Is it me or did the reapers come off in me1 of being these super powered demi-gods, that could kill you with their mind [exaggeration]. They seemed like infinitley complicated beings of unknown origins, as if they existed since the creation of the universe and were spewed forth by black holes and super novas. Now after completeing me2 it seems pretty cliche the whole " harvesting humans to reproduce" and especially with arrival they seemed pretty pissed off they can't enter our galaxy 2 years earlier ( by the way WTF was that i finish the main story and the reapers are like a billion light years away and i start arrival and their like "BAM we're HEAR!" thank god shepard checked his mail, am I right?) They have the whole cliche we made the protheans into something resembleing halos flood, and they have the "WE MUST WIPE OUT ALL ORGANIC LIFE" cliche. And i checked masseffect.wikia and they say that the reapers are AI, that seems a bit different from the infinatly complicated reapers of me1. I felt like the geth deserved that whole synthetic superiority motif, but know the geth are merely pawns to the increasingly dull reapers. I'm sure their will be a couple "OHhhhhh now i get it moments" in me3 for me, i hope to god there are. I saw some of the reaper fight footage in me3 trailers and i was like WTF a railgun cripples this omnipetent reaper. Its like how in halo 2 a sacrab tank was like a major level to destroy it and in halo 3 its hardly a challenge (forgive me for all the halo references) i don't know i hope theirs more to it then me2 lets on.
I have no problems with the dramatic elements of mass effect the stories great untill you disect it like most great sci-fi storys such as avatar and star wars.
Did anyone else notice a change in the reapers as well as the core story (becoming less about mystery and our place in the galaxy)
ALSO I hope to god that at least most life is destroyed in the galaxy if not all, and the remaining life must hide from reapers (sorta like..........damn I'm drawing a blank or the name of the movie/game) cus if the reapers cant destroy all life they were greatly exaggerated. Because i thought me1 was about stopping the reapers because if they came no matter what all life would die out, regardless if you had 5 years prepare such as shepard did.
The Reapers are so SIMPLE now
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 09:39
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Kazzorswan wrote...
Is it me or did the reapers come off in me1 of being these super powered demi-gods, that could kill you with their mind [exaggeration]. They seemed like infinitley complicated beings of unknown origins, as if they existed since the creation of the universe and were spewed forth by black holes and super novas. Now after completeing me2 it seems pretty cliche the whole " harvesting humans to reproduce" and especially with arrival they seemed pretty pissed off they can't enter our galaxy 2 years earlier ( by the way WTF was that i finish the main story and the reapers are like a billion light years away and i start arrival and their like "BAM we're HEAR!" thank god shepard checked his mail, am I right?) They have the whole cliche we made the protheans into something resembleing halos flood, and they have the "WE MUST WIPE OUT ALL ORGANIC LIFE" cliche. And i checked masseffect.wikia and they say that the reapers are AI, that seems a bit different from the infinatly complicated reapers of me1. I felt like the geth deserved that whole synthetic superiority motif, but know the geth are merely pawns to the increasingly dull reapers. I'm sure their will be a couple "OHhhhhh now i get it moments" in me3 for me, i hope to god there are. I saw some of the reaper fight footage in me3 trailers and i was like WTF a railgun cripples this omnipetent reaper. Its like how in halo 2 a sacrab tank was like a major level to destroy it and in halo 3 its hardly a challenge (forgive me for all the halo references) i don't know i hope theirs more to it then me2 lets on.
I have no problems with the dramatic elements of mass effect the stories great untill you disect it like most great sci-fi storys such as avatar and star wars.
Did anyone else notice a change in the reapers as well as the core story (becoming less about mystery and our place in the galaxy)
ALSO I hope to god that at least most life is destroyed in the galaxy if not all, and the remaining life must hide from reapers (sorta like..........damn I'm drawing a blank or the name of the movie/game) cus if the reapers cant destroy all life they were greatly exaggerated. Because i thought me1 was about stopping the reapers because if they came no matter what all life would die out, regardless if you had 5 years prepare such as shepard did.
well, since you mentioned Star Wars...the invincible empire was beaten by ewoks and an emperor's flunky who we were told could never turn back from the dark side because he was consumed by it. Sounds like the same thing to me.
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 09:45
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Lapis Lazuli wrote...
Kazzorswan wrote...
Is it me or did the reapers come off in me1 of being these super powered demi-gods, that could kill you with their mind [exaggeration]. They seemed like infinitley complicated beings of unknown origins, as if they existed since the creation of the universe and were spewed forth by black holes and super novas. Now after completeing me2 it seems pretty cliche the whole " harvesting humans to reproduce" and especially with arrival they seemed pretty pissed off they can't enter our galaxy 2 years earlier ( by the way WTF was that i finish the main story and the reapers are like a billion light years away and i start arrival and their like "BAM we're HEAR!" thank god shepard checked his mail, am I right?) They have the whole cliche we made the protheans into something resembleing halos flood, and they have the "WE MUST WIPE OUT ALL ORGANIC LIFE" cliche. And i checked masseffect.wikia and they say that the reapers are AI, that seems a bit different from the infinatly complicated reapers of me1. I felt like the geth deserved that whole synthetic superiority motif, but know the geth are merely pawns to the increasingly dull reapers. I'm sure their will be a couple "OHhhhhh now i get it moments" in me3 for me, i hope to god there are. I saw some of the reaper fight footage in me3 trailers and i was like WTF a railgun cripples this omnipetent reaper. Its like how in halo 2 a sacrab tank was like a major level to destroy it and in halo 3 its hardly a challenge (forgive me for all the halo references) i don't know i hope theirs more to it then me2 lets on.
I have no problems with the dramatic elements of mass effect the stories great untill you disect it like most great sci-fi storys such as avatar and star wars.
Did anyone else notice a change in the reapers as well as the core story (becoming less about mystery and our place in the galaxy)
ALSO I hope to god that at least most life is destroyed in the galaxy if not all, and the remaining life must hide from reapers (sorta like..........damn I'm drawing a blank or the name of the movie/game) cus if the reapers cant destroy all life they were greatly exaggerated. Because i thought me1 was about stopping the reapers because if they came no matter what all life would die out, regardless if you had 5 years prepare such as shepard did.
well, since you mentioned Star Wars...the invincible empire was beaten by ewoks and an emperor's flunky who we were told could never turn back from the dark side because he was consumed by it. Sounds like the same thing to me.
Hmmmmmmm........... let me try something
well, since you mentioned MASS EFFECT...the invincible REAPERS was
beaten by ORGANICS. THE REAPERS who we were told could never COME back from the dark SPACE because the CITADEL was NOT ACTIVATED Sounds like
the same thing to me.
Doesn't it?
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 09:50
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We already get to know from ME1 that the Reapers intent is to wipe out every organic life in the galaxy, that wasn't new knowledge acquired in ME2.
In that railgun footage, you're aware of that the Reaper was crippled by an orbital strike from an orbiting fleet, and not the gun?
I think that for the first time in all these cycles of extinctions, the organic life in the galaxy has a chance against the Reapers, why? Well for the first time, they're not taken by surprise, and they can still use the relays as means of transportation. Now it's still possible that none of this will matter and the Reapers will win anyways, but it's better to go down fighting than to just get slaughtered.
In that railgun footage, you're aware of that the Reaper was crippled by an orbital strike from an orbiting fleet, and not the gun?
I think that for the first time in all these cycles of extinctions, the organic life in the galaxy has a chance against the Reapers, why? Well for the first time, they're not taken by surprise, and they can still use the relays as means of transportation. Now it's still possible that none of this will matter and the Reapers will win anyways, but it's better to go down fighting than to just get slaughtered.
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 09:53
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I don't see how its possible the protheans were the only out of god knows how many organincs to leave some kind of archive or record of the reapers. But even so th reapers shouldn't need suprise if their as amazing as they let on in me1elitecom wrote...
We already get to know from ME1 that the Reapers intent is to wipe out every organic life in the galaxy, that wasn't new knowledge acquired in ME2.
In that railgun footage, you're aware of that the Reaper was crippled by an orbital strike from an orbiting fleet, and not the gun?
I think that for the first time in all these cycles of extinctions, the organic life in the galaxy has a chance against the Reapers, why? Well for the first time, they're not taken by surprise, and they can still use the relays as means of transportation. Now it's still possible that none of this will matter and the Reapers will win anyways, but it's better to go down fighting than to just get slaughtered.
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 10:02
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Kazzorswan wrote...
I don't see how its possible the protheans were the only out of god knows how many organincs to leave some kind of archive or record of the reapers. But even so th reapers shouldn't need suprise if their as amazing as they let on in me1
There might be records even though the Reapers are very thorough with their doings. Though some thing evade them, for example the theories Liara have when you first find here. However never before have the Reapers been stopped from using the Citadel relay. This is the first cycle where the Keepers have been stopped from carrying out that function due to Prothean tampering. You learn that from Vigil when you speak to him.
True enough, as I said none of this might matter, the Reapers probably numbering in more than thousands of ships are a formidable force, it might not matter anyways, but again it's better to go down fighting than doing nothing.
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Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 10:18
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Yes, I agree with the general sentiment.
The mystery has been made somewhat mundane, what with Harbinger's talking, human smoothies, collectors, and so on...
But I can't really make a fair judgement until next march - hopefully there might be a few interesting twists and turns that elevate this to more than the usual fight for survival (that is sort of stale IMO).
Also we have to remember the writers are human, and trying to explain the motives for something that is supposedly "beyond our comprehension" isn't really possible.
But yes, I hope/expect to see a lot more than a simple and cliched war aginst the reapers...
The mystery has been made somewhat mundane, what with Harbinger's talking, human smoothies, collectors, and so on...
But I can't really make a fair judgement until next march - hopefully there might be a few interesting twists and turns that elevate this to more than the usual fight for survival (that is sort of stale IMO).
Also we have to remember the writers are human, and trying to explain the motives for something that is supposedly "beyond our comprehension" isn't really possible.
But yes, I hope/expect to see a lot more than a simple and cliched war aginst the reapers...
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Posté 16 juillet 2011 - 03:58
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I never really expected the Reapers to be the invincible machines, but thought that Sovereign was just putting that forward because he was a blowhard. You also knew that the Reapers were AI from the start, since they are machines and also intelligent.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 09:13
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"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."
Really though, what you have to remember is that the Reapers have been doing this for a very long time. To question their power is ridiculous. They are extremely dangerous, and they know it. They also know that if every species in the galaxy is unified in defeating them, they will have a fight on their hand they would rather not want to be involved with.
And that orbital strike didn't even take down the Reaper in the trailer, just stunned it.
The real issue here is that you are taking them for their word. As if the concept of claiming to be capable of entirely annihilating your enemy is a foreign concept. Countries, armies, and men have been doing that forever. And with the Reapers' track record, they can boast.
More millions of years they have systematically brought the end to every civilization that has ever risen beyond the space flight stage.
One Reaper was able to hold its own against an entire human fleet, to the point where they considered retreating.
They have placed the pieces to orchestrate their success.
The ability to wipe their existence from any records. The only reason the Protheans were able to warn us was because of Ilos.
They also don't want to fight a galactic war if they don't want to. Simply having the abilities to wipe our your enemies isn't enough. If you can cripple them before the fight even begins, the war is that much easier.
I can kill ants all day long with my foot, but I don't want to. That's effort wasted, and time consuming. Instead, I'll lay down ant poisons and traps so that I do nothing but they still die. Similar concept. Having the abilities to battle a fleet does not mean you must exercise it if subverting combat is that much more preferable to your goals.
Really though, what you have to remember is that the Reapers have been doing this for a very long time. To question their power is ridiculous. They are extremely dangerous, and they know it. They also know that if every species in the galaxy is unified in defeating them, they will have a fight on their hand they would rather not want to be involved with.
And that orbital strike didn't even take down the Reaper in the trailer, just stunned it.
The real issue here is that you are taking them for their word. As if the concept of claiming to be capable of entirely annihilating your enemy is a foreign concept. Countries, armies, and men have been doing that forever. And with the Reapers' track record, they can boast.
More millions of years they have systematically brought the end to every civilization that has ever risen beyond the space flight stage.
One Reaper was able to hold its own against an entire human fleet, to the point where they considered retreating.
They have placed the pieces to orchestrate their success.
The ability to wipe their existence from any records. The only reason the Protheans were able to warn us was because of Ilos.
They also don't want to fight a galactic war if they don't want to. Simply having the abilities to wipe our your enemies isn't enough. If you can cripple them before the fight even begins, the war is that much easier.
I can kill ants all day long with my foot, but I don't want to. That's effort wasted, and time consuming. Instead, I'll lay down ant poisons and traps so that I do nothing but they still die. Similar concept. Having the abilities to battle a fleet does not mean you must exercise it if subverting combat is that much more preferable to your goals.
