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[Ceridwen]

 I get an uncomfortable Ser Jory vibe from this picture.
Maybe it's just his face. I DUNNO.

Actually, I think it is his face. Something's off about it. Like Isabela's pre-game look. Or perhaps staring at Sheploo's glorious visage simply ruined all other pixel-hewn men for me. /weeps uncontrollably

Modifié par kwintessa, 16 juillet 2011 - 06:28 .

[Fault Girl]

ZeroCrewX wrote...

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I agree, people seem to think they know everything even though they have never lived it. A game does not reflect real-life scenarios in the army etc, no game really does. Sure it shows the action etc but not the emotional strength one need to endure such a task. Games aren't RL. Also I would love to see what some poster's look like who call PC's ugly.

Some of the comments on this thread are stupid. People shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. Simple as. Knowing this from experience.

I like his look, I don't care if other's don't agree that's what an opinion is, doesn't it make it wrong or stupid. I respect their views, why can't they respect other's without bashing?

[MonkeyKab00m]

Its kinda funny how insecure some of you assclowns are. Oh he's gay. Oh he must be a roider. Getting worked up over a video game no less. Between military and MMA, I've come across plenty from the casual exerciser to total meatheads. There is nothing at all abnormal about his build. Depending on your MOS you are give sometimes up to 2 hours a day of your duty time to go work out (minus days of extended training missions). Depending on your MOS you are given a diet to follow (the main aspect of getting "ripped"). Build muscles in a gym, but get your 6pack in the kitchen. The shirt is tight. But honestly most of those cheap undershirts they sell in the BX/PX or military clothing are made from that crappy, really thin layered, cotton that sticks to you. They never really make them above XL. They're cheap, so they can be trashed when you mess em up in the field. His looks no different other than its not regulation color. My only problem is the fohawk. Someone get some clippers and get this man within regs!

[Confused-Shepard]

Dunstan wrote...

ZeroCrewX wrote...

100k wrote...

Does it really matter? 3/4 of this forum thinks that they know everything about everything.

Ask them about ME3, and they'll rattle off reasons why characters we have only seen tiny glimpses of are bad characters (Ash and Vega for example). Most of this is based on appearance, but half the members on this forum are so arrogant, they feel they've it all figured out.

Ask them about who their Shepard is, and many of them respond with a "My Shepard is a soldier, therefore (s)he doesn't _____ and ___________ because soldiers are all about professionalism!" *hint hint* Most of them haven't met actual soldiers. 

Ask them about the developers, and they rant off reasons why Bioware has gone to the dogs. "Derp, look at Miranda derp look at DAII". 

In the end, nobody will be happy until we see these new features, characters, and elements at work. The difference is, the smart people on this board don't go around stating their opinions as fact. The dumb masses, however, troll you until you want to punch something, while remaining completely genuine in their perception. Seriously, I could show everyone on this board a video of James (well, I couldn't, but lets just say I did), and a huge number of people would go "lerp derp herp I'm gonna herp stay with my LI because this guy is OBVIOUSLY a douche bag derp Jersey Shore is a reality for me herp derp"

This guy is one of the few people with brains in these forums, general gaming population as well..
Fact is, what a guy in 2nd page said, the number of douchebags in this thread is just...wow... Makes me feel ashamed that these are the infamous fellow Bioware/ME fans... People are so shallow.

Let me enlighten you kids. 99% of you here have NO idea what it's like to be a soldier, but think and claim you do, just because you've watched something, whether that be a movie or the news. Nor do you have any idea the kind of mental strength it requires for someone to be a GOOD soldier, see so much ****, then be absolutely normal.

A few days ago, over 30 of my brothers in arms died from an accidental explosion in a base near a power plant. Pieces of them flew 3km away from the site. So you tell me smartasses, how exactly can YOU judge that Vega (who knows what he's been through and seen) is a douchebag? Many people look like douchebags, but are awesome guys if you bother looking a bit closer and past appearance. 

So do us real fans a favor and shut the **** up.

P.s Sorry for being so aggressive, after 20 pages of this thread I feel completely ashamed of some people here.
p.p.s for the REALLY stupid people here - my point was that some soldiers look like douchebags sometimes, but they're really great people. Grow the fk up already, shallow people.

My thoughts exactly, good to see there are a few people who don't judge people only by appearance.

Listen. The reason people suspect Vega is a douchebag (or in my case bland and boring) is because Bioware's Mass Effect writers have so far made boring or otherwise unremarkble male human charecters while they place the females in skin tight outfits and have them shake their ass at you. 

So we're just going with what Bioware assumes are good human charecters and the desire to capture the COD market. Here's the irony, Captain Price & Soap MacTavish actually have interesting backgrounds and personalities (Mason from Black Ops was just whiny).  I sincerely hope Bioware will give Vega both a spine and actual charecter traits insetad of saving them for the ZOMG! KEWL ALIEN!

[Daddy Bags]

I see a slightly less douchey version of Ronny from Jersey Shore.

I feel like a CoD player when I say "Thanks Treyarch Bioware."

[Jademoon121]

I'm so SICK about people whining that Vega is derpjerseyshoredouceherp or is GHEEYYYY or is OMG PANDERING TO COD! Why does every single squad mate have to be a pretty little snowflake that's different from everyone else? It's cliche and dull. I'm glad we're given an average joe with a clean slate, because that's both original and it opens up a wide door to character development. You people are vapid, shamelessly so.

[Saberchic]

At this point, Bioware could make him look like an Adonis, and people would still complain and call him a douche.
:?Whatever.

I'm excited. It'll be good to meet someone new, and I look forward to getting to know him.

I liked him before, and I like him now. Keep up the good work Bioware!

[mineralica]

Should I consider myself lucky for not knowing what atlantic coast of New Jersey has in common with James Vega?

[Phaedon]

[quote]Babli wrote...
Yes. [/quote]
Right.

[quote]I actually liked Kaidan because of his look. Quite unique. But I like how are you so sure about my reaction.[/quote]
Got you there. Kaidan uses the generic male model, his facial features are no more unique than Vega's (I'd argue they are worse), and his haircut is as generic as possible.

Try again when you use the word uninspired.



[quote
He must? Its written in some book? Ashley is also soldier/tank but Bioware went in very unique way with her look. Its very clear to what audience is Vega targeted. Even Bioware doesnt make a secret of their interest in CoD audience.[/quote]
A tank should look muscular. As for Ashley being a tank? You are acting as if some people didn't dislike that she had to be a tank due to combat purposes while the only heavy thing about her is her armour. No one other than Wrex in ME1 look like they can take some damage.

[quote]
There were decent CoD games..years back.  But now is Activision just milking it and it shows. I really cant take CoD seriously these days.
[/quote]
Years back?

COD 1, COD: UO, COD 2, 3 and MW1 were of very good quality.

And I'd argue that BO's story is pretty refreshing as compared to the regular war stories in the video game industry.

Next time use MW2 instead of COD. Or don't use anything at all, "x looks so uninspired like y". I am sure that some artists put a lot of effort in MW2, it's just that it's direction is different from what many wanted.

[Vertigo_1]

mineralica wrote...

Should I consider myself lucky for not knowing what atlantic coast of New Jersey has in common with James Vega?

Are you saying you don't know about the show Jersey Shore?

Then: YES!, you would be very lucky

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 16 juillet 2011 - 07:03 .

[Dhiro]

*sigh*

I like his looks. While I wouldn't say he's supermegaawesomefoxyhot, I can't say he's ugly. I think he has his charms, actually. Anyway, I hope he is a S/S option

[mineralica]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Are you saying you don't know about the show Jersey Shore?

Then: YES!, you would be very lucky

I highly doubt something with such name is broadcasted in Russia:huh:

[MACharlie1]

We know for a fact that nearly all squadmates use an actual model for their faces, right?

We've pretty much narrowed down Kaidan's to some hair product model, we saw Ashes model on a screen, Shep is Vanderloo, Miranda is Yvonne...chances are that Vega is actually based on a model. Almost nobody in Mass Effect has a "generic face" - you will find one of your squadmates SOMEWHERE.

I'm not sure what exactly my point is but there you have it.

[Babli]

Yes, Kaidan looks so generic. I mean, you can see guys who look like him in every game.

Except not.

No point in arguing with you Phaedon. You know that we will never agree with each other.

[DTKT]

Heh.

Heres what it comes down to. Based on the looks, Vega looks pretty dumb. Now, it's a valid assumption since we don't know anything about him.

If he ends up being a dude-bro, I will be disappointed but Bioware can still create an interesting character if he ends up being different because of his personality.

[Anarya]

All you guys bemoaning the terrible shallowness of us who are criticizing this design are missing the point. This is character design, not reality. Character appearance is specifically meant to tell you what the designer wants you to know or think about the character, which is usually what he/she is like as a person. Stereotypes and archetypes are tools for the character designer to invoke to convey information visually. We are offering our snap judgments of Vega's looks as feedback. Perhaps he's supposed to look like a meathead but when you talk to him, you find out he's a professor of English Literature or something. Maybe he actually IS a meathead. His appearance is carefully crafted to make you think he's a certain way regardless, and we're reacting to it.

Everyone makes snap judgments based on appearance in reality too, even if you don't like to admit it. I suspect we are all more charitable to actual people in our daily lives, however.

Anyway, I am not thinking of James Vega as a person when I criticize his design, I'm thinking of him as a design. Which he is at this point. And no one in this thread is calling for an "underwear model with Lady Gaga's fashion designer"...holy hyperbole, Batman.

Modifié par Anarya, 16 juillet 2011 - 07:18 .

[Dhiro]

Anarya wrote...

All you guys bemoaning the terrible shallowness of us who are criticizing this design are missing the point. This is character design, not reality. Character appearance is specifically meant to tell you what the designer wants you to know or think about the character, which is usually what he/she is like as a person. Stereotypes and archetypes are tools for the character designer to invoke to convey information visually. We are offering our snap judgments of Vega's looks as feedback. Perhaps he's supposed to look like a meathead but when you talk to him, you find out he's a professor of English Literature or something. Maybe he actually IS a meathead. His appearance is carefully crafted to make you think he's a certain way regardless, and we're reacting to it.

Everyone makes snap judgments based on appearance in reality too, even if you don't like to admit it. I suspect we are all more charitable to actual people in our daily lives, however.

Not me. I'm shallow to the bone in real life, too. Ask all the ugly beggars I kicked in the daddy bags.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Why does his face look babyish?

[Vertigo_1]

mineralica wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Are you saying you don't know about the show Jersey Shore?

Then: YES!, you would be very lucky

I highly doubt something with such name is broadcasted in Russia:huh:

I envy you, then.

[Jademoon121]

Anarya wrote...

All you guys bemoaning the terrible shallowness of us who are criticizing this design are missing the point. This is character design, not reality. Character appearance is specifically meant to tell you what the designer wants you to know or think about the character, which is usually what he/she is like as a person. Stereotypes and archetypes are tools for the character designer to invoke to convey information visually. We are offering our snap judgments of Vega's looks as feedback. Perhaps he's supposed to look like a meathead but when you talk to him, you find out he's a professor of English Literature or something. Maybe he actually IS a meathead. His appearance is carefully crafted to make you think he's a certain way regardless, and we're reacting to it.

Everyone makes snap judgments based on appearance in reality too, even if you don't like to admit it. I suspect we are all more charitable to actual people in our daily lives, however.

I agree that this is character design, but well intentioned criticism and critiquing =/= childish teasing and uniformed statements. I've seen one steroid reference for too many times.

[Anarya]

Dhiro wrote...
Not me. I'm shallow to the bone in real life, too. Ask all the ugly beggars I kicked in the daddy bags.

Oh Dhiro, ilu

[Leonia]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

All you guys bemoaning the terrible shallowness of us who are criticizing this design are missing the point. This is character design, not reality. Character appearance is specifically meant to tell you what the designer wants you to know or think about the character, which is usually what he/she is like as a person. Stereotypes and archetypes are tools for the character designer to invoke to convey information visually. We are offering our snap judgments of Vega's looks as feedback. Perhaps he's supposed to look like a meathead but when you talk to him, you find out he's a professor of English Literature or something. Maybe he actually IS a meathead. His appearance is carefully crafted to make you think he's a certain way regardless, and we're reacting to it.

Everyone makes snap judgments based on appearance in reality too, even if you don't like to admit it. I suspect we are all more charitable to actual people in our daily lives, however.

I agree that this is character design, but well intentioned criticism and critiquing =/= childish teasing and uniformed statements. I've seen one steroid reference for too many times.

Agreeing with Anarya here. And for what it's worth, the steroid comment was made by one of the devs/marketting people early on. Maybe it seems childish to use it as an insult but when the actual people designing the game refer to their character in such a way it's hard to ignore it outright.

Modifié par leonia42, 16 juillet 2011 - 07:25 .

[Jademoon121]

leonia42 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

All you guys bemoaning the terrible shallowness of us who are criticizing this design are missing the point. This is character design, not reality. Character appearance is specifically meant to tell you what the designer wants you to know or think about the character, which is usually what he/she is like as a person. Stereotypes and archetypes are tools for the character designer to invoke to convey information visually. We are offering our snap judgments of Vega's looks as feedback. Perhaps he's supposed to look like a meathead but when you talk to him, you find out he's a professor of English Literature or something. Maybe he actually IS a meathead. His appearance is carefully crafted to make you think he's a certain way regardless, and we're reacting to it.

Everyone makes snap judgments based on appearance in reality too, even if you don't like to admit it. I suspect we are all more charitable to actual people in our daily lives, however.

I agree that this is character design, but well intentioned criticism and critiquing =/= childish teasing and uniformed statements. I've seen one steroid reference for too many times.

Agreeing with Anarya here. And for what it's worth, the steroid comment was made by one of the devs/marketting people early on. Maybe it seems childish to use it as an insult but when the actual people designing the game refer to their character in such a way it's hard to ignore it outright.

It was?  I did not know that.