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[InvincibleHero]

How do you think she would have turned out? I think given she had a crusading absent mother she likely would be a high ranking Eclipse merc given her intelligence and will. Something less than law abiding seems to be in the cards as she would likely rebel against what her mother stands for. Also the violence her mother is capable of has to make an impression on the child.

Another Q why haven't the asari been able to cure it? I mean Benzia can wall off a piece of her personality, yet they cannot prevent an A-Y from melding with someone just by giving a selective biotic or surgical lobotomy.

Modifié par InvincibleHero, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:07 .

[100k]

Does it matter? Her voice arouses the hell outta me! Ardat or not, I'd probably give into temptation and bang her for the first and last time.

Modifié par 100k, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:06 .

[Raiil]

I highly doubt she'd be as we know her now. Maybe an asari commando or an Aria-in-training. Part of her personality seems to have been set pre-diagnosis- free, strong-willed- but the addiction to melding is obviously a post-diagnosis issue that has shaped her.

Apparently the symptoms don't manifest until it's too late, I think it's said. It's possible that given the asari method of reproduction- randomisation of genetic code- it's simply impossible to pin down what alleles/chromosomes are the marks of the disease.

[thatguy212]

Not 100% on this but didn't Samara become a Justicar only after Morinth had escaped? so if she wasn't an Ardat-Yakshi then they would have just been a happy family

[ladyvader]

InvincibleHero wrote...

How do you think she would have turned out? I think given she had a crusading absent mother she likely would be a high ranking Eclipse merc given her intelligence and will. Something less than law abiding seems to be in the crads as she would likely rebel against what her mother stands for. Also the violence her mother is capable of has to make an impression on the child.

Another Q why haven't the asari been able to cure it? I mean Benzia call wall off a piece of her personbality yet they cannot prevent an A-Y from melding with someone just by giving a selective biotic or surgical lobotomy.

Samara only became a Justicar because of Morinth.  And we don't know what went on when Samara was raising them, you are now just assuming things were bad.

[InvincibleHero]

ladyvader wrote...

[Samara only became a Justicar because of Morinth.  And we don't know what went on when Samara was raising them, you are now just assuming things were bad.

Are you sure about that? I got the impression she made a life-long commitment to being a justicar. She also had 2 other AY offspring. I am unsure whether that was with the same asari or different parents. Obviously not the motherly type as she'd rather hunt down and destroy her daughter rather than visit her other two daughters isolated away from everyone.

Justicar don't seem to be a we hunt A-Y type organization. They seem more we enforce societal mores with strict punishment to deter the average citizen from straying to ubnseemly behavior. Perhaps she is rogue or given much latittude to be judge and jury as she sees fit.

I'm making another playthrough with an engineer on insanity so I'll defintiely listen more intently once I recruit her.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Well if she weren't an A-Y, there'd be no Justicar Samara and there'd be no reason for Morinth to be the predatorial b*tch we all know. And by that do you mean if she and her sisters weren't A-Y or just her? Because if it were just her, I could see her trying to assemble a team to free her sisters from confinement. Otherwise they'd be a pretty normal pureblood Asari family, and the stigma doesn't even seem that bad.

[pablodurando]

She would be one hot Asari who happens to have two ardat-yakshi sisters. She would be travelling the galaxy in her maiden stage and Shepard would somehow find her and romance her. Epic win.

[Siansonea]

The only reason Samara became a Justicar is because Morinth RAN. Rila and Falere accepted seclusion, so if Morinth was not afflicted with ardat-yakshi syndrome, she'd still be going by the name Mirala, and Samara would no doubt be a doting mother to her. Samara obviously cares a great deal about her family, and would not have even cut ties with Rila and Falere if she hadn't taken her Justicar oaths. I doubt Samara would have allowed Mirala to become an Eclipse mercenary, though she probably would have encouraged her to learn the art of combat. And Mirala's entire personality would be different, since Morinth's personality is largely due to the addictive nature of ardat-yakshi syndrome and the clandestine, fugitive nature of her existence.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 15 juillet 2011 - 05:29 .

[Trakarg]

InvincibleHero wrote...

How do you think she would have turned out? I think given she had a crusading absent mother she likely would be a high ranking Eclipse merc given her intelligence and will. Something less than law abiding seems to be in the cards as she would likely rebel against what her mother stands for. Also the violence her mother is capable of has to make an impression on the child.

Another Q why haven't the asari been able to cure it? I mean Benzia can wall off a piece of her personality, yet they cannot prevent an A-Y from melding with someone just by giving a selective biotic or surgical lobotomy.

Samara only became a justicar after morinth went all crazy.  I imagine they had quite a good family life, as morinth's sisters seemed to love their mother very much in the shadow broker dossiers.

[ladyvader]

InvincibleHero wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

[Samara only became a Justicar because of Morinth.  And we don't know what went on when Samara was raising them, you are now just assuming things were bad.

Are you sure about that? I got the impression she made a life-long commitment to being a justicar. She also had 2 other AY offspring. I am unsure whether that was with the same asari or different parents. Obviously not the motherly type as she'd rather hunt down and destroy her daughter rather than visit her other two daughters isolated away from everyone.

Justicar don't seem to be a we hunt A-Y type organization. They seem more we enforce societal mores with strict punishment to deter the average citizen from straying to ubnseemly behavior. Perhaps she is rogue or given much latittude to be judge and jury as she sees fit.

I'm making another playthrough with an engineer on insanity so I'll defintiely listen more intently once I recruit her.

No, she became a Jusicar when Morinth ran at the age of 40.  She's only been a Jusicar for 400 years.  That is how long Morinth been on the run.

This is from Mass Effect Wikia:
Two of Samara's daughters, Falere and Rila, chose to live their lives in isolation and comfort. Her third daughter, Morinth,
whom Samara described as the "smartest and bravest" of the three,
refused to go into seclusion and fled, beginning a spree of murder and
violence. Recognizing her daughter's growing addiction to killing her
mates, Samara gave up her worldly possessions, swore herself to the
Code, and became a justicar.

[Battlepope190]

If she wasn't, she would be a lot less interesting.

[Kadzin]

Battlepope190 wrote...

If she wasn't, she would be a lot less interesting.

exactly what I thought

[Homebound]

Morinth would probably be a normal matriarch in training back on the asari homeworld. leading a happy, healthy, though parentally-neglected life.

[ladyvader]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Morinth would probably be a normal matriarch in training back on the asari homeworld. leading a happy, healthy, though parentally-neglected life.

No, Samara seems like she was a good parent.  And Mornith was only 440 years old.  

[silentassassin264]

Morinth was always the smart one...too smart according to Samara. I am pretty sure she would become something like the Joker on Omega versus Garrus' Batman.

[ladyvader]

silentassassin264 wrote...

Morinth was always the smart one...too smart according to Samara. I am pretty sure she would become something like the Joker on Omega versus Garrus' Batman.

FTW

[Homebound]

ladyvader wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Morinth would probably be a normal matriarch in training back on the asari homeworld. leading a happy, healthy, though parentally-neglected life.

No, Samara seems like she was a good parent.  And Mornith was only 440 years old.  

she'd be a background character is what im saying. like that asari stripper in the citadel during that salarian's bachelor party.

[jtsherrard]

thatguy212 wrote...

Not 100% on this but didn't Samara become a Justicar only after Morinth had escaped? so if she wasn't an Ardat-Yakshi then they would have just been a happy family

Yes, it was because her daughter ran that she became a justicar. Samara felt responible for all of her daughters being Ardat-yakshi so she became reclusive mentally and emotionally. She even was a merc in her youth, Morinth always was the bravest and smartest, but with the Ardat-Yakshi trait, we cant predict if her intelligence and bravery were due to her latent predatory nature. It, unfortunately, truely defines her.

[Goneaviking]

If Morinth wasn't an A-Y she'd probably have become some other kind of tearaway asari kid. Become a mercenary for awhile until she got bored with, or got killed, and then settled down when she hit matron stage and felt like getting respectable.

A random bystander in other words. Samara too.

[Flamewielder]

Precisely. Had Morinth been a normal child, Samara would have enjoyed her matronhood with her lifemate, and likely been able to visit her other 2 A-Y daughters in whatever "asylum" dangerous A-Y decide to live. Morinth's decision to run was the sole motivation that made her join the Order in the first place.

And, from the items list found in the SB dossiers, her daughters loved their mother and seemed happy with her, until the diagnosis ruined everything.

Their would never have been a Justicar Samara, had Morinth not been an A-Y. Morinth would have enjoyed her maidenhood, spilling her wild oats, perhaps enjoying a stint as a merc (like her mother before her) before settling down.

[PrinceLionheart]

Flamewielder wrote...

Their would never have been a Justicar Samara, had Morinth not been an A-Y. Morinth would have enjoyed her maidenhood, spilling her wild oats, perhaps enjoying a stint as a merc (like her mother before her) before settling down.

This thread has been informative for me. It kinda punches another hole in the "It was Samara's fault Morinth is the way she is" defense people use.

But seriously, a non-AY Morinth would've probably been Aria's apprentice/Starscream.

[shepskisaac]

She would prolly be normal. And 10 times less fun at the same time.

[PhatSeeJay]

Then we wouldn't even know of her by name. She would just be a daughter of Samara's.