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[Baltnin]

If Bioware ever make a patch to make Ashley and Kaidan Bi, I'd easily play ME again. I usually play a game once. It was originally on the game, it wouldn't be so hard to do that. That would resolve "You need to have experienced love with them on the first game!" problem.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Malsumis wrote...

• Waste of resources
• Not in character
• Breaks 'immersion'
• Shows the writers have no respect for their work

1. Not a waste of resources if they believe it would be implemented enough by the s/s players
2. I'm not sure how them being bisexual would break character, care to explain?
3. "Immersion" was broken when Garrus and Tali both decided they wanted in Shepard's pants.
4. I'm glad SOMEONE'S a mouthpiece for the Mass Effect writers around here! /sarcasm

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:34 .

[Finis Valorum]

ubermensch007 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Recon64bit wrote...

Just romance the Asari, jeez.

When we also have Asari that look like this:

Then we'll talk about just romancing Asari

This is an AWESOME Illustration of what a male Asari might look like. I always wondered if such an genetic  anomaly as this has ever occured among the asari...

Curse Bioware for making the Asari female only, now I want blue spaceboys.
Ah well they could always make this into an all male looking (but of course not technically male) offshoot of the species since they've already gone the full space opera route in ME2.

[Wulfram]

The way Kaidan reacts to FemShep and Liara - stumbling over the word "lesbian" - makes me inclined to think he's not Bi. Or if he is, he's not comfortable with it.

[Luigitornado]

Modifié par Luigitornado, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:35 .

[Luigitornado]

Wulfram wrote...

The way Kaidan reacts to FemShep and Liara - stumbling over the word "lesbian" - makes me inclined to think he's not Bi. Or if he is, he's not comfortable with it.

Thisssss

[Rinji the Bearded]

Wulfram wrote...

The way Kaidan reacts to FemShep and Liara - stumbling over the word "lesbian" - makes me inclined to think he's not Bi. Or if he is, he's not comfortable with it.

Uh... what?

I'm pretty sure talking to your commanding officer about anything sexual in nature is pretty unnerving.  He can't even say "I love you" to her when he's being romanced.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:37 .

[Luigitornado]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Malsumis wrote...

• Waste of resources
• Not in character
• Breaks 'immersion'
• Shows the writers have no respect for their work

1. Not a waste of resources if they believe it would be implemented enough by the s/s players
2. I'm not sure how them being bisexual would break character, care to explain?
3. "Immersion" was broken when Garrus and Tali both decided they wanted in Shepard's pants.
4. I'm glad SOMEONE'S a mouthpiece for the Mass Effect writers around here! /sarcasm

You're going to buy the game anyway.....SO it is a waste of resources. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Luigitornado wrote...
You're going to buy the game anyway.....SO it is a waste of resources.

Your mom? I'm not sure how to react to that, because it didn't make any sense.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:39 .

[ipgd]

Luigitornado wrote...
You're going to buy the game anyway.....SO it is a waste of resources. 

I bought Mass Effect 1 because "hey you can be a lezzie that's cool". These features are one of those things they put in to attract ~*~*~*~*New Players*~*~*~*~, in addition to appeasing the old.

[CroGamer002]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...
You're going to buy the game anyway.....SO it is a waste of resources.

Your mom? I'm not sure how to react to that, because it didn't make any sense.

I guess it was joke since games are useless in life.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Obviously the s/s romances are going to be there, so I'm not sure about this "waste of resources" argument.

Unless you're thinking "WELL I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE THAT, THEREFORE IT'S A WASTE."

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 20 juillet 2011 - 01:48 .

[Mims]

My only fear about Kaidan/Ashley [in general], is that they're going to somehow become the same person. If one is bi, well, the other must be bi too because they'll be reading more or less the same lines. If Ashley decides to throw a tantrum, well, Kaidan must throw the same tantrum because they both move the plot forward. Ect, ect.

If they are bi, I hope both are explored with equally compelling reasons towards that decision.

[CroGamer002]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Obviously the s/s romances are going to be there, so I'm not sure about this "waste of resources" argument.

Unless you're thinking "WELL I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE THAT, THEREFORE IT'S A WASTE."

You know, more of the hate of S/S romances, more I wish to start male gay romance in ME3.



Though I'm still speculating about it.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Mesina2 wrote...

You know, more of the hate of S/S romances, more I wish to start male gay romance in ME3.

Though I'm still speculating about it.

I really don't see the harm in it, as you are not Shepard -- you are roleplaying a character.

[mya11]

If Kaidan/ Ash are bi and confirm by Bioware, I hope the devs will be writing a script realistic, why this changement and how this situation will be return for the reunion shepwomen and Kaidan.

And for the shep women, when you romance her Kaidan will see a doctor male or women ?

[CroGamer002]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

You know, more of the hate of S/S romances, more I wish to start male gay romance in ME3.

Though I'm still speculating about it.

I really don't see the harm in it, as you are not Shepard -- you are roleplaying a character.

I know that, I have 12 Shep's only 1 is me.


Just seeing 2 man kissing? Not my cup of tea to say at least.

[Wulfram]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Uh... what?

I'm pretty sure talking to your commanding officer about anything sexual in nature is pretty unnerving.  He can't even say "I love you" to her when he's being romanced.

Sure, some uncomfortableness is expected.   But the way he catches himself before saying "lesbian" - IIRC, twice - and the way he seems confused by the idea that Shepard might like women and him, doesn't give me the impression of being someone who is bisexual and comfortable with that.  My impression may of course be totally wrong.

[rolson00]

Aren19 wrote...

I'm not sure if there's a topic like this, but am I the only one that wants to see both Kaidan and Ashley to be available to the same sex?  I know the option was originally suppose to be available in the first one, so why not try to bring that back into the last of the trilogy?

i want this i have wanted ash for my femshep since i started playing me 1! sucks that i had to settle with laira even more so when they hardened her!

Modifié par rolson00, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:47 .

[Malsumis]

1. Not a waste of resources if they believe it would be implemented enough by the s/s players
2. I'm not sure how them being bisexual would break character, care to explain?
3. "Immersion" was broken when Garrus and Tali both decided they wanted in Shepard's pants.
4. I'm glad SOMEONE'S a mouthpiece for the Mass Effect writers around here! /sarcasm

• Still a waste. Remember this is all characters bi.
• Let's put it this way, Han Solo was a straight character, if Lucas decided in EP6 that Han really he was bi and was also in love with Luke, it would break the character and his story arc(Leia).Or how about The X-files and Carter decides Scully being bi would attract more fans so now Scully has a new female love interest shoehorned in. Or what about Brokeback Mountain were the director decides that more people would see his movie if Ennis(Ledger) was straight? 
• Yep, but that doesn't mean you should damage it further. Never understood this view point, well it's already been done, let's make it worse.
• Oh look a fanboy, who would of thunk it? What happens when devs listen to fanboys? We get DA2. Most people want to avoid that. Also them ME writers haven't made everyone bi.

If the character you want isn't bi too bad, go write some slash fic or if sex and romance are so important to you go play the sims or some VN

RinjiRenee wrote...

Obviously the s/s romances are going to be there, so I'm not sure about this "waste of resources" argument.

Unless you're thinking "WELL I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE THAT, THEREFORE IT'S A WASTE."

Fail. Once again someone that is so enamored with romance, they fail to understand I'm not against s/s. I'm against OMG everyone has to be bi otherwise I'm being neglected/discriminated against. Some character are straight, some are bi, and some are gay that is how it should be. Not all characters bi.

[Russalka]

Where do people get this idea that there is major lobbying going on for everyone to be bisexual?

[shepskisaac]

Malsumis wrote...
Let's put it this way, Han Solo was a straight character, if Lucas decided in EP6 that Han really he was bi and was also in love with Luke, it would break the character and his story arc(Leia).

Yeah, just like Darth Vader turning from Luke's enemy into Luke's father. He never hinted it in Episode 4!

Malsumis wrote...
Or what about Brokeback Mountain were the director decides that more people would see his movie if Ennis(Ledger) was straight? 

Fail argument. Heterosexuality and homosexuality means exclusive attraction to one gender. If someone is turned from gay to straight or from straight ro gay, that means his/her previous attraction was false/untrue etc. But if someone is revealed as bisexual, the previous attraction stays. Nothing changes. Bisexual man/woman is still attracted to the gender he/she was attracted before.

mya11 wrote...

If you romance Kaidan in mass effect 1, in this past he said he love the young girl when he vas 17 years old.

And romancing a girl in the past is how exactly incompatible with bisexuality? You do know what bisexuality is right?

Wulfram wrote...

The way Kaidan reacts to FemShep and Liara - stumbling over the word "lesbian" - makes me inclined to think
he's not Bi. Or if he is, he's not comfortable with it.

Or perhaps he was surprised because he thought FemShep was straight, flirting with him and all, and suddenly FemShep's flirting with female-looking Asari, so Kaidan may be like "wait? Is she a lesbian? Did I misunderstood her being nice to me?" I don't see any discomfort in that scene, what I see is disappointement that perhaps FemShep never wan into him and he assumed incorrectly she was straight and into him. Kinda expected right? Everyone would be disappointed if he/she already got his/her hopes up.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:26 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Russalka wrote...

Where do people get this idea that there is major lobbying going on for everyone to be bisexual?

I have no idea, I'm certainly not.

Apparently Kaidan and Ashley are EVERYONE.

[Puzzlewell]

Russalka wrote...

Where do people get this idea that there is major lobbying going on for everyone to be bisexual?

I've been wondering that for a while. :\\ Those against s/s like to say that we're DEMANDING everyone to be bisexual but if they actually paid attention to what we say, there's no actual demanding going on at all... Each one of us has one, maybe two people we'd like to be an option but I'd like to think the majority of us sit in a grey area of both excited for the possibility and prepared to be let down just incase, since the ball is in BW's corner afterall.

[CroGamer002]

@Malsumis every romance is a waste of resources.


We would probably have exploration in ME2 like in ME1, only better, if Bioware didn't do romances at all! /sarcasm

Modifié par Mesina2, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:26 .