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Ryzaki wrote...

As long as it's optional sure. Like LOTSB Shep could say he was upset or that he was fine. That would be nice.


Yeah optional would be fine. I liked that scene in LotB btw. It was nice to see Shepard have some emotion to what was going on.

Hell my Shepard is going to be chewing gum and kicking ass and he ran out of gum two games ago....

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I'd like to see a variation on the locker scene in ME1. Shepard sits down, has a fairly blank look on his/her face, but they're obviously feeling something. Whether it's frustration, anger, sadness or something else is up to the player. Give us an ambiguous scene and some dialog options to further express how Shepard is feeling, and I will be one happy player.

And I would like nothing more than squadmates or the LI to be there for Shepard. It doesn't have to be much--just a touch on the shoulder, a smile--but it could be a nice moment and further cement that relationship.

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Ryzaki wrote...

As long as it's optional sure. Like LOTSB Shep could say he was upset or that he was fine. That would be nice.


Something like works for me. And at this point I figure the scene might work well if it occurs as we leave Earth behind.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to go off-topic and leave. I would support something like this, but only if it was optional. My sole survivor Shepard still remembers the Maw attack, but he put it behind him. My guy would just get pissed at seeing Earth burn. Maybe someone roleplayed an emotionally broken colonist Shep who reaches a point in 3 where he/she can't take anymore and collapses in a heap right in the CIC.

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leonia42 wrote...

Totally needs to happen. Would be awesome if the LI was involved, providing support.

It doesn't have to be overly emotional but how can Shepard NOT be worried about the whole dieing and being revived thing? Maybe there wasn't any time with the fast pace of events in ME2 to deal with it but now.. and with the Reapers on the doorstep and every species at each other's throats waiting on Shepard to solve all their problems.. the commander will be more stressed out than ever before. He/she is still a human being and human beings have limits on how much they can deal with at once. There's a lot for one person to deal with here and I'd very much like to see Shepard be vulnerable or unsure of things for once.


Great post Leonia42. Totally summed up what I was thinking.

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CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I'd like to see a variation on the locker scene in ME1. Shepard sits down, has a fairly blank look on his/her face, but they're obviously feeling something. Whether it's frustration, anger, sadness or something else is up to the player. Give us an ambiguous scene and some dialog options to further express how Shepard is feeling, and I will be one happy player.

And I would like nothing more than squadmates or the LI to be there for Shepard. It doesn't have to be much--just a touch on the shoulder, a smile--but it could be a nice moment and further cement that relationship.


That would be a good segueway into the whole 'catfight' thing they're talking about having if you have two LI. Not that I suggest all hell break loose right then and there. IDK, I guess I see it being like Joker's untimely interrupt in ME1.

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

Sorry, I didn't mean to go off-topic and leave. I would support something like this, but only if it was optional. My sole survivor Shepard still remembers the Maw attack, but he put it behind him. My guy would just get pissed at seeing Earth burn. Maybe someone roleplayed an emotionally broken colonist Shep who reaches a point in 3 where he/she can't take anymore and collapses in a heap right in the CIC.


You're fine man, and I agree it shouldn't be force onto those that don't want it. One thing they could do is maybe through dialogue choices allow how emotional Shepard gets? That would be a sound way of doing.

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Agreed. I don't really think he needs to break down over being revived, but there's a myriad of other reasons for why he would get emotional. Maybe a a paragon with some waterworks or at least pain, a renegade where he tears apart his quarters in rage, and a middle option to push on with the mission and stay cool. I think that would work nicely.

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Valentia X wrote...

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I'd like to see a variation on the locker scene in ME1. Shepard sits down, has a fairly blank look on his/her face, but they're obviously feeling something. Whether it's frustration, anger, sadness or something else is up to the player. Give us an ambiguous scene and some dialog options to further express how Shepard is feeling, and I will be one happy player.

And I would like nothing more than squadmates or the LI to be there for Shepard. It doesn't have to be much--just a touch on the shoulder, a smile--but it could be a nice moment and further cement that relationship.


That would be a good segueway into the whole 'catfight' thing they're talking about having if you have two LI. Not that I suggest all hell break loose right then and there. IDK, I guess I see it being like Joker's untimely interrupt in ME1.


Joker is the king of ****blocking, lol. And something like this would be awesome too.

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fenix8081 wrote...

Agreed. I don't really think he needs to break down over being revived, but there's a myriad of other reasons for why he would get emotional. Maybe a a paragon with some waterworks or at least pain, a renegade where he tears apart his quarters in rage, and a middle option to push on with the mission and stay cool. I think that would work nicely.


Agreed

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."

What we truly need is a Breakfast Club dance scene in ME3.

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Hydrosphere wrote...

One thing I thought was lacking in ME2 was the lack of a scene where Shepard is having trouble accepting he died and lost two years of his life. There's really not a scene where Shepard deals with this. In ME3 the stakes are even higher and you know the pressure is gotta be eating him/her up. Entire civilizations are riding on our decisions. No pressure right?

The scene should cover Project Lazarus, survivor's guilt, any losses occured during the suicide mission, and maybe any losses from decisions occuring in ME3. Something I think would do this justice is have Shepard make a Virmire situation and have it take a huge toll on Shepard. Shepard breaks down in fits of tears and his LI rushes to his side to calm him down and let him/her vent.

Maybe this could occur from watching Earth burn?

Thoughts?


Please keep discussions civil. If this subject has been discussed before please post the link to here or PM it and I'll get a mod to delete this thread. :wizard:


P.S. I realize we do kind of had this in LotB and Female Shepards who romanced Jacob can discuss survivor's guilt. But I think this could help improve Shepard in some way or fashion.


As a choice?

I don't want all my Shepards being forced to be emotional cry babies.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

One thing I thought was lacking in ME2 was the lack of a scene where Shepard is having trouble accepting he died and lost two years of his life. There's really not a scene where Shepard deals with this. In ME3 the stakes are even higher and you know the pressure is gotta be eating him/her up. Entire civilizations are riding on our decisions. No pressure right?

The scene should cover Project Lazarus, survivor's guilt, any losses occured during the suicide mission, and maybe any losses from decisions occuring in ME3. Something I think would do this justice is have Shepard make a Virmire situation and have it take a huge toll on Shepard. Shepard breaks down in fits of tears and his LI rushes to his side to calm him down and let him/her vent.

Maybe this could occur from watching Earth burn?

Thoughts?


Please keep discussions civil. If this subject has been discussed before please post the link to here or PM it and I'll get a mod to delete this thread. :wizard:


P.S. I realize we do kind of had this in LotB and Female Shepards who romanced Jacob can discuss survivor's guilt. But I think this could help improve Shepard in some way or fashion.


As a choice?

I don't want all my Shepards being forced to be emotional cry babies.


Yeah optional. My Shepard won't be a cry baby either. But he'll def be pissed and frustrated.

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Hydrosphere wrote...

One thing I thought was lacking in ME2 was the lack of a scene where Shepard is having trouble accepting he died and lost two years of his life. 


Won't happen. This puts the emphasis on Shepard and not the player.

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slimgrin wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

One thing I thought was lacking in ME2 was the lack of a scene where Shepard is having trouble accepting he died and lost two years of his life. 


Won't happen. This puts the emphasis on Shepard and not the player.


And?

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Valentia X wrote...

'Tears are for after. They just waste time before.' - some other book series

My Shepard is a determinator. She's not going to cry about the situation, she's going to put on her big girl panties and kick some serious Reaper ass.

If there's a crying scene, it had better be optional.


This.

Shepard did express frustration and some emotion in ME1 only when completely roadblocked. And then only to the LI. I don't mind options like in LotSB, where Shepard can either be strong or weepy and tired, though.

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I liked that moment in Broker, too. I allowed my Shep to reflect my own thoughts. I have no idea how I'm going to stop the unstoppable. It's like being put in front of an oncoming train and being told to stop it with your bare hands.

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Shepard breaks down in the LOTSB about how frustrated he/she is with everything that is going on but it would be nice he shep broke down in tears from everything that is going on and your LI comes in to comfort you

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Add a renegade "interrupt"(Shepard smashes something in frustration/anger) in the scene and I'm all for it.

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GreedIgnored wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."


Can Shepard even dance to begin with? :P:devil:

He/She can in both games.


Poorly.

:police:

As for emotional moments, yeah, I support this. The genocide of your race/species should be an emotional subject.  Shep is still human afterall.  Legion (if with the squad) should be an observer and question Shep to learn more about emotions to expand on simply being self aware as a definition of being "alive".

Edit: It can be a coping mechanism for Shep and an educational experience for Legion at the same time.

Modifié par Yakko77, 17 juillet 2011 - 05:05 .


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Just like to add that Shepard doesn't know anything what happen to him/her between destruction of Normandy and waking up on Lazarus station.

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Yakko77 wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."


Can Shepard even dance to begin with? :P:devil:

He/She can in both games.


Poorly.

:police:

As for emotional moments, yeah, I support this. The genocide of your race/species should be an emotional subject.  Shep is still human afterall.  Legion (if with the squad) should be an observer and question Shep to learn more about emotions to expand on simply being self aware as a definition of being "alive".

Edit: It can be a coping mechanism for Shep and an educational experience for Legion at the same time.


You know that would be interesting and possibly quite hilarious.

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I guess it depends on how you view your Shepard. I can see an emotional reaction in relation to your LI or something devastating. I'm pretty stoic most of the time (barring volcanic explosions of my temper that is).

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Mesina2 wrote...

Just like to add that Shepard doesn't know anything what happen to him/her between destruction of Normandy and waking up on Lazarus station.


True but I imagine Shep might have an emotional moment after the invasion of Earth and learning of the loses given he/she is witness to it and unable to stop it despite his/her efforts to warn everyone about it.

If I knew about a massive invasion fleet and was unable to convince enough to prepare for it and perhaps prevent it thus saving millions if not billions of lives, I'd be pretty darn emotional too.

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I personally can't see my Shepard breaking down like that, but I'm all for more options. If it was a scene with your LI, I would also like to have the option to completely lash out at them to let out all that built up frustration.