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[Toki]

 I don't know, she was my favorite character and then I left her behind because your mom was all upset, and she got  taken away by templars. My second playthrough she dies in the Deep Roads. I really miss her, she was one of my favorite characters. They give you a beautiful mage and then take her out the first act, it really upsets me. Just wondering if anyone else misses her. 

[CrimsonZephyr]

They missed an opportunity for character development, especially with the Hawke family as a whole, by getting rid of her after Act I. Plus, she's a sane mage and the writers seemed intent on proving that insanity was the norm.

[xRiseAboveThis]

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

[PrinceLionheart]

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

[Sinaxi]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

Ohhh god, THANK YOU. Carver made me want to punch him every time he opened his mouth...I'm doing another playthrough right now and trying SO hard to make his friendship rating go up which is practically impossible unless you want to side with Templars and cry about mages in every quest. His rivalry also starts so high that it just sucks trying to bring it up. I'm not sure if he even really acts different at a higher friendship rating though, I'm sure his responses are basically the same for the end of the game.

It sucks since I prefer being a mage with DA2's whole mage/templar thing but Bethany seems so much cooler.

[catofnine]

I do.  

Her banters with Isabela were hilarious, and I find Anders tiresome. 

[Dhiro]

As xRiseAboveThis said, I miss Carver more than I miss Bethany. I like her, but I just like Carver more. :|

[Heidenreich]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

This is the -best- part of Carver. If you have a younger or heck, even an older brother, he hits home on the brother feeling SO WELL.

You have to remember, as a Mage hawke, Carver is the ONLY one of the three kids who's not a special and unique snowflake. That would mean less time spent with dear-ol-dad because he'd be spending his time between Hawke and Bethany for training.

Bitter little brothers are SO MUCH BETTER then loving little sisters. Course, that might just because I don't HAVE a sister, and so I find it very difficult to relate ;p

[berelinde]

Heidenreich wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

This is the -best- part of Carver. If you have a younger or heck, even an older brother, he hits home on the brother feeling SO WELL.

You have to remember, as a Mage hawke, Carver is the ONLY one of the three kids who's not a special and unique snowflake. That would mean less time spent with dear-ol-dad because he'd be spending his time between Hawke and Bethany for training.

Bitter little brothers are SO MUCH BETTER then loving little sisters. Course, that might just because I don't HAVE a sister, and so I find it very difficult to relate ;p

What she said.

Sure, there are probably families where everyone gets along and nobody ever grunts at anyone else, but I wouldn't want to live in one.

You don't have to be on your best behavior around family. If you're cross, you can let off steam with them and they'll understand. And then there's the resentment thing.

Siblings are constantly compared to each other, even by their own parents. It starts when they're infants and continues until they leave home.

"Should we get them piano lessons, do you think?"
"Not all of them, no. Sally doesn't even like music. Let's get her ballet lessons instead."
"Er... are you sure about that, dear?"
"She'll learn to be graceful. You'll see."

That was never meant for Sally's ears, but when she accidentally overhears it, she'll think that her parents agree that she's talentless and clumsy compared to her other siblings. It's definitely a case of "Point? Missing it," but Sally won't understand that her parents are interested in finding an art form for her that she'll enjoy. She'll think that her parents don't love her as much, and what's so special about Janey and Tom, anyway? They aren't all that. And then Tom gets picked for the solo in the school choir.

Hey look! Rivalry +100. And Tom didn't have to do a thing to deserve it. Does it make Sally a bad person? No, it makes her human. But when Tom needs her to vouch for him when a teacher with bad eyesight accuses him of smoking by the corner of the gymnasium, Sally will not let him down.

So yeah, I miss Carver a lot more than Bethany. He's a lot more real.

[Toki]

Yeah, I just find Bethany really sweet and Carver a whiny baby. I think the second or third conversation I've had with him in Gamlen's house he was basically telling me it's all my fault that Bethany died and all of that. Like what the hell, I thought we were together here xD

I could care less, I don't usually use him, but when he's gone I'll probably be a bit happier. But I do agree with you guys on how it's more real, how he's always in your shadow and he's upset over it and all of that.

[Dhiro]

Myself, I just want to give Carver a hug.

[dewayne31]

I miss her. she is one of my favorite bioware characters. i hope in the dlcs they further her development

[beckaliz]

I like the variation in the sibling dynamic between Carver and Bethany. I think they're both adorable. Carver is just cranky because he feels like he has so much to live up to. I'm the oldest of four. Ha ha ha. I'm the bossy one, too.

[PrinceLionheart]

Heidenreich wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

This is the -best- part of Carver. If you have a younger or heck, even an older brother, he hits home on the brother feeling SO WELL.

You have to remember, as a Mage hawke, Carver is the ONLY one of the three kids who's not a special and unique snowflake. That would mean less time spent with dear-ol-dad because he'd be spending his time between Hawke and Bethany for training.

Bitter little brothers are SO MUCH BETTER then loving little sisters. Course, that might just because I don't HAVE a sister, and so I find it very difficult to relate ;p

Oh, I understand Carver's characterization, and it was even very realistic at that. I have an older sister (but then again, I'm also the only son in the family so I never suffered being unnoticed.) And yeah, I actually do like him more than Bethany because of that as well because it felt real. Didn't stop me from wanting to slap him upside the head though.

[berelinde]

PrinceLionheart wrote...
Oh, I understand Carver's characterization, and it was even very realistic at that. I have an older sister (but then again, I'm also the only son in the family so I never suffered being unnoticed.) And yeah, I actually do like him more than Bethany because of that as well because it felt real. Didn't stop me from wanting to slap him upside the head though.

Well, yeah, family is all about that, too.

[Mr.House]

Dhiro wrote...

Myself, I just want to give Carver a hug.

This. Just a little hug would make me happy.

[Fangirl17]

Yeah I miss her D: She was a good sis ^^ I admit her personality is a little dull but I still feel a sisterly or brother-sister bond between her and my Hawke. It makes me happy that I can take her along during the new DLC She was part of my favorite party,Bethany,Merril,Isabela,and my M!Hawke as tank :3

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I missed her a lot in my first run through, but what got me the most was the fact that she still kept appearing in the character selection screen and I went through the entire rest of the game thinking "OK I'm sure I'll be able to recruit her again any minute now....any minute!"

[danteliveson]

I only went though with Circle Bethany, so I was disappointed.

[berelinde]

Circle Bethany is actually more tolerable than Grey Warden Bethany, at least in my opinion. She finally appreciates the freedom she took for granted. She realizes that being "normal" is not always a good thing. And she doesn't complain! She's stuck where she is, but she doesn't blame Hawke or anyone else for her being there. I'm not really a Bethany fan. I find her behavior rather unbelievable, at times. But the absence of whining is welcome.

Grey Warden Bethany, on the other hand, is very bitter and resentful. She does blame Hawke for her being there, and hates how she is set even further apart from what she considers normal.

Carver, on the other hand, is a bit of a jerk no matter what you do. I like that about him.

[Dhiro]

Gods, Grey Warden Bethany is terrible. Her letter in Act 2 is filled with despise. You could cut all that hate with a knife, and I had max friendship.

[PseudoEthnic]

GW Bethany is angry at first, but by Act 3, she's sorry for yelling at you, and joins your side again.

[dewayne31]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

GW Bethany is angry at first, but by Act 3, she's sorry for yelling at you, and joins your side again.

i like her so much  i cann't stand her going into deep roads. i wouldn't take my real sister no matter how much she wanted to go.

[TheAwesomologist]

Heidenreich wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

xRiseAboveThis wrote...

I never really missed Bethany, but I missed Carver so much after the Grey Wardens took him that I actually jumped up and did a dance when I saw him during the fight with the Qunari.

You missed Carver? I mean yeah, he had more depth than Bethany, but I swear if I had to hear him **** one more time about "being in my shadow."

This is the -best- part of Carver. If you have a younger or heck, even an older brother, he hits home on the brother feeling SO WELL.

You have to remember, as a Mage hawke, Carver is the ONLY one of the three kids who's not a special and unique snowflake. That would mean less time spent with dear-ol-dad because he'd be spending his time between Hawke and Bethany for training.

Bitter little brothers are SO MUCH BETTER then loving little sisters. Course, that might just because I don't HAVE a sister, and so I find it very difficult to relate ;p

I'm just going to point out the flipside of this. I have a kid sister who for many years was shy and awkward. I instantly related to my Hawke and Bethany. I would do anything to protect her. There was a reason why she didn't get picked on in school too much 

She was a little bland at times and it seemed like Carver got some of the better dialog. I prefer Grey Warden syblings, even though you get this letter from Bethany that she's "happy" in the circle, I just think storywise it makes more sense that you bring her (or Carver) with you to the Deep Roads. Besides she looks awesome in GW Mage armor. Thats the only chance you get at "dressing up" your companions.

[Lisa_H]

Carver can be a bit of a jerk, but I still think he is an adorable little brother. I liked both Bethany and Carver. I have a younger bother and sister myself, so could easy relate to my Hawke as the big sister that wants to keep her siblings out of trouble. Therefore I rarely bring neither Bethany or Carver to the deep roads.