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She was loyal to shepad because Cerberus said they could bring her or him back, if Cerberus never said that, she could of ended up with feron.

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Wait, if its a map - its Sheps kid. 'cos Shep's the map, and thus - the kid is his. Even though with 100% asari genes

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If she returns to being SB or archaeologist after ME3, it wouldn't be implausible for her not to have had intimate relations with any other living being

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lietk12 wrote...

If she returns to being SB or archaeologist after ME3, it wouldn't be implausible for her not to have had intimate relations with any other living being


It wouldn't be implausible for her to remain celibate for 800 or 900 years?

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LTiberious wrote...

Wait, if its a map - its Sheps kid. 'cos Shep's the map, and thus - the kid is his. Even though with 100% asari genes


If it doesn't have any of your genetic material then it is not your child.

It's about as much "your kid" as an android made to look identical to you would be. Or a statue, or a painting. Only in this case its an ugly little blue hellspawn from space.

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EternalPink wrote...

You on the other hand are saying that because genetic material isn't exchanged it is asexual but this ignores that they can not reproduce on there own.


It's about the "low-level" mechanisms involved, not behaviors.  For instance (and to correct an error in my earlier post about it explictly requiring two individual organisms), there's self-pollination in plants: still sexual due to the fact that gametes are formed and combined.  If a species reproduces via production of different kinds of gamete (though they may not look different), it's generally considered sexual reproduction, even if sometimes only a single organism is involved.

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There is no geneic material being shard to create the child, practically impossible for Gemayel as obviously females produc eggs but if it was male shep and his sperm was used to create the child then yes man shep is the father but unfortunately asari don't need genetic material. Eggs and sperm are geneti material and are not used in the creation of an asari child.

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Sorry for spelling, iPod touch has a bad autocorrect feature and when I try to spell car or bannana autochech replaces it with another word

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Han Shot First wrote...


Trying to explain the Asari with science is an excercise in futility. They were created with fan service in mind, not hard science. They allow the player to roleplay Captain Kirk and shag the green alien babe.


True on the "fan-service" bit, but you can actually come up with a somewhat quasi-plausible natural history for them.  I like to think in their pre-sentient past they were a standard, sexually reproducing species, complete with males and everything.  Hence all the sexually reproductive accoutrements like wombs, live-birth, sex drives and mating behaviors.  At some point a population within that ancestral species gained the ability to reproduce parthenogentically, but still required the whole reproduction "ritual" to get the embryo "rolling", as it were.  Now, instead of this aspect of their biology withering away into vestigiality or being outright eliminated, it instead got co-opted for social cohesion purposes (not unlike, say, bonobos here on earth). Much, much later, of course, they discovered that it worked with non-asari as well.  Thus, the sexually-active-yet-all-female race we see in the ME present. 

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Really? Its hinted at pretty strongly that Liara was in some sort of romantic entanglement on her end with that drell in LotSB, in fact she says she will work towards it if shep doesn't romance Liara. 


The entirety of their relationship is covered in Redemption, and it wasn't about romance at all. Her going after the Broker was about guilt over Feron sacrificing himself so Liara could get out with the Shepcorpse, plus all her issues w/ Shep dying and not knowing what to do with herself anymore.  She didn't even really like or trust the guy at all for most of their time together (which amounted to a few days), which is part of why she felt so bad after she was forced to leave him behind.

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Shepard's going to die long before Liara enters matron stage anyways. She's not even 100, and most asari begin thinking about settling down and raising children around 300-400 years old. Shepard will long since be dust by then.

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marshalleck wrote...

Shepard's going to die long before Liara enters matron stage anyways. She's not even 100, and most asari begin thinking about settling down and raising children around 300-400 years old. Shepard will long since be dust by then.

Liara is over 100 years old :whistle:

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thatguy212 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Shepard's going to die long before Liara enters matron stage anyways. She's not even 100, and most asari begin thinking about settling down and raising children around 300-400 years old. Shepard will long since be dust by then.

Liara is over 100 years old :whistle:


You sure? She'd only been researching the Protheans for some 50 years when Shepard met her in ME1. And she started that project soon, if not immediately after uni. She's very young still for an asari, definitely on the early end of maiden stage. She's not matron and won't be until many years after Shepard has died. 

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Liara says she's 106 at the end of LOTSB.

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marshalleck wrote...

thatguy212 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Shepard's going to die long before Liara enters matron stage anyways. She's not even 100, and most asari begin thinking about settling down and raising children around 300-400 years old. Shepard will long since be dust by then.

Liara is over 100 years old :whistle:


You sure? She'd only been researching the Protheans for some 50 years when Shepard met her in ME1. And she started that project soon, if not immediately after uni. She's very young still for an asari. 



She makes a comment about being a hundred and something, i remember it because ash says "damn i hope i look that good when i'm a hundred"

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Ah, okay. So literally just a hair past 100. Big deal, what I said about her entering matron stage centuries after Shepard's death is correct.

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One thing I never got is what determines who's the "father" between an Asari/Asari pairing and how do they avoid getting both preggers?

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I think one of them consciously decides to become pregnant.

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I agree, eithe the one who starts the embrace eternity becomes pregnant or the one who does not say embrace eternity.

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Asari - the worst fanservice alien race I've seen.

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God i would wreck ..yes wreckkkk an asari babe ..if only ...

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So basically if an asari were an ipod, it would need another asari to press the play button; if they encounter another species, that species puts it on shuffle. Then the resulting song is a baby asari.

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Pardon the late question - iirc Liara tells Shepard that reproduction doesn't necessarily require physical contact. I'm assuming that she means the genetic material is taken through the mind meld?

I'm wondering if they can actually reproduce before their matron years or if it requires that level of developed mental skills (as it were) before they can?

(Apologies if this has been covered but my quick read of the thread didn't ferret it out).

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Avilia wrote...

Pardon the late question - iirc Liara tells Shepard that reproduction doesn't necessarily require physical contact. I'm assuming that she means the genetic material is taken through the mind meld?

I'm wondering if they can actually reproduce before their matron years or if it requires that level of developed mental skills (as it were) before they can?

(Apologies if this has been covered but my quick read of the thread didn't ferret it out).


There is no genetic material taken from the father.

The melding simply ****s up the puzzle of the mother and connects her DNA in different ways.