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[Jedi31293]

Considering I'm a Broadcast Journalism major, I'd probably be getting my face re-organized by annoyed Spectres in the ME universe. However, I did consider joining the Marines and was prepared to enter NROTC but things didn't really pan out the way I planned (parents...) but that's life I guess.

So to answer the question, yes I would definitely join the Alliance military in the ME universe, especially during a Reaper invasion.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

You know you wouldn't join the military OP, you likely would just be on Earth, in the same city you are now playing Alliance Corsair or some Hanar porn games.

[mauro2222]

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

Modifié par mauro2222, 17 juillet 2011 - 05:24 .

[Yakko77]

This former U.S. Navy flattop veteran would love to serve on an Alliance carrier!

I'd love to give the Reapers the Battle of Midway treatment!!!  Or maybe more appropriately, the Battle off Samar treatment.  An epic naval battle where the winning side had no business winning at all though it was costly.

"Taffy 3"

*salutes*

Modifié par Yakko77, 17 juillet 2011 - 05:27 .

[pablodurando]

mauro2222 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

Whether a war is justified or unjutified is completely subjective.  I could say America was justified to enter a world war becauase one of our major ship ports was bombarded.  You could say that it was still unjustified for whatever reason.

[Recon911PDW]

I would most definitely give it a try.

[mauro2222]

pablodurando wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

Whether a war is justified or unjutified is completely subjective.  I could say America was justified to enter a world war becauase one of our major ship ports was bombarded.  You could say that it was still unjustified for whatever reason.

I don't think that fighting for a government that in the first place wanted you dead in pearl harbor so in that way others will join the "cause" is a justification.

Fighting for lands, resources, money, power is war. This is why war is unjustified.
Fighting for freedom, lives, and love is determination and humanity.

Modifié par mauro2222, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:00 .

[pablodurando]

mauro2222 wrote...

pablodurando wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

Whether a war is justified or unjutified is completely subjective.  I could say America was justified to enter a world war becauase one of our major ship ports was bombarded.  You could say that it was still unjustified for whatever reason.

I don´t think that fighting for a goverment that in the first place wanted you dead in pearl harbor so other would join the "cause" is a justification.

Fighting for lands, resources, money, power is war. This is why war is unjustified.
Fighting for freedom, lives, and love is determination and humanity.

That's exactly my point, it comes to opinion.   It's your opinion to what is justified because justification itself can not be defined.  But to some person it will be jutified so in some form of the word war is justified, just not justified by all.

Modifié par pablodurando, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:03 .

[mauro2222]

pablodurando wrote...

That's exactly my point, it comes to opinion.   It's your opinion to what is justified because justification itself can not be defined.  

Your right in that I admit my mistake in the explanation, but I was saying the truth of what war is, and why there is no justification applied in that case.

Modifié par mauro2222, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:09 .

[pablodurando]

mauro2222 wrote...

pablodurando wrote...

That's exactly my point, it comes to opinion.   It's your opinion to what is justified because justification itself can not be defined.  

Your right in that, but I was saying the truth of what war is, and why there is no justification applied in that case.

Does it not tie in.  Someone always thinks that war is justified, so in some form it's justified.  What if your city was invaded by savages who wanted to simply kill you all, would you think war was justifed?

[mauro2222]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Fighting wars for resources is the most justified kind of war you can fight.

It's smart war.

If that is sarcasm, I fail to see it.

[Made Nightwing]

mauro2222 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

The revolution. Yep, justified.

Gulf War was also justified. Kuwait was invaded and occupied by Iraq, Saudi Arabia was threatened. America, NATO and the UN reacted accordingly, turning Saddam's army into scrap iron.

Six Days war was the sovereign, democratic country of Israel being invaded (again) by a multitude of hostile Arab countries who refuse to acknowledge the UN's ruling giving the Israeli's a homeland after WWII. The Israeli Defence Force proceeded to hand the invaders asses to them...in six days. So, that one was justified.

WW2 was possibly the most justified war ever. Hitler declared war on basically everyone and swept over Europe. England declared war because of this, and fought the Axis powers tooth and nail. America would have stayed out, but then Japan (who were motivated by their expansionalism and imperial ambitions) launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbour, with the intention of taking over the whole Pacific region. They took the Phillipines, Malaysia, a lot of China, and were coming down to grab Australia and deny the Americans a base from which to counter strike.

My grandfather was one of those who joined up to help stop this. He fought, and was critically wounded in combat. Normally I would ignore opinions such as yours, but you get me quite angry when you demean the sacrifices he and millions of others made for freedom. Please keep your ignorant drivel to yourself.

[mauro2222]

Made Nightwing wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

When? just give me an example please

American Revolution, Texas War of Independence, Gulf War 1, the 6 Day War, and WW2 is a valid example.

The only reasonable is the first one, and it was a revolution, a revolution who´s roots were forgotten just like my country independence war. The gulf war, was for money and power just like Irak. The 6 days war, I don´t know really the reasons of that conflict, but if it because is the "promised land" I would laugh to death. The WW2 was the biggest business that man have ever see. And Texas war, well for what I read was fear of losing power and slaves and more money, I don´t really know much of this, the only info that I have is of a documentary and well a movie "El Alamo" (such a propaganda).

The revolution. Yep, justified.

Gulf War was also justified. Kuwait was invaded and occupied by Iraq, Saudi Arabia was threatened. America, NATO and the UN reacted accordingly, turning Saddam's army into scrap iron.

Six Days war was the sovereign, democratic country of Israel being invaded (again) by a multitude of hostile Arab countries who refuse to acknowledge the UN's ruling giving the Israeli's a homeland after WWII. The Israeli Defence Force proceeded to hand the invaders asses to them...in six days. So, that one was justified.

WW2 was possibly the most justified war ever. Hitler declared war on basically everyone and swept over Europe. England declared war because of this, and fought the Axis powers tooth and nail. America would have stayed out, but then Japan (who were motivated by their expansionalism and imperial ambitions) launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbour, with the intention of taking over the whole Pacific region. They took the Phillipines, Malaysia, a lot of China, and were coming down to grab Australia and deny the Americans a base from which to counter strike.

My grandfather was one of those who joined up to help stop this. He fought, and was critically wounded in combat. Normally I would ignore opinions such as yours, but you get me quite angry when you demean the sacrifices he and millions of others made for freedom. Please keep your ignorant drivel to yourself.

I´m not demeaning any sacrifice, your granfather fought for what he believed was right (he was fighting for lives) but he was manipulated, while he was fighting more manipulated people, others in the background were filling their pockets with money. When you finally understand that war is the mean to steal something and declare it yours you will see this. As I said before, Gulf war was for oil just like Irak is for oil.

There is always another way.

[mauro2222]

Saphra Deden wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

If that is sarcasm, I fail to see it.

No, it's the naked truth.

Why? of wich resources we are talking? water? air?

[Made Nightwing]

Who was manipulated? No, honestly, please, tell me. WHO manipulated a war that killed tens of millions? Was it the Templars? Or the Grand Order of Assasins? Maybe a brokerage of powerful buisnessmen intent on world domination? Or some aliens assessing our capabilities for an invasion that is yet to come? Please, share your knowledge. You're a joke.

[Yakko77]

mauro2222 wrote...


There is always another way.

The people who say that never say it to the despot/dictator who insigate the war in question.  They're usually too... dead... to try.  It's always in hindsight and armchair generalship that you question and judge wars.  Ideology and reality often don't mix.  My sig is an example of reality that many ideologues would deny.

[pablodurando]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Who was manipulated? No, honestly, please, tell me. WHO manipulated a war that killed tens of millions? Was it the Templars? Or the Grand Order of Assasins? Maybe a brokerage of powerful buisnessmen intent on world domination? Or some aliens assessing our capabilities for an invasion that is yet to come? Please, share your knowledge. You're a joke.

It's not a joke, it's a common pattern in war.  Generals manipulate soldiers to try to win a battle knowing people are going to die.  It's sad but soldiers are tools.

[pablodurando]

Yakko77 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...


There is always another way.

The people who say that never say it to the despot/dictator who insigate the war in question.  They're usually too... dead... to try.  It's always in hindsight and armchair generalship that you question and judge wars.  Ideology and reality often don't mix.  My sig is an example of reality that many ideologues would deny.

That is what happens when psychopaths and retards get admitted into high positions.  Exactly why the general public should know their leaders and be able to pick the best leaders after EXTENSIVLY studying their ideals.

Modifié par pablodurando, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:34 .

[Made Nightwing]

Yakko77 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...


There is always another way.

The people who say that never say it to the despot/dictator who insigate the war in question.  They're usually too... dead... to try.  It's always in hindsight and armchair generalship that you question and judge wars.  Ideology and reality often don't mix.  My sig is an example of reality that many ideologues would deny.

^This. Sitting around in an armchair, reading books and watching documentaries does not count as examining the conflict 'in detail'.

[mauro2222]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Who was manipulated? No, honestly, please, tell me. WHO manipulated a war that killed tens of millions? Was it the Templars? Or the Grand Order of Assasins? Maybe a brokerage of powerful buisnessmen intent on world domination? Or some aliens assessing our capabilities for an invasion that is yet to come? Please, share your knowledge. You're a joke.

You can´t ignore that federal banks are in your country, my country, and in every capitalist country. From where the goverment gets his money? The central bank, the central bank creates this money out of nowhere and is shared to the goverment with interest (debt), this interest gets bigger with the ammoun of money required. When you are at war, you need money, from where the money comes from? Who gets more money = power as long the conflict last?

[mauro2222]

Saphra Deden wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Why? of wich resources we are talking? water? air?

Any resources a society needs to thrive.

Which are food, water, and houses.

[mauro2222]

Yakko77 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...


There is always another way.

The people who say that never say it to the despot/dictator who insigate the war in question.  They're usually too... dead... to try.  It's always in hindsight and armchair generalship that you question and judge wars.  Ideology and reality often don't mix.  My sig is an example of reality that many ideologues would deny.

Is true, but as long as you think that an idea is an idea, it will never come true.