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naledgeborn wrote...

Because of presumptuous bullsh!t like this from both sides ( "I hate gays!/burn the homophobes on suspicion!") I'm avoiding these forums like the plague. It's a shame really. Good way to shoot the sh!t and pass the time between 3.6.12. If people were more tolerant and less sensitive things would be better around here

you are either blind, stupid, dumb or just retared.

can you not read what i have written? let me make it bolded and capitalized for you:

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HAVING THE NEW CHARACTERS IN THE MASS EFFECT STORY BE GAY. THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR THEIR PERSONALITIES.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OLD CHARACTERS WITH ALREADY DEVELOPED PERSONALITIES AND SEXUAL PREFERENCES BEING RET-CONNED TO BE SOMETHING THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE (i.e YOU CANNOT GO FROM BEING STRAIGHT TO BEING GAY THROUGH CHOICE).

THIS IMPACTS THE CONTINUITY OF A STORY. STORY IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORATNT THING MASS EFFECT HAS GOING FOR ITSELF


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I dont want previous characters available for SS romance in ME3 as much as the next guy, but Garrus and no other character has been confirmed as a SS romance.


Mordin Solus.  Obvious choice since he is bi.

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zainyzom wrote...

you are either blind, stupid, dumb or just retared.



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NO! I'm sorry but ur wrong.

I shouldnt have to 'deal with it'. I DONT want to have to have an awkward convo where the game "checks" to see if i want to have a gay relationship with garrus, to which i have to reply "no sorry dude, i dont swing that way" (the way it happened in DA2 with Anders).

i dont want MY cannon story ruined with this totally nonsensicle stuff that shouldnt be ther in the first place.


If your enjoyment of a game hinges on the sexuality of one or two characters, perhaps it's not the game for you. You're not making this game, it's not 'yours' to decide.

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Love that you've compared being gay with x-men mutant powers. I wish I'd got the ability to fly instead.

No, being gay isn't a choice, coming out is choice though. People don't tend to mention their sexual orientation when they first meet a person, it would be strange: "Hi I'm Tasha, thought I better mention I'm gay in case you try and accuse me of retconning in the future."

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zainyzom wrote...

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Just come out of the closet already.

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Valentia X wrote...
If your enjoyment of a game hinges on the sexuality of one or two characters, perhaps it's not the game for you.

/facepalm i dont know whats wrong with you pple i cant think of a simpler way to put it.

MY ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME HINGES ON A STORY THAT MAKES SENSE AND PRESERVES CONTINUITY. THE ACTION OF HAVING AN AWKWARD CONVO WITH GARRUS SINCE HE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN GAY BREAKS THAT CONTINUITY.

ffs this is about the single most important thing abut the game which is story.

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zainyzom wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Because of presumptuous bullsh!t like this from both sides ( "I hate gays!/burn the homophobes on suspicion!") I'm avoiding these forums like the plague. It's a shame really. Good way to shoot the sh!t and pass the time between 3.6.12. If people were more tolerant and less sensitive things would be better around here

you are either blind, stupid, dumb or just retared.

can you not read what i have written? let me make it bolded and capitalized for you:

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HAVING THE NEW CHARACTERS IN THE MASS EFFECT STORY BE GAY. THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR THEIR PERSONALITIES.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OLD CHARACTERS WITH ALREADY DEVELOPED PERSONALITIES AND SEXUAL PREFERENCES BEING RET-CONNED TO BE SOMETHING THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE (i.e YOU CANNOT GO FROM BEING STRAIGHT TO BEING GAY THROUGH CHOICE).

THIS IMPACTS THE CONTINUITY OF A STORY. STORY IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORATNT THING MASS EFFECT HAS GOING FOR ITSELF


I've known plenty of people that are bisexual and still prefer one gender over the other.  It still doesn't stop them from being attracted to BOTH genders.  As it has been stated, GArrus wasn't really attracted to femshep in ME2.  If you break off the romance in the middle, he says something like "Yeah, if you want an intimate moment together, we can just blow something up again", indicating that he's okay with trying the experience, but at that point in time, he's not really attracted to her physically.  It wouldn't be that much of a stretch of him to consider a male Shep either.

Also, I don't really think Garrus being bi is going to affect the story Mass Effect has.  Strangely enough, the romance doesn't really have that much bearing on the story.

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zainyzom wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Because of presumptuous bullsh!t like this from both sides ( "I hate gays!/burn the homophobes on suspicion!") I'm avoiding these forums like the plague. It's a shame really. Good way to shoot the sh!t and pass the time between 3.6.12. If people were more tolerant and less sensitive things would be better around here

you are either blind, stupid, dumb or just retared.

can you not read what i have written? let me make it bolded and capitalized for you:

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HAVING THE NEW CHARACTERS IN THE MASS EFFECT STORY BE GAY. THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR THEIR PERSONALITIES.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OLD CHARACTERS WITH ALREADY DEVELOPED PERSONALITIES AND SEXUAL PREFERENCES BEING RET-CONNED TO BE SOMETHING THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE (i.e YOU CANNOT GO FROM BEING STRAIGHT TO BEING GAY THROUGH CHOICE).

THIS IMPACTS THE CONTINUITY OF A STORY. STORY IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORATNT THING MASS EFFECT HAS GOING FOR ITSELF


Why are you typing in all caps homey? I can read just fine. I was addressing the forums in general. This bullsh!t has been going on for a while now. And since your sn was just registered today I'm assuming you're using an alias. If that's the case you damn well know what I was talking about. If you're getting butt hurt that's on your conscience you dig?

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ZAINYZOM! SINCE CAPS LOCK APPARENTLY MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO BE HEARD:
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT CHARACTERS WILL EXPRESS AN INTEREST IN SHEPARD SO THAT SHEPARD WILL HAVE TO TURN THEM DOWN?

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Garrus never stated he was straight.

And, unlike television would tell you, most gay people don't act that different from straight people.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Love that you've compared being gay with x-men mutant powers. I wish I'd got the ability to fly instead.

from my post on the previous page since there was another person there who was just as ignorant as you

if you bothered to read or know anything about the entire xmen comic book saga. it was a massive play on the oppression of gay people. the entire concept of the story was about the oppression of the gays in the media and in society, portrayed through the 'oppresion of mutants'. the same way that the lord of the rings was a play on communism.

gays and mutants have more in common than you think. just because you didnt know that fact about the xmen comics, doesnt mean its wrong. just that you are ignorant.


if you dont believe me, look it up ffs

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Oh look it's this thread again.

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Seriously, these threads are popping up like whack-a-mole. I propose we add a filter to all new threads prohibiting the use of the following phrases:

s/s
retcon
bisexual
Anders
DA2
fanservice

Any new threads with any of these words in the first post will be automatically deleted and the author will be pointed to the existing s/s romance thread.

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mrsph wrote...

I guess it must be that time again.

edit: Why is Garrus always the example in these things? :huh:


Because of all the alien characters in the game, he's the most "dudish". Grunt is sort of a meathead, so guys wouldn't identify with him. Thane is too brooding. Mordin is.....Mordin. If straight men (especially American men) would want to be an alien, they would be Garrus: he's "cool", he's got combat training but he's smooth about it but not nerdy or metrosexual about it. If Garrus can be labeled as a possible same-sex romance option, that will make guys who consider themselves "cool" uncomfortable.

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fighterchicks wrote...

I've known plenty of people that are bisexual and still prefer one gender over the other.  It still doesn't stop them from being attracted to BOTH genders.

i'm sorry but this is a total effing copout and frankly completely offensive to bisexual pple.
you cant CHOOSE to be bisexual either. saying you can is just as offensive as going up to a gay dude and saying "have you tried just not being gay?"

and if you think romance and character continuity is not important in this game then whytf do we have an entire forum dedicated to it??

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HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT CHARACTERS WILL EXPRESS AN INTEREST IN SHEPARD SO THAT SHEPARD WILL HAVE TO TURN THEM DOWN?

i caps coz some pple are incapable or reading what i wrote.

they will do it this way coz that is how they did it in DA2 and they have no way to do it otherwise other than a checkbox in the options menu that says "I am gay" (which would be retarded).



naledgeborn wrote...
And since your sn was just registered today I'm assuming you're using an alias. If that's the case you damn well know what I was talking about. If you're getting butt hurt that's on your conscience you dig?

sorry but u assume wrong, you can ask bioware to check i have no other accounts.

i did make this accoutn today. i was watching some trailers and discorved these forums and came to take a look and saw the big gay thread and was appaled since if they make the old chars turn gay it would ruin the story continuity.

so i decided to make an account and as wtf is going on??

the fact that you cant even have a proper argument without telling pple they are 'butt hurt' shows you have already lost. just leave this thread plx thx

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mrsph wrote...

Garrus never stated he was straight.

And, unlike television would tell you, most gay people don't act that different from straight people.


well, he described that one story with the girl he fought with, so for most gamers, thats all the canon they need.

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I find it funny that you used Garrus as an example considering he is most lore friendly character to be bi. Hell turians can barely tell who is male and female on a human without the knowledge of dem funny bumps.

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mrsph wrote...

I guess it must be that time again.

edit: Why is Garrus always the example in these things? :huh:


I think it's because people are afraid they won't be able to resist his assless glory.

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Has to be a troll, no one is this clueless.

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TheMarshal wrote...
Any new threads with any of these words in the first post will be automatically deleted and the author will be pointed to the existing s/s romance thread.

the big gay thread SPECIFICALLY states that any discussion aobut gay relationships and how they break continuity SHOULD NOT happen in that thread and anyone posting as such will have their post deleted.

and you want me to post that very issue in the big gay thread? how retarded



for those of you who seem to be lacking in understanding. i will say again since you seem to be having a hard time grapsing wtf i am talkin about.



THIS IS NOT A THREAD ASKING WHY THERE ARE GAY PPLE IN ME3

THIS IS A THREAD TALKING ABOUT LITERARY CONTINUITY. AND BREAKING THAT CONTINUITY IN A WAY THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

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Kazanth wrote...

Has to be a troll, no one is this clueless.


ur photo makes me think Mordin is actually saying this quote

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zainyzom wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
If your enjoyment of a game hinges on the sexuality of one or two characters, perhaps it's not the game for you.

/facepalm i dont know whats wrong with you pple i cant think of a simpler way to put it.

MY ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME HINGES ON A STORY THAT MAKES SENSE AND PRESERVES CONTINUITY. THE ACTION OF HAVING AN AWKWARD CONVO WITH GARRUS SINCE HE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN GAY BREAKS THAT CONTINUITY.

ffs this is about the single most important thing abut the game which is story.


By definition, Garrus would then be bisexual, unless you're suggesting that Garrus is going to go up to a Femshep who romanced him and call it off as he's now all about the men.

Sexuality isn't defined in-game, only inferred. With the exception of Kelly, who flat out states that gender doesn't matter, Mordin, who makes one off-hand speech about choosing Shepard should they have been interested in humans, and Liara, Samara, the Consort, and Shiala, who are mono-gendered and don't come from a species that has an actual concept of  binary gender division, you don't know who is what; you only know that certain characters, at that apex, go for specific genders at the time. Some may be coming out of the closet. Some may simply have supposed that Shepard was heterosexual. Some may just decide to go for broke.




And so you don't get your panties in a wad, Bioware will most likely make it that their 'alternative' sexuality convo doesn't appear unless you initiate it.

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Big Gay Thread?

lol

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Kazanth wrote...

Has to be a troll, no one is this clueless.

instad of trying to be an internet tough guy and smartass, why dont you actually POINT OUT ONE SINGLE THING THAT I HAVE SAID IN THIS THREAD that doesnt make sense to you and makes you think i am 'clueless'.

retards abound