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Wusword77 wrote...

erynnar wrote...

To stay on topic: No DA2 is not a better game than DAO, it can't be by virtue of it's dev time alone. Did you, and others still enjoy it more (despite its flaws than you did DAO and its?)? Good, but all that means is it was a better game for you, and in the end, that is all that matters on a personal level.


By that claim Duke Nukem Forever is the best game ever. :lol:  In fact it's over TWICE as good as DA:O because it's had more then twice the development cycle.

I enjoyed DA2 much more then DA:O.  I think DA:O was a solid game but it feels old, like I was supposed to be playing it a decade ago.  Plus reading this boards just confirms my suspicion that DA:O is overrated in the gaming world.




Um I don't play Duke so I can't say. :P But reused dungeons? Yeah DAO did too (playing it right now), all games do, but not to the extent DA2 did. Either DA2 suffered because of it's short dev cycle or it was just shoddy work. I prefer to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to too short a dev cycle. And I haven't even gotten into the details of the game, say easter eggs, hidden rooms, description on items instead of just, "ring" or "pendant."

And yes, in your opinion. But as much as I wish DA2 was as good as it could have been, it isn't. And unlike its predecessor, if it wins Goty, I will be surprised.

Modifié par erynnar, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:16 .


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1) Please illuminate for me if I want to take a healer, who isn't Anders, and am not a mage myself I can take?

2)Action orientated combat? As in repeatedly hammering A and waiting for timers to cool down, whilst wave upon wave of enemies was thrown at me whilst I attempted to move anywhere within the city.

3)the skill tree remains largely the same, the differences I felt were largely cosmetic as the limitations applied by levels and points placed within the tree remained.

4)Personal? As in the introduction where I had no clue who anyone was, nor did I feel the need to care when one individual was killed.

5)Friendship and Rivalry system, badly executed, I should not get rivalry points for being an arse. I prefered the DAO system, despite being open to abuse. Yet, the problems stems as well from the move to diplomatic, sarcastic and angry response which just over simplifies everything and didn't improve on the dialogue system in DAO.

6)develops over time, As in the game won't let you engage in conversation until it wants you to and the romance is culminated in Act 2. 

1. You don't -need- a healer by any means. If you want someone specialised in healing tagging along, that's up to you. It's certainly a great tool. But it's not necessary - instead you could have yet another tank to soak up damage, another damage dealer that helps remove those things that kill you faster (thus removing any potential future damage you would've taken with a healer in the party) or a crowd controller that can utterly disable the enemies instead. If your strategy absolutely requires a healer, yes, you're kinda stuck with Anders. But that's your choice of strategy, it's never forced on you to the manner it was in DAO.

2. Honestly, the combat is pretty much the same in both games aside from how much more responsive and fast your character moves in DA2. Though I agree totally that there are too many random battles in the game. They kinda removed the massive enemy sinks from DAO where you met enemy upon enemy for 30 minutes on end, and instead spread all those fights out over the entire game. Less combat in general would be nice, I agree.

3. It's better though, but I agree it's too limiting.

4. I'm guessing that's referring to the more down-to-earth plotline. And I sure know I enjoyed it. Would've enjoyed it far more if it got more development time, I'm sure. Like most things in DA2, I totally see what they were gunning for and love the idea, yet don't like how everything turned out =\\

5. Both systems are bad in their own way, some kind of compromise would be great. It's nice to be able to get liked and/or respected in different ways with every NPC - develop the relations in branching ways - instead of simply having a like/dislike thing going on. It's kind of ridiculous how everyone likes you almost no matter what you say, as long as you don't ignore them indeed, though.

6. I don't see how the romance is culminated in act 2, since the final love talks are act 3-specific. If anything, one of the things I really liked about DA2's romances is how everything didn't end the moment you slept with each other. I've always had an issue with that in BioWare games, how it's like sleeping with someone is the final answer to everything and there's nothing past that.

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I don't need to justify for every single tom, dick and harry that has a different opinion but I appreciate if don't tell me or others what to think or what I should and should not find acceptable thanks OP.

However if you actually want to know the answer of why people don't like it I have the answer right here.

Should keep you busy for while if bother to read, given you asked why there's your answer so enjoy. Posted Image

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ApostleinTriumph wrote...

I don't need to accept any change I don't like. 


Mankind in a nutshell. 

As for the rest ... I'm glad you liked the game, I loved it, but this argument has been strangled so many times on this forum that I could almost quote what everyone is going to say from memory.  Better if we just try to avoid another one of these threads.

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I enjoy a variety of games, so it's not the change that bothered me.
Dragon Age 2 is a game that has a lot of re-used content and copy-paste areas, combat is either dull and boring or frustrating... Origins is not perfect too, but it had a lot of story and content in general, I've just come to forgive bad combat in Origins.
Also, story in DA2 is linear and full of stupid moments that make your character look and feel like an idiot. I accept such stuff in games like Oblivion, because you have a large world to explore, lots of quests, lots of loot etc. With DA2 I've been offered bad story, small copy-paste world, boring loot and boring combat. Where is the good stuff, you known stuff I'm supposed to enjoy?
DA2 is your typical 5/10 game - mediocre. And lets be honest about the facts: EA and Bioware sold this mediocre game using hype built upon a much larger and overall better game - DAO. It's even called DA2, so that your ordinary people coming to a store would think not that it's a spin-off, but a sequel to DAO.

Ok, just to be clear - DA2 is no Vampire Rain, it's not horribly bad. It's bland, shallow and mediocre. And sold as a sequel to a good game, rich in content. If you say that DA2 is just as good as DAO... It's a lie. Plain and simple. It's basically DAO Lite, 1/5 of DAO content.

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Melca36 wrote...

Wusword77 wrote...

erynnar wrote...

To stay on topic: No DA2 is not a better game than DAO, it can't be by virtue of it's dev time alone. Did you, and others still enjoy it more (despite its flaws than you did DAO and its?)? Good, but all that means is it was a better game for you, and in the end, that is all that matters on a personal level.


By that claim Duke Nukem Forever is the best game ever. :lol:  In fact it's over TWICE as good as DA:O because it's had more then twice the development cycle.

I enjoyed DA2 much more then DA:O.  I think DA:O was a solid game but it feels old, like I was supposed to be playing it a decade ago.  Plus reading this boards just confirms my suspicion that DA:O is overrated in the gaming world.





Overrated in your opinion.  Funny how you forget it was game of the year for a reason.


Funny, at Spikes VGA's DA:O only took best PC game and Best RPG.  Game of the Year went to Uncharted 2, and Game of the year didn't have DA:O in it's running.  Same goes for IGN, which gave numerous awards to DA:O but still didn't give the "Game of Year" award.  DA:O took PC Game of the Year, XBOX360 RPG of the Year, Best Story of the Year, and Best PC RPG of the Year.  IGN didn't even give it RPG of the Year on PS3, it lost that the Demon's Souls.  In fact that only "Game of the Year" awards DA:O got was from PC Gamer (same as DA:O getting PC Game of the Year), Spawn Kill (Spawnkill.com hasn't had an update in 5 months so make of that award what you will) and UFO gamers (http://ufogamers.co.uk/main/ a British review site).

What the box for DA:O should read is "RPG of the Year" or "PC Game of the Year."  Calling it Game of the Year is a bit of a stretch.

I'd also like to point out Borderlands and Uncharted 2, both released in 2009, got a Game of the Year re-release.  So we had 3 GotY awards given that year and 2 of them to multiplatform titles.  Yeah, seeing GotY on a box holds a lot of weight  ;)

Modifié par Wusword77, 17 juillet 2011 - 10:41 .


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Awards

The Academy of Interactive Arts & Science's awarded Dragon Age as the "Role-Playing/Massively Multiplayer Game of the Year 2009".[19]
At the 2009 Spike Video Game Awards, Dragon Age: Origins received the Best PC Game and Best RPG awards.
Dragon Age Origins was chosen as the PC Game of the Year,[102] Best Xbox 360 RPG of the Year,[103] Best Story of the Year,[104] and Best PC Role-Playing Game of the Year by IGN.[105]
The game received Giant Bomb's Best PC Game of 2009 award.[106]
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 and RPG of the Year awards from U.S. PC Gamer.[107]
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 award from Spawn Kill.[108]
UFO Gamers awarded the game with both game of the year 2009 and best RPG of 2009 in its Golden Saucers Awards.[109]
Dragon Age: Origins received AbleGamers Foundation Most Accessibility Mainstream Game of 2009 [110] making it the most accessible game for gamers with disabilities for 2009.
Dragon Age: Origins received best rookie title of 2009 from the Swedish "Guldstickan" (The Golden Joystick)

So, only MTV's Goty counts? I See several "Game of the Year" awards under DAO's belt. And a lot of other accolades as well.

I had a wish I could spend only on a video game, it would be for DA2 to live up to its epic potential and win even more of those awards.

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erynnar wrote...

Awards

The Academy of Interactive Arts & Science's awarded Dragon Age as the "Role-Playing/Massively Multiplayer Game of the Year 2009".[19]  Game of the Year for a small category of games
At the 2009 Spike Video Game Awards, Dragon Age: Origins received the Best PC Game and Best RPG awards.
Dragon Age Origins was chosen as the PC Game of the Year,[102] Best Xbox 360 RPG of the Year,[103] Best Story of the Year,[104] and Best PC Role-Playing Game of the Year by IGN.[105] Didn't get an overall Game of the Year.  Was given awards in limited categories and it didn't even win Story of the Year (http://bestof.ign.co...best-story.html)
The game received Giant Bomb's Best PC Game of 2009 award.[106]  Again, Best game on PC, so it didn't measure up to games on other systems.
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 and RPG of the Year awards from U.S. PC Gamer.[107]  Game of the Year from a magazine that only focuses on PC games.  Not an overall Game of the Year Award
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 award from Spawn Kill.[108]  A real GotY award but it's from a small website that doesn't even seem to be running anymore.  Not much stock to put in that award then.
UFO Gamers awarded the game with both game of the year 2009 and best RPG of 2009 in its Golden Saucers Awards.[109]  Real GotY from a UK game reviewing website.
Dragon Age: Origins received AbleGamers Foundation Most Accessibility Mainstream Game of 2009 [110] making it the most accessible game for gamers with disabilities for 2009.  Not a GotY award.
Dragon Age: Origins received best rookie title of 2009 from the Swedish "Guldstickan" (The Golden Joystick) Not a GotY award.

So, only MTV's Goty counts? I See several "Game of the Year" awards under DAO's belt. And a lot of other accolades as well.

I had a wish I could spend only on a video game, it would be for DA2 to live up to its epic potential and win even more of those awards.


I covered this in my previous post but I will do so again here.  I see only 2 full Game of the Year awards on that list, 1 from the UK and 1 from a website that hasn't had an update in 5 months (wouldn't put to much faith in that award then).  Most of the awards cover narrow genre's or platforms, like for example the PC RPG Game of the Year award.  When put into the catagory of Game of the Year DA:O failed to measure up to AC2, Uncahrted 2 (which took GotY), Cod: MW2, and Batman Arkham Asylum.

Further more Batman: Arkham Asylum, Borderlands, and Uncharted 2 all got Game of the Year re-releases.  We're supposed to put much stock in a Game of the Year title when there are 4 of them and 3 are multi-platform?

Modifié par Wusword77, 17 juillet 2011 - 11:32 .


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God I enjoy threads like these.

Morrigan's#1Lover wrote...
DA2! Rabble rabble rabble! I wanted Origins II and didn't get it, I don't like change! Rabble rabble rabble consoles and Call of Duty!



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erynnar wrote...
Um I don't play Duke so I can't say. :P But reused dungeons? Yeah DAO did too (playing it right now), all games do, but not to the extent DA2 did. Either DA2 suffered because of it's short dev cycle or it was just shoddy work. I prefer to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to too short a dev cycle. 


Definitely too short a dev cycle. I just played through the Sebastian quest in the Harriman estate and I was reminded how the cave in that quest is actually the same recycled cave but they've hidden it a lot better by  adding a lot more detail to the environment, things like the piles of skulls. They were obviously able to do that because they had more time to finish that DLC. 

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HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different?

Most. worn. out. argument. ever.

If that was true, I would have hated DA:O, since it was  so deliberately different  than  Bioware's previous RPGs... (such as Mass Effect 1,  Neverwinter Nights,   KOTOR, and the BG series.)

But I loved DA:O.  So no, there's got to be other reasons why people   disliked DA2.  And one need only spend 5 minutes skimming through just about  ANY thread on this forum to see the huge list  of reasons.  No need to put up the  silly  "You can't handle change!"  straw man argument. 

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Yrkoon wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different?

Most. worn. out. argument. ever.

If that was true, I would have hated DA:O, since it was  so deliberately different  than  Bioware's previous RPGs... (such as Mass Effect 1,  Neverwinter Nights,   KOTOR, and the BG series.)

But I loved DA:O.  So no, there's got to be other reasons why people   disliked DA2.  And one need only spend 5 minutes skimming through just about  ANY thread on this forum to see the huge list  of reasons.  No need to put up the  silly  "You can't handle change!"  straw man argument. 


Yeah, old argument. Really, really, really old.

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Wusword77 wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Awards

The Academy of Interactive Arts & Science's awarded Dragon Age as the "Role-Playing/Massively Multiplayer Game of the Year 2009".[19]  Game of the Year for a small category of games
At the 2009 Spike Video Game Awards, Dragon Age: Origins received the Best PC Game and Best RPG awards.
Dragon Age Origins was chosen as the PC Game of the Year,[102] Best Xbox 360 RPG of the Year,[103] Best Story of the Year,[104] and Best PC Role-Playing Game of the Year by IGN.[105] Didn't get an overall Game of the Year.  Was given awards in limited categories and it didn't even win Story of the Year (http://bestof.ign.co...best-story.html)
The game received Giant Bomb's Best PC Game of 2009 award.[106]  Again, Best game on PC, so it didn't measure up to games on other systems.
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 and RPG of the Year awards from U.S. PC Gamer.[107]  Game of the Year from a magazine that only focuses on PC games.  Not an overall Game of the Year Award
Dragon Age: Origins received the Game of the Year 2009 award from Spawn Kill.[108]  A real GotY award but it's from a small website that doesn't even seem to be running anymore.  Not much stock to put in that award then.
UFO Gamers awarded the game with both game of the year 2009 and best RPG of 2009 in its Golden Saucers Awards.[109]  Real GotY from a UK game reviewing website.
Dragon Age: Origins received AbleGamers Foundation Most Accessibility Mainstream Game of 2009 [110] making it the most accessible game for gamers with disabilities for 2009.  Not a GotY award.
Dragon Age: Origins received best rookie title of 2009 from the Swedish "Guldstickan" (The Golden Joystick) Not a GotY award.

So, only MTV's Goty counts? I See several "Game of the Year" awards under DAO's belt. And a lot of other accolades as well.

I had a wish I could spend only on a video game, it would be for DA2 to live up to its epic potential and win even more of those awards.


I covered this in my previous post but I will do so again here.  I see only 2 full Game of the Year awards on that list, 1 from the UK and 1 from a website that hasn't had an update in 5 months (wouldn't put to much faith in that award then).  Most of the awards cover narrow genre's or platforms, like for example the PC RPG Game of the Year award.  When put into the catagory of Game of the Year DA:O failed to measure up to AC2, Uncahrted 2 (which took GotY), Cod: MW2, and Batman Arkham Asylum.

Further more Batman: Arkham Asylum, Borderlands, and Uncharted 2 all got Game of the Year re-releases.  We're supposed to put much stock in a Game of the Year title when there are 4 of them and 3 are multi-platform?


Perhaps ery had a point in highlighting those lines afterall. That being even then, DA2 still gets its ass handed to itself by the fact that Origins garned even those, when it will be revealed by year's end, that DA2 didn't get even a mention. If DA2 does get mentioned, it would be only in the RPG category and the fact that many RPGs may have not come out by time the nominations happen. When Skyrim, Deus Ex: HR come out, I suspect it won't make the list of nominees.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 18 juillet 2011 - 12:15 .


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If this had been a stand alone game, without dragon age in it's name.. and by some other developer :P it would probably have been recieved better

but this game was following Origins.. and bioware did it

thats why people dislike it so much, they breathed new life into a style of game that many people really enjoy.. then made a sequel which just wasn't what people wanted

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Wusword77 wrote...

erynnar wrote...

To stay on topic: No DA2 is not a better game than DAO, it can't be by virtue of it's dev time alone. Did you, and others still enjoy it more (despite its flaws than you did DAO and its?)? Good, but all that means is it was a better game for you, and in the end, that is all that matters on a personal level.


By that claim Duke Nukem Forever is the best game ever. :lol:  In fact it's over TWICE as good as DA:O because it's had more then twice the development cycle.

I enjoyed DA2 much more then DA:O.  I think DA:O was a solid game but it feels old, like I was supposed to be playing it a decade ago.  Plus reading this boards just confirms my suspicion that DA:O is overrated in the gaming world.




Origins is a huge seller with many fans. For months i have checked the sales rankings on Amazon.com for Xbox 360 and DA:O UE has been consistently ahead of DA2 in sales rankings. For months and months DA:O has been head to head with it's sequel and outselling it on the primary platform (Xbox 360 gets the most sales) at one of the the, if not the, major online retailer of video games.

Head to head  for months on end DA:O has outsold DA2. I can't even think of another game that had a sequel that was consistently outsold by its predecessor. Overrated my arse.

EDIT: And I mean concurrently outselling, not just total sales numbers. DA:O UE has been outranking DA2 in DAILY sales every single day that i have checked for months (and that is most days).

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HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

 DA 2 is better,i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different,you need to except the changes.Origins was an epic game.DA 2 isn't,its better,its not so epic but its personal,emotional and much great other things.If you exept that DA 2 is not meant to be a clone of origins,but something unique and great,youl see that DA2 is great and different from origins.I love both games, 10/10 for both games.But i like 2 a little bit more cuz of isabella :DDD.Why do some of you hate the story,compainons and the advanture of DA 2.I understand repetable enviroment and enemies appearing out of thin air.But if you ignore that the game has Epic sountrack,Awesome companions...Why do you hate  it?


there is a long list of threads in the forum on why people hated it but here's a short version

Companions blow
"awesome button concept".
the gore was to much people dont explode when you hit them with a sword.
  the art and battle animations
graphics blow
no depth
****ty dialouge wheel.
and the highlighted portion of your quote
mainly its the no depth thing... that killed it for me.

there

Modifié par Alexander1136, 18 juillet 2011 - 01:07 .


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HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

 DA 2 is better,i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different,you need to except the changes.Origins was an epic game.DA 2 isn't,its better,its not so epic but its personal,emotional and much great other things.If you exept that DA 2 is not meant to be a clone of origins,but something unique and great,youl see that DA2 is great and different from origins.I love both games, 10/10 for both games.But i like 2 a little bit more cuz of isabella :DDD.Why do some of you hate the story,compainons and the advanture of DA 2.I understand repetable enviroment and enemies appearing out of thin air.But if you ignore that the game has Epic sountrack,Awesome companions...Why do you hate  it?


your points just go all over the place...
Is it just because of Isabella?  Because she was in Origins too (just as a cameo but there you go)
Sure I CAN ignore repated dungeons and enemies appearing out of thin air... but here's the thing I shouldn't have to.
Don't use the story as a positive because it sucks period.  It doesn't go anywhere.  Oh look I have choices to make that all lead to the same thing no matter what I do!
Oh yeah and the ending was deliberatlly bad for DLC or sequel.
I like the game but I like it despite its flaws but being aware of them and still giving it a perfect score is flat out fanboyism. As a stand alone game I could accept this game more might even like it more but as the next game in the DA saga it doesn't stack up.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

 DA 2 is better,i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different,you need to except the changes.Origins was an epic game.DA 2 isn't,its better,its not so epic but its personal,emotional and much great other things.If you exept that DA 2 is not meant to be a clone of origins,but something unique and great,youl see that DA2 is great and different from origins.I love both games, 10/10 for both games.But i like 2 a little bit more cuz of isabella :DDD.Why do some of you hate the story,compainons and the advanture of DA 2.I understand repetable enviroment and enemies appearing out of thin air.But if you ignore that the game has Epic sountrack,Awesome companions...Why do you hate  it?


your points just go all over the place...
Is it just because of Isabella?  Because she was in Origins too (just as a cameo but there you go)
Sure I CAN ignore repated dungeons and enemies appearing out of thin air... but here's the thing I shouldn't have to.
Don't use the story as a positive because it sucks period.  It doesn't go anywhere.  Oh look I have choices to make that all lead to the same thing no matter what I do!
Oh yeah and the ending was deliberatlly bad for DLC or sequel.
I like the game but I like it despite its flaws but being aware of them and still giving it a perfect score is flat out fanboyism. As a stand alone game I could accept this game more might even like it more but as the next game in the DA saga it doesn't stack up.

+1

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It really isnt.

I for one wanted change, i realised that DA2 wouldnt be DAO and i was excited for this but its like they looked at all the great thinsg for DAO and took them away. the choice, the character interaction and the amazing story and that feeling of purpose.

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I know retailers, have been trying to get rid of it. Out of all the AAA titles this year,the price drop in DA2 after only 2/3 months says alot. I talked tot he guy over the counter,and he said: They just cant get rid of them, hence the price drop. The ironic thing is, that game is the highest trade in game of the year at my store. Accept that OP!

I worry for the mass effect fans, I really do. If they screw that up, the damage is done,bioware will never recover.

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Alexander1136 wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

 DA 2 is better,i think people hate DA 2 just beacouse its different,you need to except the changes.Origins was an epic game.DA 2 isn't,its better,its not so epic but its personal,emotional and much great other things.If you exept that DA 2 is not meant to be a clone of origins,but something unique and great,youl see that DA2 is great and different from origins.I love both games, 10/10 for both games.But i like 2 a little bit more cuz of isabella :DDD.Why do some of you hate the story,compainons and the advanture of DA 2.I understand repetable enviroment and enemies appearing out of thin air.But if you ignore that the game has Epic sountrack,Awesome companions...Why do you hate  it?


there is a long list of threads in the forum on why people hated it but here's a short version

Companions blow
"awesome button concept".
the gore was to much people dont explode when you hit them with a sword.
  the art and battle animations
graphics blow
no depth
****ty dialouge wheel.
and the highlighted portion of your quote
mainly its the no depth thing... that killed it for me.

there


Short List - let me add to it.

Recycled Enviorments
Race Customization removed
Customizable Companions Limited
Weapon Restrictions Added
Frame Narative
Three Short Stories - disjointed
Dead City of Kirkwall - seriously the zombie Darkspawn should have been based here.
Tedious waves of Ninjas and Paratroopers

Companions that interacted more with the Malbari - but hey at least we didn't have to listen to how many times Garrus had to complete his calibrations.

Fish People and Donkey people that were added - err I mean the new elves
Mutated Zombie Clowns - aka Darkspawn
Lack of Exploration
Delivering Pants and Ribcages for a few silver - and no it’s not the little reward that sucks
Lack of Choices/Consequences

I could add more - but I'm busy playing Origins again.

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Yuqi wrote...

I know retailers, have been trying to get rid of it. Out of all the AAA titles this year,the price drop in DA2 after only 2/3 months says alot. I talked tot he guy over the counter,and he said: They just cant get rid of them, hence the price drop. The ironic thing is, that game is the highest trade in game of the year at my store. Accept that OP!

I worry for the mass effect fans, I really do. If they screw that up, the damage is done,bioware will never recover.


They will recover, they just wont have their old fan base anymore.

Basicly the takeover from EA will be complete.

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ME3 will determine whether I purchase anything from Bioware or EA ever again. If Shepard's story is not concluded and is strung out for DLC's or another sequel I will rage quit Bioware and EA for life.

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Medhia Nox

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Dragon Age 2 was easily the worst CRPG I've ever played.

I will not purchase any DLC for it - and I will wait some time after ME 3 is released to purchase that game because of DA 2's poor quality.

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Blessed Silence

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BanksHector wrote...

If it was not for Act 3, I would agree it was as good as DA:O. I do wish they handled the family different, but I did not have any problems other then that.

I take that back. I really missed Orghen.


Act3 was a big let down on some parts for me.  Can't say about what since no spoilers area ... but some stories and ending felt like ... WTF moments.

I did enjoy having a special Origin in DA:O.  Do I miss that in DA2?  Not really.  I do miss the anytime banter though and not just specific plot points that DA2 has.

And boo on Isabella ... yay on Anders and Sebastian!

Oh and Varric!

And Aveline!  She was awesome!

Modifié par Blessed Silence, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:02 .