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[Isaidlunch]

zainyzom wrote...

i'm sorry but this is a total effing copout and frankly completely offensive to bisexual pple.
you cant CHOOSE to be bisexual either. saying you can is just as offensive as going up to a gay dude and saying "have you tried just not being gay?"

You were convincing until this.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

zainyzom wrote...

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Love that you've compared being gay with x-men mutant powers. I wish I'd got the ability to fly instead.

from my post on the previous page since there was another person there who was just as ignorant as you

if you bothered to read or know anything about the entire xmen comic book saga. it was a massive play on the oppression of gay people. the entire concept of the story was about the oppression of the gays in the media and in society, portrayed through the 'oppresion of mutants'. the same way that the lord of the rings was a play on communism.

gays and mutants have more in common than you think. just because you didnt know that fact about the xmen comics, doesnt mean its wrong. just that you are ignorant.

if you dont believe me, look it up ffs

I wasn't critisizing, I actually liked the comparison (yes I was being silly with my wanting to fly comment) and yeah I know the mutant powers are a metaphor for homosexuality. Lots of fantasy fiction uses similar metaphors, Buffy is one of my favourite examples. I apologise if you thought I was being rude, that was not my intention. 

[lietk12]

zainyzom wrote...
sorry i dont come to these forums that often

Explain that, please, with the consideration that you just joined today. :3

[scotty062295]

zainyzom wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...
Any new threads with any of these words in the first post will be automatically deleted and the author will be pointed to the existing s/s romance thread.

the big gay thread SPECIFICALLY states that any discussion aobut gay relationships and how they break continuity SHOULD NOT happen in that thread and anyone posting as such will have their post deleted.

and you want me to post that very issue in the big gay thread? how retarded



for those of you who seem to be lacking in understanding. i will say again since you seem to be having a hard time grapsing wtf i am talkin about.



THIS IS NOT A THREAD ASKING WHY THERE ARE GAY PPLE IN ME3

THIS IS A THREAD TALKING ABOUT LITERARY CONTINUITY. AND BREAKING THAT CONTINUITY IN A WAY THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

How would that break continuity? Let's say you meet a guy. You know him for three years, and over those three years he dates several women. But now, out of the blue, he makes a pass at you. You assumed he was straight because for the longest time he only dated women, but now he tells you he's bisexual and he has feelings for you. Does this mean he "turned" gay? No, it just means he was bisexual and you never knew about it because it never came up.

[thetruefreemo]

So if this is like xmen, where's the cure?

zainyzom wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

I also love how being gay is equated with being a mutant.  

if you bothered to read or know anything about the entire xmen comic book saga. it was a massive play on the oppression of gay people. the entire concept of the story was about the oppression of the gays in the media and in society, portrayed through the 'oppresion of mutants'. the same way that the lord of the rings was a play on communism.

gays and mutants have more in common than you think. just because you didnt know that fact about the xmen comics, doesnt mean its wrong. just that you are ignorant.

And on another note, you've got your analogies wrong. They fit but the original symbolism of the xmen was racism not the oppression of gays; I watched a special on the origin of super heroes on the History Channel. Lord of the rings was not a statement about communism; it was a statement against industrialism showing a future where someone wouldn't have to breed an army but instead synthesize one to destroy the natural beauty that we once valued.  

[naledgeborn]

@ zainyzom. Dude, you're an idiot. What's sad is that I stand on your side of the fence. My reasons unlike some people on here are soley based on continuity. But sure whatever you and everybody elses says. At this point I'm so sick of this love interest garbage I'm about to erase all my Shepard's and have the new one beat off before going to Illos and Omega 4. Less drama that way.

And uh telling me to leave a thread? Really? Did you buy BSN when I was AWOL or something? Just proved that you were a presumptuous ass right there. 

[ElitePinecone]

fighterchicks wrote...

I also love how being gay is equated with being a mutant.  

It seems that comic books are the only frame of reference people have. Not, y'know, real life. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I guess it must be that time again.

edit: Why is Garrus always the example in these things?

I think it's because people are afraid they won't be able to resist his assless glory.

I'm straight and I'd still f*ck Garrus.
Because at that level it's art.

[zainyzom]

Valentia X wrote...

Some may be coming out of the closet. Some may simply have supposed that Shepard was heterosexual. Some may just decide to go for broke.

u know what this would be fine if it was limited to ONE or TWO old toons (so we could still use teh quantifier "some"), but it will be preposterous if all of a sudden EVERY fracking person decides to 'come out of the closet' that is what im finding absurd.

sure if they wanna make it like a character thing for one of the old dudes thats fine, but it makes no sense that all of a sudden everyone is gay, which is my whole point.


lets pray to the ME gods that there is a way to completely avoid that convo thing like you sayin there is, but i dont think there will be.

[CuseGirl]

Valentia X wrote...

And so you don't get your panties in a wad, Bioware will most likely make it that their 'alternative' sexuality convo doesn't appear unless you initiate it.

I fail to see why that's such a bad idea for people. Not you, per se, just many of these people who think gay-ness is going to pop out of the game and latch onto them and their virtual-Shep.

[CuseGirl]

zainyzom wrote...
u know what this would be fine if it was limited to ONE or TWO old toons (so we could still use teh quantifier "some"), but it will be preposterous if all of a sudden EVERY fracking person decides to 'come out of the closet' that is what im finding absurd.

how many people do you romance in one playthru? the whole crew?

[zainyzom]

thetruefreemo wrote...
They fit but the original symbolism of the xmen was racism not the oppression of gays; I watched a special on the origin of super heroes on the History Channel. Lord of the rings was not a statement about communism; it was a statement against industrialism showing a future where someone wouldn't have to breed an army but instead synthesize one to destroy the natural beauty that we once valued.  

newsflash!
there was more than 1 play being played out in both lotr and xmen, yes industrialization was tehre. but then again, this thread was not about me educated the retards who didnt get teh ref, it was a small comment i made to shwo them that there is actually something meaninful behind comics and that they should look it up before they think im 'equating gays to mutants'

Modifié par zainyzom, 17 juillet 2011 - 03:17 .

[ElitePinecone]

Firstly: correct spelling, grammar and punctuation makes your posts a whole lot easier to read.

Secondly, a character who previously romanced women and then romances men is not 'changing' from a straight person into a gay person, like Spiderman being bitten with a radioactive spider.

This is a ridiculous comparison.

Nobody in the series has ever established their sexual preference. You're only assuming they're straight because you can't think of anything else.

If they were always bisexual - and we only see a few hours of their lives, out of 30 years - then it would be entirely logical and rational and reasonable for them to show an interest in a Shepard of the same gender in ME3, especially if the writing as is as good as Bioware's standard.

There is no retconning involved, because no concrete sexual preferences have been established.

[jlb524]

CuseGirl wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

And so you don't get your panties in a wad, Bioware will most likely make it that their 'alternative' sexuality convo doesn't appear unless you initiate it.

I fail to see why that's such a bad idea for people. Not you, per se, just many of these people who think gay-ness is going to pop out of the game and latch onto them and their virtual-Shep.

Yeah, funny, isn't it. 

[Raiil]

zainyzom wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

Some may be coming out of the closet. Some may simply have supposed that Shepard was heterosexual. Some may just decide to go for broke.

u know what this would be fine if it was limited to ONE or TWO old toons (so we could still use teh quantifier "some"), but it will be preposterous if all of a sudden EVERY fracking person decides to 'come out of the closet' that is what im finding absurd.

sure if they wanna make it like a character thing for one of the old dudes thats fine, but it makes no sense that all of a sudden everyone is gay, which is my whole point.


lets pray to the ME gods that there is a way to completely avoid that convo thing like you sayin there is, but i dont think there will be.

At what point has it been hinted, stated, or implied that every single f--king person on your ship is going to turn the Normandy into a big old pride parade? No where. That's right, no where. You're freaking out over a possibility that hasn't become real and will most likely not become real. There will be one or two bisexual romance options, and the rest will stay straight.

Christ, I don't get it. I romance Thane but I am not going to flip my s--t if Miranda decides to tell me that she admires my body. Give it a nod and move on with the game.

Modifié par Valentia X, 17 juillet 2011 - 03:23 .

[zainyzom]

naledgeborn wrote...

@ zainyzom. Dude, you're an idiot. What's sad is that I stand on your side of the fence. My reasons unlike some people on here are soley based on continuity. But sure whatever you and everybody elses says. At this point I'm so sick of this love interest garbage I'm about to erase all my Shepard's and have the new one beat off before going to Illos and Omega 4. Less drama that way.

ah ok sorry man, i didnt read my bad. i think i confused with that other guy who has the aame portrait. my bad its just that some of these jarheads get me so frustrated that they cant understand what literary continuity means and how story really is what ME has going for itself.

stay dude, my bad

[scotty062295]

Luc0s wrote...

Eamon696 wrote...

I dont want previous characters available for SS romance in ME3 as much as the next guy, but Garrus and no other character has been confirmed as a SS romance.

WHAT? GARRUS IS CONFIRMED AS AN SS ROMANCE in ME3?

OH HELL NO!

(Is really a little pissed off right now)

BioWare why? WHY?

I just don't see how anyone can get upset over this. Someone who was supposedly straight turned out to be bisexual, it happens all the time. Just because your first assumption regarding someone turned out to be false, and they're more than what you expected doesn't mean you should get upset over it.

[Raiil]

CuseGirl wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

And so you don't get your panties in a wad, Bioware will most likely make it that their 'alternative' sexuality convo doesn't appear unless you initiate it.

I fail to see why that's such a bad idea for people. Not you, per se, just many of these people who think gay-ness is going to pop out of the game and latch onto them and their virtual-Shep.

Hell if I know. I don't care if a character I don't like hits on me, straight, bisexual, gay, or mono-gendered, but apparently they're afraid Cher is going to pop out a chute and start dancing on the galaxy map or something, since they're all specifically scared of male/male sex. No one ever complains about female/female.

[zainyzom]

Valentia X wrote...
At what point has it been hinted, stated, or implied that every single f--king person on your ship is going to turn the Normandy into a big old pride parade?

that big gay thread has like pple talking about 3 ways and all sorts of stuff with the old gang (things like garrus+jacob+vega+grunt+shep in one big love fest). they 'say' they have sources but its like 50 pages long now and no way im reading all that stuff to get to it.

what i am sayin is that at this point we can only HOPE that they dont turn everyone gay, coz that will be retarded, but it seems like you and a few others get that but the majority still wants everyone to be gay and i wanna know why?

[BuddyBurkman]

zainyzom wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

@ zainyzom. Dude, you're an idiot. What's sad is that I stand on your side of the fence. My reasons unlike some people on here are soley based on continuity. But sure whatever you and everybody elses says. At this point I'm so sick of this love interest garbage I'm about to erase all my Shepard's and have the new one beat off before going to Illos and Omega 4. Less drama that way.

ah ok sorry man, i didnt read my bad. i think i confused with that other guy who has the aame portrait. my bad its just that some of these jarheads get me so frustrated that they cant understand what literary continuity means and how story really is what ME has going for itself.

stay dude, my bad

Perhaps it is you who does not understand.

[PlumPaul93]

zainyzom wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
At what point has it been hinted, stated, or implied that every single f--king person on your ship is going to turn the Normandy into a big old pride parade?

that big gay thread has like pple talking about 3 ways and all sorts of stuff with the old gang (things like garrus+jacob+vega+grunt+shep in one big love fest). they 'say' they have sources but its like 50 pages long now and no way im reading all that stuff to get to it.

what i am sayin is that at this point we can only HOPE that they dont turn everyone gay, coz that will be retarded, but it seems like you and a few others get that but the majority still wants everyone to be gay and i wanna know why?

LOL

[Raiil]

zainyzom wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
At what point has it been hinted, stated, or implied that every single f--king person on your ship is going to turn the Normandy into a big old pride parade?

that big gay thread has like pple talking about 3 ways and all sorts of stuff with the old gang (things like garrus+jacob+vega+grunt+shep in one big love fest). they 'say' they have sources but its like 50 pages long now and no way im reading all that stuff to get to it.

what i am sayin is that at this point we can only HOPE that they dont turn everyone gay, coz that will be retarded, but it seems like you and a few others get that but the majority still wants everyone to be gay and i wanna know why?

That big 'gay' thread, as you so charmingly put it, is not a canon source. It's about what they want to see, not what BioWare has promised to deliver. You seriously flipped out over that? Jesus, we talk about wanting a Thane and Kai Leng showdown in the Thane thread, would you assume that's been confirmed as well? <_<

[TheKillerAngel]

Few people have officially established their sexual preference, but there is evidence to suggest that they are one way or another. Just because they don't state that they are straight does not mean they are not straight. Furthermore, the number of bisexual people in the population is sufficiently small for us to reasonably assume that a person who expresses an interest in the opposite sex is straight rather than bisexual.