ReconTeam wrote...
Eromenos wrote...
I'm afraid the reality is that queer people do have to fight thrice as hard just to attain even tokenized versions of affirmations that straight people are simply able to take for granted.
Most of us, queer or straight, prefer to project ourselves into the Shepards we role-play as, and we would like to witness our lives reflected in the NPCS all around. Most straight gamers are handed these comforts without second thought thanks to narrow heterocentric writing. Queer gamers cannot rely on being included thanks to continual homophobia in these parts.
Our knowing so means we should give up pointing out that homophobic tokenism is unacceptable. Because it's happened at our expense. We should expect them to try it again and we should speak of it, point to it in the relevant past to try and nip it in the bud before ME3 goes to retail. Considering all this we should not pretend as if being "allowed" M/M means the ME devs are finally heroes in any sense whatsoever. They have a nasty history of willfully mishandling queer depictions while patronizingly denouncing us for defending ourselves.
That's why calling someone homophobic is a mild label for framing our detractors in proper context.
Fight thrice as hard? Bioware will gladly pander to you if it gains them some free press by politically correct Escapist type rags
Ohhhhh, the irony is you're only half-right.
Never let it be said that BioWare is above pandering. Even regarding our queer visibility, both the good and the bad. Of course they're using us along the way. Don't pretend that I think otherwise.
As for your (undying)claim that queer people know nothing about fighting, I'm not surprised you'd try to frame ME3's S/S outcome as something that would never have moved forward without the "pity" and honest-to-gods bottom-line pandering on dear institutional BioWare's part, but only so you can try and minimize queer gamers' role in bringing it about. Most queer and straight gamers around here actually think as you do, but when they lie to themselves and minimize the role of queer voices affecting BioWare's actions, they do it unconsciously. You, on the other hand, consciously do it to yourself and everyone who reads you because the truth about growing queer gamers and our allies' opinions actually affecting a prominent big business like this one is a situation that is your "responsibility" to dismiss and trivialize.
Narrow heterocentric writing? No that's just standard writing that doesn't treat you special. It seems you simply don't like the portrayal of a realistic society and would rather have the universe as you would like it, everybody else be damned. Maybe you think your sexuality is far more important than it really is, but you evidently think game developers owe you something. They don't however, and should be left to made the game they want rather than include "options" for people of every race or gender or sexuality. You don't see people demanding LIs of a specific human race or ethnicity, why do you deserve LIs just so you can imagine yourself as gay Shepard?
Narrow heterocentric writing. Yes, that's whitewashing across the board that pretends straightness is special or pervasive, more so than it ever is or ever was. And, it seems you simply don't like portrayal of a realistic society and would rather have the universe as you would like it, everybody else be damned. Maybe you think your sexuality is far more important than it really is, but you evidently think game developers owe you something.There, I felt fixing that helped a lot.
They owe us big time. Even if they were genuine neophytes to the issue, had they never exploited us before, they still would owe us because queer gamers are clear-cut exceptions to "one-size-fits-all" heterocentric mentality. And because their mission statement for roleplaying is a lie when they commit the "mistake" of counting us for less.
You don't see people demanding LIs of a specific human race or ethnicity, why do you deserve LIs just so you can imagine yourself as gay Shepard?
You shouldn't play dumb, because of all things that is something you are not. But just for fun-
Shepard's ethnicity never changes and can be determined by the character creation screen. Shepard's sexuality needs to be determined in the game itself. The former requires no interaction with NPCs. The latter requires interaction with NPCs. Kids, who can repeat that for a star?
Now. Why do you deserve heterocentric LIs just so you can imagine an entire military frigate's crew as str8?
No. Going around calling people homophobic is simply your way of labelling those who don't think Bioware should meet your demands. You don't see real homophobia here, just people who hurt your feelings by thinking that Bioware shouldn't add anything to suit your particular tastes.
Since you're the one who abhors diverse sexualities to the point of thinking you can police other people's, the "particular tastes" here are yours, not mine. And yet supposedly, I am the "other" and "abnormal" as if I were alone, like my kind were
so few.
Modifié par Eromenos, 16 juillet 2011 - 05:22 .