM or Cerberus has what it takes to get anything usefull out of it, not in any time frame that would help me. And I dont trust him, regardless of what he has done for me. Seeing as though cerberus is indoctrinated in ME3, I guess my line of thining was correct, cause if Cerberus allowed itself to be indoctrinated some other way, without the base, then they would have screwed up the base for sure.

If the base coudl build a reaper, who is to say what else it coudl do, destroying the base was the right choice.

[jedierick]

Double post, sorry.

Modifié par jedierick, 22 juillet 2011 - 03:59 .

[Dave of Canada]

Arcian wrote...

I'm thinking about putting a neon sign over this thread that says "Den of Delusions".

I think it would blend well with the contents.

Depends, do we get a fancy logo and can kick out people who don't want to participate in any reasonable discussion and just want to troll?

[Dave of Canada]

Arcian wrote...

You already have the Cerberus logo. Why would you need a new one?

Because we're forming a new club, I'm already in the Cerberus club.

[Medhia Nox]

@Saphra Deden - I can't wait for your favoritism posts when you find out that people who destroyed the base don't get punished.

"Oh, that's so stoopid!"

We're right back to my original assertion about people who think only they are right.

[Medhia Nox]

You claiming that it's indisputable does not make it so - I hope you can see that.

[Medhia Nox]

It's called foreshadowing - it's a literary technique.

[Fixers0]

After paging of discussing of what perhaps is the most easist decision to make in a game, could somebody please explain to my what the point is in:

1. Using technology from creatures that thus far have brought nothing but doom and destruction for every other species?

2. Suporting terrorists in general?

Modifié par Fixers0, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:31 .

[Medhia Nox]

@Fixers0 - several arguments for keeping the base are valid.

Terrorism would take second place to galactic genocide for most people.

As for the technology - they would point you to the Thanix weaponry.

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As for metagaming -

Many people who are VERY good at their jobs use something called "intuition".

There's really no science behind the concept - and yet, daily people make intuitive decisions that lead them to success.

You can say luck - I would disagree.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:35 .

[Dave of Canada]

And we're back using the "terrorist" label? It's been discussed 4-5 times by now.

[Medhia Nox]

That's your prerogative Saphra - but many wildly successful people do think, at least sometimes, with their gut.

I imagine if you talked to many soldiers - thinking "with their gut" is a common activity.

Any people who have seen military action want to chime in there? ((Of course, I have no way of knowing if you've actually ever seen military action - but, I'll play along.))

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I also think it's a necessary trait among leaders.

Of course - you'll turn it into: "That's all they do - that's rediculous!" 

That's not what I'm saying - what I'm saying is, that sometimes, you get a feeling about something. Call it - higher sub-conscious reasoning if you want to make it "sciencey" - and those feelings are translated, but the reasoning is not.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:42 .

[Fixers0]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Fixers0 - several arguments for keep the base are valid.

Terrorism would take second place to galactic genocide for most people.

As for the technology - they would point you to the Thanix weaponry.

Such as?

Placing weapons in hands of  terrorists with very questionable motives without even an assurence that they will use such weapons not to just enforce their own political agenda is uselly a bad thing to do.

Thanix cannon is optional and i personally i always refuse to outfit my ship with such technology.

Modifié par Fixers0, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:44 .

[Fixers0]

Dave of Canada wrote...

And we're back using the "terrorist" label? It's been discussed 4-5 times by now.

How would you otherwise describe a group that attacks Goverment troops?