So the Asari on Illium says that genetic material is not taken but used as a map to mix it up. So if Liara and Shep have a child, Shepard is the father but not a biological parent, only Liara is. Is this correct? No matter what how many children she has, Shep is the 'father' but never the biological parent and the children only have one parent. Liara. So here comes another question, how would an Asari trace their heritage if one of their granparents was another species? They are not related at all. Can someone explain to me about this? It seems Shep will die childless with Liara.
how is the asari child situation work?
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King Minos
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:25
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Im more confused about the blue baby thing. How long do they stay as babies?
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:28
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Well Liara said that a part of each parent lives on in each generation.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:31
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how is it possible for an asari to tap into the mind? And view the genetics and just pick what they want as traits for the child? Is it like a shop? Pick which sweet goes into the bag? Strange creatures they are.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:35
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Shadowspli er, that does not explain if shep is the biological parent or not.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:37
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I simply believe that asari can decide when they become pregnant.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:50
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Does anyone know? The codex does not help.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:52
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From Mass Effect Wikia "This reproductive process can lead to some confusion among non-asari, who might expect offspring with "mixed" genes. However, the offspring is always 100% asari as no DNA is taken from the partner, but is rather used as a "map" to randomize the genes of the offspring."
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 04:59
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So shep will never be a parent. I admit I did a quick look and scan, must of missed that. Nice to know shep will die childless if in a relation with Liara. Thanks for clearing that up Thatguy212.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:06
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Shepard will be a parent, just not a biological one, he'll be the reason she got pregnant but genetically it won't be his child
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:14
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expanding on the point regarding heritage, I can only imagine that, as it is a matriarchal society and that the "father" is not technically a biological parent, all heritage is taken from the mothers side. I don't know if there is a codex entry about this and I can't check as Iam on my phome and not my pc.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:18
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They just use your standard space magic hokum pokum.King Minos wrote...
how is it possible for an asari to tap into the mind? And view the genetics and just pick what they want as traits for the child? Is it like a shop? Pick which sweet goes into the bag? Strange creatures they are.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:21
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Shepard would always be a mother/father to any children.
Her/his contribution to the 'parentage' is in being a randomiser for Liara's DNA, which is then passed onto the baby.
It's about as close as Shepard can come to being a parent of a child that is essentially a carbon copy of its asari parent, with randomised genes.
Regarding the 'asari mind mating thing', it's never really explained very well and it all looks completely unrealistic. We just have to assume that some kind of incredible, stupendous mental abilities allow asari to latch onto any species' nervous systems and access their memories. Somehow.
Her/his contribution to the 'parentage' is in being a randomiser for Liara's DNA, which is then passed onto the baby.
It's about as close as Shepard can come to being a parent of a child that is essentially a carbon copy of its asari parent, with randomised genes.
Regarding the 'asari mind mating thing', it's never really explained very well and it all looks completely unrealistic. We just have to assume that some kind of incredible, stupendous mental abilities allow asari to latch onto any species' nervous systems and access their memories. Somehow.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:22
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Without going to deep into human biology, we get half of our genes from each parent but which traits we inherent depends on which genes are dominant, its been a long time since i studied biology but as i vaguely recall to have blond hair both your parents have to pass you the non-dominant gene for that, if one of your parents give you the gene for black hair which is dominant over blond then the kid gets black hair.
So with Asari i would assume you get all the genes from the mother but which genes become dominant i would guess are determined by the randomisation of the other parent.
Although attempting to apply real science to sci-fi is generally a fail
So with Asari i would assume you get all the genes from the mother but which genes become dominant i would guess are determined by the randomisation of the other parent.
Although attempting to apply real science to sci-fi is generally a fail
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:27
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But from what I read, it is impossible for the non asari or asari 'father's be the parent, no genetic DNA like sperm or egg is taken. The 'father' asari or non asari father will never be related to the child no matter what. They just helped by giving ideas to mix up the traits, not by giving genetic material to help the egg cella become the child.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:32
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King Minos wrote...
But from what I read, it is impossible for the non asari or asari 'father's be the parent, no genetic DNA like sperm or egg is taken. The 'father' asari or non asari father will never be related to the child no matter what. They just helped by giving ideas to mix up the traits, not by giving genetic material to help the egg cella become the child.
Yes, so not a parent by human standards.
But the randomisation caused by one person's set of genes to the asari DNA might be completely djfferent to what would occur with another parent.
From the wiki: " [The mind meld] allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring. During mating an asari and her partner share memories, thoughts, and feelings."
It appears asari have some conscious control over which traits are 'randomised', hence no two parents would produce the same type of children.
Honestly, some of the explanations contradict each other. But it's safe to say that the parent species (and even more so the parent individual) has an effect on the child.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:34
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King Minos wrote...
But from what I read, it is impossible for the non asari or asari 'father's be the parent, no genetic DNA like sperm or egg is taken. The 'father' asari or non asari father will never be related to the child no matter what. They just helped by giving ideas to mix up the traits, not by giving genetic material to help the egg cella become the child.
Correct.
The Asari way of mating is everything but asexual. They still need a partner, but all the DNA comes from the mother, the mother just scrambles said DNA via mapping the "fathers" by tapping into the nervous system.
So while shep will be the father, none of his DNA will pass on, and if shep doesn't get pregnant/donate to a sperm bank, its the end of his genetic line. (if the spacer mom doesn't reproduce, but still)
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:37
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Asari have nice hairless azures. They don't even have to shave them, cause they have no hair on their body. Ideal girlfriend! I'd screw an asari if I had an opportunity.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:00
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FERMi27 wrote...
Asari have nice hairless azures. They don't even have to shave them, cause they have no hair on their body. Ideal girlfriend! I'd screw an asari if I had an opportunity.
The fact we have no idea what an azure is means your sentence is potentially hilarious.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:03
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That is what I wanted to know, it's the end of sheps genetic line if he/she does not have a build with another human. Shep will never be the parent of liara's children. Liara practically had sex and got pregnant by herself. Thanks nashkital, just something I needed go find out as like someone said, the explanations contradict themselves, but I am guessing that the writers will end creating something for the liara or asari fans that the child is thief child as well.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:03
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FERMi27 wrote...
Asari have nice hairless azures. They don't even have to shave them, cause they have no hair on their body. Ideal girlfriend! I'd screw an asari if I had an opportunity.
Not to drop the tone or anything but those freaky black eyes would freak me out so i'm thinking a lot of asari banging would be doggy style
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:05
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Also, they have eyelashes, therefore not entirely hairless ^^
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:09
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MoogleNut wrote...
Also, they have eyelashes, therefore not entirely hairless ^^
Not to mention they have evolved to not have physical sex, so it might not even be pleasant at all to try to have sex with them that way, shaved or not.
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:11
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I honestly don't understand the big problem here. So what Shepard's genes aren't in there, he is still the father. The way I see it, his line is being carried on, just in a different way. The Asari don't just take after genes, they are literally affected by the personalities and ideals of their parents, i.e. the Illium Bartender on her Krogan Father and Liara on Matriarch Benezia. In this sense, Shepard's line will carry on. But really, I wouldn't even care about that, the fact of the matter is that they are his daughters no matter what, and whatever the genes are, they are still his daughters, his family, his line. Then again, this is coming from uber Liara fan, faithful to the max. XD
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 06:12
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ShadowSplicer wrote...
I honestly don't understand the big problem here. So what Shepard's genes aren't in there, he is still the father. The way I see it, his line is being carried on, just in a different way. The Asari don't just take after genes, they are literally affected by the personalities and ideals of their parents, i.e. the Illium Bartender on her Krogan Father and Liara on Matriarch Benezia. In this sense, Shepard's line will carry on. But really, I wouldn't even care about that, the fact of the matter is that they are his daughters no matter what, and whatever the genes are, they are still his daughters, his family, his line. Then again, this is coming from uber Liara fan, faithful to the max. XD
I foresee a nature/nurture arguement in the brewing there
