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[mauro2222]

She is christian?

[ThatDancingTurian]

Do we even know if Ashley's a Christian? I thought she was just a monotheist. That's not necessarily Christianity.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Her denomination is never stated.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...

Ashley's apparent disregard for abstinance may mean her religion isn't one that also consider homosexuality a sin. But as I've said, until it's blatantly stated what denomination she follows, it's impossible to determine her values.

Yeah, the fact that she says she believes in God doesn't really say anything about her values except... she believes in God.

[Shiranui101]

i find it nice to always be reminded i'm a walking contradiction.
"you cant be a gay christian-does not not compute"

[Arik7]

yes Shiranui101, but you're not a "real" Christian like Ashley obviously is.

[mauro2222]

I thought that she was pantheist.

[Wereparrot]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Wereparrot wrote...
All I'm saying is that some Christians dissaprove of homosexuality but are quite willing to have hetero sex before marriage. 

Oh, so she's a hypocrite.

Yep. Or it was scripted because of the potential backlash there would be if the relationship wasn't consumated.

[ThatDancingTurian]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I highly doubt she's anything else. more than likely not Muslim. Jewish, maybe, though.

Why do you doubt it? All we know is that she believes in creationism. I don't think anything else was said about her beliefs at all. She may not even follow an organized religion.

[ipgd]

Wereparrot wrote...

Yep. Or it was scripted because of the potential backlash there would be if the relationship wasn't consumated.

Why can homosexuality not be like sex before marriage? It's almost 200 years in the future. She'd be just as likely to ignore scripture condemning homosexuality as 95% of women in the modern age ignore scripture condemning premarital sex.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Wereparrot wrote...

Yep. Or it was scripted because of the potential backlash there would be if the relationship wasn't consumated.

She had apparent sexual experience before, so it's not as if she just broke her alleged values for Shepard.

[Arik7]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I highly doubt she's anything else. more than likely not Muslim. Jewish, maybe, though.

Why do you doubt it? All we know is that she believes in creationism. I don't think anything else was said about her beliefs at all. She may not even follow an organized religion.

It would be very strange for a supposedly devout Christian not to mention Jesus even once. 

Modifié par Arik7, 23 juillet 2011 - 06:58 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Arik7 wrote...
Spending hours upon hours whining about a gay option in a video game is "sanity"?  Dude....  

So spending many more hours demanding gay options in video games is sane? Wha?

BioWare has already stated that based on the data from DAO, there is significant enough demand for same-sex content.  Your opinion doesn't come across as "humble" , as you presume to know better than the developers.  

Where did I claim my opinion was humble? In fact I see this as little more than political correctness run amok.

DA2 had a lot a flaws, but availability of all LIs to the player wasn't one them.  It made the game more interesting for more people.  Isn't that the point?  If all BioWare cared about is "realism", DA and ME would not exist at all.  You'd probably get another WW2 shooter instead.

Hawke-sexuals LIs were certainly one of DA2s flaws, not the largest for sure, but certainly among them.

Nobody is "entitled" to anything. You are not entitled to even more resources being spend on your "straight only" ME universe as you've insisted.

Never said I was. But it would certainly be wise of Bioware to focus on the majority of customers rather than forum complaints from the likes of Eronomos and yourself.

According to BioWare, they are making these games not for themselves and feedback from the fans is important to them.  That's what we've been providing and I am glad they've listened.

Of course you're glad. Doesn't mean everybody else should be however.

ReconTeam wrote...
It's a matter of degree.   Judging by the amount of time you spend here, you seem pre-occupied with this OPTIONAL content in a video-game.  Perhaps your crusade isn't really about video games?

A matter of degree? Clearly you aren't very neutral in this regard are you? Do you think Bioware owes you something too?

Now this topic has gone into religion I see. People going to Virimire Ashley if she is "too Christian" for their tastes? Typical.

[Eternal Dust]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do we even know if Ashley's a Christian? I thought she was just a monotheist. That's not necessarily Christianity.

She said she believed in a "something", and suddenly BSN posters are shoving her into the Christianity club. Assumption FTW!

[Inquisitor Recon]

octoberfire wrote...
She said she believed in a "something", and suddenly BSN posters are shoving her into the Christianity club. Assumption FTW!

Just as the S/S crowd want to shove her into bisexuality for their tastes?

[ipgd]

ReconTeam wrote...

Just as the S/S crowd want to shove her into bisexuality for their tastes?

Oh, ReconTeam, you rascally little scamp.

[ThatDancingTurian]

octoberfire wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Do we even know if Ashley's a Christian? I thought she was just a monotheist. That's not necessarily Christianity.

She said she believed in a "something", and suddenly BSN posters are shoving her into the Christianity club. Assumption FTW!

Right. Funny, I've seen her called everything from a zealot to a bible thumper for that single, vague conversation. We don't even know if she's read the bible.

[Rinji the Bearded]

ReconTeam wrote...
Now this topic has gone into religion I see. People going to Virimire Ashley if she is "too Christian" for their tastes? Typical.

I won't feel too bad about Virmiring Ashley if she was nothing but a hypocritical bigot, but I'm sure she isn't.

[Volus Warlord]

ReconTeam wrote...

octoberfire wrote...
She said she believed in a "something", and suddenly BSN posters are shoving her into the Christianity club. Assumption FTW!

Just as the S/S crowd want to shove her into bisexuality for their tastes?

Dude. Just give up. ME3 will be fully rainbowified whether you like it or not. Bioware must have their political peen flex!

[Rinji the Bearded]

ReconTeam wrote...

Just as the S/S crowd want to shove her into bisexuality for their tastes?

What, would it really matter that much to you?

[Inquisitor Recon]

RinjiRenee wrote...
I won't feel too bad about Virmiring Ashley if she was nothing but a hypocritical bigot, but I'm sure she isn't.

How "accepting" of you. But if Ashley wants to bang FemShep that would be another matter, right?

[Rinji the Bearded]

ReconTeam wrote...

How "accepting" of you. But if Ashley wants to bang FemShep that would be another matter, right?

No.  If she were secretly judging my manshep as he made out with Vega, however...

My argument has been that her apparent religious values wouldn't cause her to disapprove of homosexuality/bisexuality.  Heck, the big reason why I'd think she was not bisexual is because she's absolutely boy crazy, not because Space Jesus would shame her.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 23 juillet 2011 - 07:11 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

ReconTeam wrote...

octoberfire wrote...
She said she believed in a "something", and suddenly BSN posters are shoving her into the Christianity club. Assumption FTW!

Just as the S/S crowd want to shove her into bisexuality for their tastes?

I'm still waiting for my goddamned Wrexmance...

[MegaBadExample]

This... would just mess up two perfectly good characters.