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Ashley/Kaidan are Bi? Yes please!


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mya11 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

I always got the vibe Kaidan was bi. But if he hits on me I'll be pissed, even more when he knows that my Shepard isn't gay/bi.


For this moment Bioware no confirm Kaidan is gay :alien:


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mya11 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

I always got the vibe Kaidan was bi. But if he hits on me I'll be pissed, even more when he knows that my Shepard isn't gay/bi.


For this moment Bioware no confirm Kaidan is gay :alien:


There is still hope, then. Atleast for Kaidan. 

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^ There'll be no 'hitting on' anybody; Bioware have already confirmed romances will be reactive to player choices and not the other way around.

As far as I can tell, the player has to initiate everything.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

^ There'll be no 'hitting on' anybody; Bioware have already confirmed romances will be reactive to player choices and not the other way around.

As far as I can tell, the player has to initiate everything.



Shepard: "Nice armor Alenko"


Kaidan: "I LOVE YOU!"

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If you guys actually payed attention to ME1 you would Kaidan won't hit on Male Shepard unless Male Shepard makes the first move. But I guess it's too much to ask instead of just throwing easy "zomg no hitting!!!" whining around.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

^ There'll be no 'hitting on' anybody; Bioware have already confirmed romances will be reactive to player choices and not the other way around.

As far as I can tell, the player has to initiate everything.


After all the women hitting on MShep in ME2 that's unfortunate, still if Vega's going to be our only m/m option this may turn out to be a blessing is disguise, at least for me.

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ThePwener wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

^ There'll be no 'hitting on' anybody; Bioware have already confirmed romances will be reactive to player choices and not the other way around.

As far as I can tell, the player has to initiate everything.



Shepard: "Nice armor Alenko"


Kaidan: "I LOVE YOU!"

Shepard:   Image IPB


Shepard: :?....<_<...:pinched:..:sick:

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Shepard: :?....<_<...:pinched:..:sick:

This is also a reaction of some of the girls you hit on without asking for permission.

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IsaacShep wrote...

If you guys actually payed attention to ME1 you would Kaidan won't hit on Male Shepard unless Male Shepard makes the first move. But I guess it's too much to ask instead of just throwing easy "zomg no hitting!!!" whining around.


I'm not whining, I'm just..

http://t0.gstatic.co...rhXtfVfOK4r&t=1

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IsaacShep wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Shepard: :?....<_<...:pinched:..:sick:

This is also a reaction of some of the girls you hit on without asking for permission.


Oh which girls are those? My wife? Yes, I'm sure she finds me repulsive. After all, what is marriage really about besides repulsion? :huh: Wait a second...

Modifié par FoxShadowblade, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:26 .


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Yeah Ashly/Kaiden Should be Bi and well Liara's asari and I don't think they have gender, But I believe characters in previous games that were specifically attracted to the FemShep (Garrus) or MaleShep (Tali) should stay that way, it'd just seem weird to be playing as the MaleShep and Hitting on Garrus Same goes for Tali.

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IsaacShep wrote...

If you guys actually payed (sic) attention to ME1 you would (sic) Kaidan won't hit on Male Shepard unless Male Shepard makes the first move. But I guess it's too much to ask instead of just throwing easy "zomg no hitting!!!" whining around.

Sorry, was to busy killing geth to hang on his every word. He did mention that he liked girls (Rana) and asari (Liara, asari dancers in Chora's Den) though. Guess that makes him "bisexual."

IsaacShep, just because you fervently wish it, including your endlessly revived "it was cut from ME1" argument, doesn't make it so. If I were you I'd be insulted if BioWare pandered to me by making any existing character "suddenly bisexual" in ME3. 'cos that's a cop-out from their side.

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Everything panders to someone in this business.

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Kyrene wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

If you guys actually payed (sic) attention to ME1 you would (sic) Kaidan won't hit on Male Shepard unless Male Shepard makes the first move. But I guess it's too much to ask instead of just throwing easy "zomg no hitting!!!" whining around.

Sorry, was to busy killing geth to hang on his every word. He did mention that he liked girls (Rana) and asari (Liara, asari dancers in Chora's Den) though. Guess that makes him "bisexual."

IsaacShep, just because you fervently wish it, including your endlessly revived "it was cut from ME1" argument, doesn't make it so. If I were you I'd be insulted if BioWare pandered to me by making any existing character "suddenly bisexual" in ME3. 'cos that's a cop-out from their side.

A cop-out from their side is to cut his gay romance in the first place. But cutting it doesn't make him heterosexual. Unless we assume Tali was asexual in ME1. Horizon makes it rather clear what his feelings are.

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IsaacShep wrote...


A cop-out from their side is to cut his gay romance in the first place. But cutting it doesn't make him heterosexual. Unless we assume Tali was asexual in ME1. Horizon makes it rather clear what his feelings are.


While I agree with the first part of your post, about the bolded part......what?:huh:.

Modifié par hhh89, 18 juillet 2011 - 07:18 .


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You know what? At first I cared, now I don't as long as Bioware gives us clear lines on what leads to romance and what doesn't (no matter whether it's s/s or not), I don't have a care in the world as to who is made bi.

And no offense to anyone, but all these s/s threads are annoying.

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hhh89 wrote...
While I agree with the first part of your post, about the bolded part......what?:huh:.

You didn't bolded anything actually so I don't know which part xD

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IsaacShep wrote...

A cop-out from their side is to cut his gay romance in the first place. But cutting it doesn't make him heterosexual. Unless we assume Tali was asexual in ME1. Horizon makes it rather clear what his feelings are.

Don't you mean cutting his bi romance in the first place? And it wasn't a cop-out as much as lack of time/resources as you're oft to quote. Cutting it does make him heterosexual, or do you include cut content as part of your gaming experience? Just because Tali had the good taste not to jump my Shepards doesn't make her asexual, so stop that straw man arguing. Oh yes, Horizon, where Kaidan says the same thing to a friend manShep as he does to a LI or friend femShep. Sorry, we have dismissed that claim.

I respect your "right" to have S/S romances in ME3, but not at the expense of logic. Like it or not, you're a vocal, but very small minority of BioWare's player base. And economics is not a democracy.

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Kyrene wrote...

I respect your "right" to have S/S romances in ME3, but not at the expense of logic. Like it or not, you're a vocal, but very small minority of BioWare's player base. And economics is not a democracy.


I think you will be surprised how many will jump on the opportunity to RPG a s/s romance. A lot of people are on the false assumption that those romance option are for the gay players. That's not the case.

It's a Role-Playing-Game, not what a lot of people think a Play-Yourself-Game.

And yes, those characters are actually not real people, so BW can do with them whatever they want.
If Garrus will return with a pink dress in ME3, BW will do it if they want to.
And I won't care.

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Kyrene wrote...
Don't you mean cutting his bi romance in the first place?

I said gay romance because the romance that was cut was between two males. Didn't say he's gay (and not bisexual).

Kyrene wrote...
And it wasn't a cop-out as much as lack of time/resources as you're oft to quote. Cutting it does make him heterosexual, or do you include cut content as part of your gaming experience?

No, I don't pretend my Shep already had a romance with him. But I am going to include this knowledge, just like people include meta-gaming knowledge in their playthroughs even though it ain't actual part of their gaming experience.

Kyrene wrote...
Just because Tali had the good taste not to jump my Shepards doesn't make her asexual, so stop that straw man arguing.

You can say that again, and it will still be the same thing as Kaidan's cut romance with male Shepard. If you think cutting that cut Kaidan's attraction to males, then cutting Tali's romance did the same thing, leaving her with no attraction = asexual. Sorry, same logic. You can't use it only when it suits you.

Kyrene wrote...
Oh yes, Horizon, where Kaidan says the same thing to a friend manShep as he does to a LI or friend femShep. Sorry, we have dismissed that claim.

See, I don't consider unromanced FemShep to be just 'friend' to him. Especially considering ME1 establishes he snaps and loses control only when he's romantically involved with someone.

Kyrene wrote...
Like it or not, you're a vocal, but very small minority of BioWare's player base. And economics is not a democracy.

Is it why companies all the different companies in the world target gay consumers? Why could it be, perhaps because it's a statistically wealthy community? Sounds like good economics to me. Not to mention you forgot about straight women interested in role-playing gay males, and even some straight guys who just like to role-play scenarios completly unrealted to their real life preferences (like Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation did in DA2 going for gay romance with Anders even though he's a straight guy). Numbers can be decieving and BW has already said they've got enough data to know it's worth to create this kind of content.

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kumquats wrote...

I think you will be surprised how many will jump on the opportunity to RPG a s/s romance. A lot of people are on the false assumption that those romance option are for the gay players. That's not the case.

I also did not imply that vocal minority = gay players. Even those you claim will jump at the opportunity are a minority.

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Kyrene wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

A cop-out from their side is to cut his gay romance in the first place. But cutting it doesn't make him heterosexual. Unless we assume Tali was asexual in ME1. Horizon makes it rather clear what his feelings are.

Don't you mean cutting his bi romance in the first place? And it wasn't a cop-out as much as lack of time/resources as you're oft to quote. Cutting it does make him heterosexual, or do you include cut content as part of your gaming experience? Just because Tali had the good taste not to jump my Shepards doesn't make her asexual, so stop that straw man arguing. Oh yes, Horizon, where Kaidan says the same thing to a friend manShep as he does to a LI or friend femShep. Sorry, we have dismissed that claim.

I respect your "right" to have S/S romances in ME3, but not at the expense of logic. Like it or not, you're a vocal, but very small minority of BioWare's player base. And economics is not a democracy.


The gay community is a minor group, but gay content is rarer compared to straight content and when something is rare the higher its value.

I'm sure their are private interest groups giving Bioware and EA extra incentitives to promote their interests

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IsaacShep wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
While I agree with the first part of your post, about the bolded part......what?:huh:.

You didn't bolded anything actually so I don't know which part xD


Sorry, I was referring at the last part, when you said that it was obvious what are Kaidan's feeling in Horizon.

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Kyrene wrote...

kumquats wrote...

I think you will be surprised how many will jump on the opportunity to RPG a s/s romance. A lot of people are on the false assumption that those romance option are for the gay players. That's not the case.

I also did not imply that vocal minority = gay players. Even those you claim will jump at the opportunity are a minority.


Are the people in the majority who romanced Jacob?
Are the people who played Insanity with an Adept in the majority?
Are the people who choose Udina over Anderson in the majority?
And yet they did include it in the game.
Those crazy Bioware people. ;)

Modifié par kumquats, 18 juillet 2011 - 07:21 .


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ReconTeam wrote...

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My role playing shouldn't be crippled by your lack of imagination.


Characters shouldn't be made cardboard cutouts designed to please the whims of some fanboys.


This.

Have respect for your work Bio, either write them straight/gay/bi to start of with or leave them how they were made originally. Retcon for fans have and always will be bad.