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[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Dia2blo wrote...

^Yeah i'm sorry but I don't understand a word of that... O_o

The Yakshi-Ardat, are generated only when the Asari in pregnancy do not lead a life suited to their condition.

[Dia2blo]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn is a native Italian speaker...

That's cool, I was just hoping maybe someone else could explain? 



EDIT: The Yakshi-Ardat, are generated only when the Asari in pregnancy do not lead a life suited to their condition.

What sort of conditions? I'm sure this was explained to me in game, I just must be going mad.

Modifié par Dia2blo, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:59 .

[didymos1120]

Spectre 117 wrote...

My bad honestly I swear I seen that on the SB dossier she couldn't give birth.Of course it's been a while since I played ME2 so I need to check that up again,either way thanks for clarifying that up.

She might not be able to give birth.  But then, neither could her father and he still managed to have multiple clone offspring.  If that's the case, then she and Shep could go the surrogate route.  Or maybe they have artificial wombs in the ME-verse.  In fact, now that I think about it, they kinda have to have them: tank-bred krogan don't have mommies after all.  Don't see why you couldn't make that technology work for humans.

[didymos1120]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

The Yakshi-Ardat, are generated only when the Asari in pregnancy do not lead a life suited to their condition.

No, they result from asari-asari pairings.  And then only very rarely and for poorly understood reasons.

[InvincibleHero]

didymos1120 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Well if you look at the illium bartender she has scales because her father was krogan. If you look at the asari daughters with slarians they also have iddferent marking on them.

Basically all asari have markings of some sort, and the notion that they match the father species doesn't really hold up. It's not even clear whether they're cosmetics or not (at least some of them have to be, as they're way too regular).  And the "scales" aren't unique to Aethyta.  Many asari have scale-like patterns on the scalp and the back of the neck that range from more: Samara/Morinth, Nelyna and even Liara. All purebloods.

You have to admit it is quite a bit more pronounced. Now look at the two cases on on citadel in souvenir shop and one in illium where it has a father salarian with daughter asari. Note the similarities. It cannot be just coincidence.

Can a pureblood never have had a krogan or turian progenitor? It just states when two asari mate. So that tells little.

[Dia2blo]

didymos1120 wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

The Yakshi-Ardat, are generated only when the Asari in pregnancy do not lead a life suited to their condition.

No, they result from asari-asari pairings.  And then only very rarely and for poorly understood reasons.

See that's what I thought: that they were a genetic mutation of sorts. If that's the case, how can that happen if the genes from one parent don't actually pass on?

Colour me confused.

[Praetor Knight]

Dia2blo wrote...

Colour me confused.

Indeed.



The key seems to be with how the randomization works.

[Goneaviking]

GodWood wrote...

ShadowSplicer wrote...

GodWood wrote...
If you want to annoy [some] Liara fans talk about all the partners she's going to have after Shepard

I doubt it, she went pretty insane after Shepard died, and remained loyal even with Feron there. I think she won't be able to let Shepard go like that, even after his death. She keeps saying how Asari must look at their relationships differently, and then she totally goes against that ideal when she strives so hard to bring him back. I love how we're still posting here.

"Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt."

Come on bro, she's not going to stay chaste for 700+ years.

Let her have her hot elcor sex.

I just assumed that she'd clone a replacement Shepherd for when the first one expired.

Just in case the Reapers come back, or she gets lonely, or because she's a little overly focussed on her first boy/girlfriend.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

The Asari in bar on Illium, says she is the daughter of a Krogan, in fact, has red eyes and type of scales along the sides of the forehead.

[didymos1120]

Dia2blo wrote...

Also, how do the Ardat-Yakshi come about if "pure-bloods" are genetically no different to other asari?

That can't really be answered without knowing the details of melding.  Best we can say is that either something about an asari-asari pairing makes particular genetic changes possible: e.g., maybe melding with other species never triggers alterations to those sections of DNA. Or that an asari-asari pairing ocassionally fails to alter the genes responsible: i.e. it requires the child to carry identical copies of various genes.  And it'd have to be multiple genes in combination, because otherwise they'd know exactly what caused AY syndrome.  Plus, it's said to be a spectrum disorder, such that not everyone with AY traits turns into someone like Morinth. You don't get that if it's just a simple "on-off" switch controlled by a single gene.

There's also the possibility that the asari are wrong and AY are possible with mixed-species meldings, but for whatever reason it happens even less frequently or they just don't end up with the full-blown Morinth-style version of the syndrome.  They've been shown to wrong about this reproduction stuff before, after all.

ETA: Also, we don't know if there's epigenetic stuff going on that also contributes to the disease.  It might be possible to have all the necessary genetics in place, but the syndrome never develops because some other factor has fiddled with gene expression.

Modifié par didymos1120, 18 juillet 2011 - 06:26 .

[thatguy212]

InvincibleHero wrote...
You have to admit it is quite a bit more pronounced. Now look at the two cases on on citadel in souvenir shop and one in illium where it has a father salarian with daughter asari. Note the similarities. It cannot be just coincidence.
Can a pureblood never have had a krogan or turian progenitor? It just states when two asari mate. So that tells little.

That Salarian isn't the "father" of the asari, he mentions she's from her mother's firstmate, which we don't even know what race he was, so yes its just a coincidence

[InvincibleHero]

thatguy212 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...
You have to admit it is quite a bit more pronounced. Now look at the two cases on on citadel in souvenir shop and one in illium where it has a father salarian with daughter asari. Note the similarities. It cannot be just coincidence.
Can a pureblood never have had a krogan or turian progenitor? It just states when two asari mate. So that tells little.

That Salarian isn't the "father" of the asari, he mentions she's from her mother's firstmate, which we don't even know what race he was, so yes its just a coincidence

Then assume with a another salarian since they live 40 years and asari live 1000 or so. He is apparently the current "husband" of her mother from the conversation.

It seems to me consistency in art direction. It isn't that noticeable unless you look for it. I just noticed similarities in my most recent ME2 playthroughs 4th and 5th. I don't believe in coincidence. It has defined art styles to the various archetypes of asari.

[Hydralisk]

Stop saying crap like "Shepard will never be a parent". Being a parent has nothing to do with DNA.

[ShadowSplicer]

Celrath wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Can we conclude the science is soft and move on?
Although a dark part of my soul would like to see my avatar on an Asari body.....

I love you.

[SilentNukee]

ShadowSplicer wrote...

Celrath wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Can we conclude the science is soft and move on?
Although a dark part of my soul would like to see my avatar on an Asari body.....

I love you.

LOL I also love you.

[Lotion Soronarr]

didymos1120 wrote...

True on the "fan-service" bit, but you can actually come up with a somewhat quasi-plausible natural history for them. 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:lol::lol:

[Praetor Knight]

SilentNukee wrote...

ShadowSplicer wrote...

Celrath wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Can we conclude the science is soft and move on?
Although a dark part of my soul would like to see my avatar on an Asari body.....

*snip*

I love you.

LOL I also love you.

I got that song from Peter Gabriel stuck in my head, seeing that pic.

In your eyes...

[King Minos]

I'm guessing that the bar matriarch has similarities to her krogan parent because her mother used a krogan dna 'map' so that produced an asari with krogan traits, but the krogan is not the biological parent and never will be because no krogan sperm was used, he helped by giving a map to create a unique asari. Nothing more. Ardat yakshi are created only when two asari meld together, it is however rare. They did accept them but when other species come into contact, the asari tried to downplay them because it would give them a bad image.

[Aipex8]

didymos1120 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


Trying to explain the Asari with science is an excercise in futility. They were created with fan service in mind, not hard science. They allow the player to roleplay Captain Kirk and shag the green alien babe.

True on the "fan-service" bit, but you can actually come up with a somewhat quasi-plausible natural history for them.  I like to think in their pre-sentient past they were a standard, sexually reproducing species, complete with males and everything.  Hence all the sexually reproductive accoutrements like wombs, live-birth, sex drives and mating behaviors.  At some point a population within that ancestral species gained the ability to reproduce parthenogentically, but still required the whole reproduction "ritual" to get the embryo "rolling", as it were.  Now, instead of this aspect of their biology withering away into vestigiality or being outright eliminated, it instead got co-opted for social cohesion purposes (not unlike, say, bonobos here on earth). Much, much later, of course, they discovered that it worked with non-asari as well.  Thus, the sexually-active-yet-all-female race we see in the ME present. 

This is how I assume the Asari evolved also. Regular male / female reproduction, then at some point they developed the ability to reproduce through the mind meld process which produced only female offspring, but since a male wasn't needed for this type of reproduction they rolled with it and eventually males ceased to exist. If a male could somehow exist today, they would be able to have a regular male/female biological child (which could male). That could be an interesting side plot.

It's funny to me that so many people worry about what Liara will do after Shepard dies of old age and how they sound jealous that a video game character may move on to other lovers after Shepard's death. Really?  No one ever comments on how Shepard will never have to trade Liara in for a newer model because she'll basically be a permanent "younger" woman. Sounds like an ideal situation for me!

One question... why is Liara the only Asari with eyebrows? Real eyebrows, not just markings where eyebrows would be.