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[Hydrosphere]

Mesina2 wrote...

Just like to add that Shepard doesn't know anything what happen to him/her between destruction of Normandy and waking up on Lazarus station.

you'd think Shepard would want to find out eventually...lol.

[Yakko77]

Hydrosphere wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."

Can Shepard even dance to begin with? :devil:

He/She can in both games.

Poorly.



As for emotional moments, yeah, I support this. The genocide of your race/species should be an emotional subject.  Shep is still human afterall.  Legion (if with the squad) should be an observer and question Shep to learn more about emotions to expand on simply being self aware as a definition of being "alive".

Edit: It can be a coping mechanism for Shep and an educational experience for Legion at the same time.

You know that would be interesting and possibly quite hilarious.

It'd be a learning experience more than anything.  Legion is familiar with the concept of Arlington Cemetary (it's how they view and treat the quarian homeworld) but I don't think he/they/it really experienced such loss it first hand.  If Lefion is witness to the invasion of Eath and the devastating loses first hand, it might provide new insight/data that he/they/it never experienced before.

[Hydrosphere]

Yakko77 wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."

Can Shepard even dance to begin with? :devil:

He/She can in both games.

Poorly.



As for emotional moments, yeah, I support this. The genocide of your race/species should be an emotional subject.  Shep is still human afterall.  Legion (if with the squad) should be an observer and question Shep to learn more about emotions to expand on simply being self aware as a definition of being "alive".

Edit: It can be a coping mechanism for Shep and an educational experience for Legion at the same time.

You know that would be interesting and possibly quite hilarious.

It'd be a learning experience more than anything.  Legion is familiar with the concept of Arlington Cemetary (it's how they view and treat the quarian homeworld) but I don't think he/they/it really experienced such loss it first hand.  If Lefion is witness to the invasion of Eath and the devastating loses first hand, it might provide new insight/data that he/they/it never experienced before.

Very true and if you don't mind me asking. But how did the Geth treat the Quarian dead?

[Yakko77]

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

I personally can't see my Shepard breaking down like that, but I'm all for more options. If it was a scene with your LI, I would also like to have the option to completely lash out at them to let out all that built up frustration.

An opportunity to punch the alien members of the Council might be welcome.  Punching annoying reporters is one thing but the Council has it coming like nothing else IMO.

[TexasToast712]

Hydrosphere wrote...

One thing I thought was lacking in ME2 was the lack of a scene where Shepard is having trouble accepting he died and lost two years of his life. There's really not a scene where Shepard deals with this. In ME3 the stakes are even higher and you know the pressure is gotta be eating him/her up. Entire civilizations are riding on our decisions. No pressure right?

The scene should cover Project Lazarus, survivor's guilt, any losses occured during the suicide mission, and maybe any losses from decisions occuring in ME3. Something I think would do this justice is have Shepard make a Virmire situation and have it take a huge toll on Shepard. Shepard breaks down in fits of tears and his LI rushes to his side to calm him down and let him/her vent.

Maybe this could occur from watching Earth burn?

Thoughts?


Please keep discussions civil. If this subject has been discussed before please post the link to here or PM it and I'll get a mod to delete this thread.


P.S. I realize we do kind of had this in LotB and Female Shepards who romanced Jacob can discuss survivor's guilt. But I think this could help improve Shepard in some way or fashion.

Considering the fact that my Shepard is based on me and considering the fact that Iam a heartless bastard, There isnt much that makes me break down and cry. I dont like the idea of my Shepard breaking out in tears.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 17 juillet 2011 - 05:49 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

leonia42 wrote...

Totally needs to happen. Would be awesome if the LI was involved, providing support.

It doesn't have to be overly emotional but how can Shepard NOT be worried about the whole dieing and being revived thing? Maybe there wasn't any time with the fast pace of events in ME2 to deal with it but now.. and with the Reapers on the doorstep and every species at each other's throats waiting on Shepard to solve all their problems.. the commander will be more stressed out than ever before. He/she is still a human being and human beings have limits on how much they can deal with at once. There's a lot for one person to deal with here and I'd very much like to see Shepard be vulnerable or unsure of things for once.

Exactly what she said.

[ZeroDragon980]

I think a scene like in LotSB would work, but with a bit more added emotion. With all that has happened something has to make Shepard crack even if it is only a bit. But I also think a scene like this should be reserved for Shepard and LI.

I am not sure when such a scene should happen. Near the beginning after leaving Earth and watching it being destroyed, somewhere in the middle, or near the end. When they do it the placement of the scene needs to click well with the ME3 story arc, not just have it drop in somewhere at random.

[Yakko77]

Hydrosphere wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I read that as "Shepard needs a breakdance scene in ME3."

Can Shepard even dance to begin with? :devil:

He/She can in both games.

Poorly.



As for emotional moments, yeah, I support this. The genocide of your race/species should be an emotional subject.  Shep is still human afterall.  Legion (if with the squad) should be an observer and question Shep to learn more about emotions to expand on simply being self aware as a definition of being "alive".

Edit: It can be a coping mechanism for Shep and an educational experience for Legion at the same time.

You know that would be interesting and possibly quite hilarious.

It'd be a learning experience more than anything.  Legion is familiar with the concept of Arlington Cemetary (it's how they view and treat the quarian homeworld) but I don't think he/they/it really experienced such loss it first hand.  If Lefion is witness to the invasion of Eath and the devastating loses first hand, it might provide new insight/data that he/they/it never experienced before.

Very true and if you don't mind me asking. But how did the Geth treat the Quarian dead?

I might have to go and read the Codex in more detail for an answer to that if it's even available.  Legion does specifically mention war memorials like Arlington and Aushwitz-Birkenau in regard to their treatment of the Quarian homeworld.  That alone might help secure peace and get the two sides to fight together against the Reapers.  I hope so.  I know a lot of renegade fans (I have a mostly renegade play through just for kicks) are worried about being "punished" for playing as such but if you work to bring about peace and not encourage war, that should be rewarded IMO.

[JetsoverEverything]

If its like saren when he found out that shepard used the beacon then yes i approve.

[100k]

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

[ZeroDragon980]

100k wrote...

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

I agree there should be one, but why two? I mean if they can manage to cover most if not all the emotional turmoil in one scene there shouldn't need to be more then one scene.

[pablodurando]

Why is femShep never on her period?  That could cause a breakdown scene.

Modifié par pablodurando, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:15 .

[Hydrosphere]

Well I have a feeling our Shepards will have much more character development and emotion for most of the game. Breaking into tears was just for this thread and to get what I was trying to say out there clearer btw.

[Hydrosphere]

pablodurando wrote...

Why is femShep never on her period?  That could cause a breakdown scene.

It may be me, but FemShep sounds ****y no matter what so maybe she is on her period.

[Hydrosphere]

100k wrote...

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

Why two?

[pablodurando]

Hydrosphere wrote...

100k wrote...

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

Why two?

The game last 2 months.

[100k]

ZeroDragon980 wrote...

100k wrote...

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

I agree there should be one, but why two? I mean if they can manage to cover most if not all the emotional turmoil in one scene there shouldn't need to be more then one scene.

Two outburst moments: one before the first half of the story, and one for after any big plot twists near the climax of the game.

The game should also be peppered with optional personal  moments for Shepard. I know some people really don't want Shepard to be anything other than cool and composed 100% of the time (for god knows what reason), but the rest of us want him/her to be a bit more human. Even the toughest soldier in the galaxy is going to have internal conflict when the fate of a galaxy is on their shoulders. 
 

Modifié par 100k, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:22 .

[Hydrosphere]

pablodurando wrote...

Hydrosphere wrote...

100k wrote...

(S)he needs at least two outburst moments in ME3.

Why two?

The game last 2 months.

Fair enough.  I think this will be a emotionally driven story. Probably more so than any other Mass Effect game. So we'll hopefully see more than one scene. Maybe not Shepard breaking down and such, but showing something at least.


@100k I agree! I want my Shepard to show more emotion. Not break down in tears but def some emotion.

Modifié par Hydrosphere, 17 juillet 2011 - 06:29 .

[Persona RED]

I sincerely hope for a break-down scene with Shepard. Shepard has been through so much, and he/she just never has really shown the true scale of their emotions. It's hard to believe that anyone could maintain that for so long, keeping the face of a leader in front of the crew. It could even vary, with their chose back story. Such as the Survivor, with an inability to express, the War Hero, numb to death, and the ruthless being unable to recognize the significance of death.

[FoxShadowblade]

"Dude, Krogan are really just re-purposed Humans who are really just Protheans but re-purposed."

Shepard: "ZOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Okay, back to work."

Seriously though, it should depend on your background for your Shepard. Survivor Ruthless Shepard? Doubtful he would break down. See my point?

[Hydrosphere]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

"Dude, Krogan are really just re-purposed Humans who are really just Protheans but re-purposed."

Shepard: "ZOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Okay, back to work."

Seriously though, it should depend on your background for your Shepard. Survivor Ruthless Shepard? Doubtful he would break down. See my point?

Having trouble understanding the context of the first half of your post. Can you clarify a bit more? And I agree with the background also having a impact. That's actually quite a good point you guys.

[Persona RED]

And imagine, if your Shepard was a Spacer, his/her parents would be on Earth or in the scattered Alliance fleet... That would be huge for Shepard. There are so many ways the decisions in the prior games could contribute to his/her mind set.

[Bogsnot1]

Yes, I too, want Shep to have a full nervous breakdown, develop a twitchy eye, and for him/her start redecorating the Captanis Cabin with feces.
Conrad Verner can then step in and save the day.

[Arppis]

What!? He's not some sniffling woman! Well, ok Jack Bauer had few, BUT STILL! Atleast make it so that he will do in private.

[whywhywhywhy]

Kasai666 wrote...

You have my support. Kinda like in LoTSB, but more intense and emotional.

That was the breakdon scene in LOTSB, that's emotional as Sheperd gets, I could see if he was chuck norris sure make him cry.  But This is Sheperd he doesn't have tears.