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[memtz]

Edge loves JRPGs ?



Sure: Final Fantasy X: 6/10

Star Ocean 4: 4/10



Really, they don't like much RPGs. Their reviews for Mass Effect, Kotor, Baldur's Gate II are great considering their grading system. So some people here should stop their baseless accusations over JRPG favoritism and many people here like them, so respect that at least.



I stopped taking reviews personally a long time ago, you should too.

[LocTheToker]

Yeah IMO the best thing about reviews is if you dont like one groups reviews you dont ever have to look at any of theirs again. Deffinatly shouldnt take it personal. Lord knows you cant please everyone

[Malkut]

I don't even care about the score. I hate, HATE the term "Tolkien-esque" being applied to everything that has an elf and a battle in it. That's like calling Starcraft: Brood War "Shakespearean" because the ending is tragic. It's the sign of a lazy writer, and an even lazier reader.



It is low fantasy, it's what a lot of people were looking for when the purchased the game, and it's no more cliche by virtue of being in that genre than half the stuff they do like.

[Arsaidh]

Malkut wrote...

I don't even care about the score. I hate, HATE the term "Tolkien-esque" being applied to everything that has an elf and a battle in it. That's like calling Starcraft: Brood War "Shakespearean" because the ending is tragic. It's the sign of a lazy writer, and an even lazier reader.

It is low fantasy, it's what a lot of people were looking for when the purchased the game, and it's no more cliche by virtue of being in that genre than half the stuff they do like.

Yeah. I know I'm going off-topic here, but Dragon Age seems much more The Black Company than The Lord of the Rings... to me, anyway.

(Not familiar with the The Black Company? Check it out. Good stuff.)

[Rainen89]

OMFG dragonquest 8/10 what is wrong with these people!?

[Raxxman]

Just to chip in again, the IGN review is the biggest load of bollocks I've ever read, 3 paragraphs on the combat system declaring it 'complex' 'challenging' and '. There never comes a point where you can rest easy and casually run into battle without a care - every single fight in this game can kill you if you're not paying attention, no matter your level.' which simply is not true.



reguardless if you agree with the overall score of the review, the actual text just isn't true.



Guess they don't write reviews like they used to huh.

[lordskorrkeeper1]

I don't read or buy Magazines any more ever since the internet, I do miss my Nintendo Powers coming in the mail every month though. I never heard of Edge either, in my day it was Nintendo Power, Game Pro, Electric Gaming Monthly, PSM etc.

[egervari]

memtz wrote...

Edge loves JRPGs ?

Sure: Final Fantasy X: 6/10
Star Ocean 4: 4/10

Really, they don't like much RPGs. Their reviews for Mass Effect, Kotor, Baldur's Gate II are great considering their grading system. So some people here should stop their baseless accusations over JRPG favoritism and many people here like them, so respect that at least.

I stopped taking reviews personally a long time ago, you should too.

I never played star ocean 4... but final fantasy x was one of the better ones in the series, after disappointing 8 and 9, non-existent 11 and crappy 12. I would have given it at least an 8.5, if not a 9 as well. :/

[Inhuman one]

Edge: 1/10

[Appolo90]

Edge accomplished exactly what they hoped for thanks to OP! Now all of us know about their magazine.



You see, the only quick and dirty way for them to get more exposure (and thus make more money) is to bash the most popular games. Mission accomplished.

[Appolo90]

eisberg77 wrote...

Excpet for, if I ever saw them on the magazine rack, I now know not to waste my money on them.  Where as before this thread, if I ever saw it on the rack I would have picked up a copy, cause I always like to read these types of magazines, and this would have been a new one.

If anything, this would just stir people away from the magazine.

And that's you. Many people will see a big ol' DRAGON AGE 5/10 on the cover and become interested, especially if they haven't played the game. As much as I hate to think about it, most people have NOT played DA:O.

It's an advertising scam like any other. Just like Infinity Ward paying off sites and mags to give the game 9s and 10s. It's about exposure and the power the emdia holds over consumers.

[Zealuu]

Malkut wrote...

It is low fantasy, it's what a lot of people were looking for when the purchased the game, and it's no more cliche by virtue of being in that genre than half the stuff they do like.

I wouldn't class Dragon Age as being low fantasy - it's set in a completely separate universe from our own, abundant with magic and non-human humanoid races like elves and dwarves. A certain amount of grittyness, gore and people who are not strictly divided into sharply contrasted good and evil camps does not really constitute low fantasy, even though they tend to be elements of it.


As for the review - why does anyone still care about the gaming press? All that's left are European publications who aim to astound with spectacularly low or high grades for games which clearly do not deserve it (Dragon Age getting a 5 and MW2 getting a 9 or whatever showcases this perfectly), like Edge and Eurogamer, and paid-off, biased, and hype-blinded American "opinion" leaders like IGN and GameSpot. Neither should be trusted.

[PhantoMSouljaX]

Draetor wrote...

5/10 DA:O
9/10 MW:2

It's simple really. Some people do not have a single creative bone in their body, and do not have a clear imagination to make any sort of fictional writing interesting to them. Instead, they resort to "instant gratification" guns and explosions to bring excitement into their life. These kinds of reviewers are the same people who have probably never read a fictional book in their life and liked it.

Some people are not blessed by The Maker to have the mental capability to enjoy a fictional story, whether it be movie, book or game. I feel sorry for them.

Amen Sister Draetor.

[apoc_reg]

Edge and Eurogamer giving an RPG a bad score usually says to me "Buy buy buy"!
Eurogamer especially are simpletons... look at their Risen reviews (joke review for PC) for more proof

Modifié par apoc_reg, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:03 .

[Seraosha]

jynthor wrote...

memtz wrote...

Edge loves JRPGs ?

Sure: Final Fantasy X: 6/10
Star Ocean 4: 4/10

Really, they don't like much RPGs. Their reviews for Mass Effect, Kotor, Baldur's Gate II are great considering their grading system. So some people here should stop their baseless accusations over JRPG favoritism and many people here like them, so respect that at least.

I stopped taking reviews personally a long time ago, you should too.

spernus wrote...



Edge japanese rpg.

Final fantasy XII: 9/10
Final fantasy X-2: 7/10
Blue dragon: 6/10
Dragonquest VIII: 8/10
Demon's soul: 9/10
Persona 4: 9/10

Could be just me but those scores for the jrpg games seem pretty high.

You forgot:

Infinite Undiscovery - 6/10
Tales of Legendia - 5/10
The Last Remnant - 5/10

And how about these for the West?

KOTOR 2 - 7/10
Neverwinter Nights 2 - 8/10
World of Warcraft - 9/10

Ultimately, you can pull out any set of Edge review scores and see what you want to see. The same for any website or publication actually. Rather than there being any great conspiracy however, I would say that they simply reviewed DA, gave it the score they felt it deserved and that's that. The same for everything else.

[Malkut]

Zealuu wrote...

I wouldn't class Dragon Age as being low fantasy - it's set in a completely separate universe from our own, abundant with magic and non-human humanoid races like elves and dwarves. A certain amount of grittyness, gore and people who are not strictly divided into sharply contrasted good and evil camps does not really constitute low fantasy, even though they tend to be elements of it.

It is more "low fantasy" than "Tolkien-esque."

"My favorite part of Lord of the Rings is when Farmer Maggot kidnaps Rosey Cotton from her wedding to rape and torture her (as is his right as a landowner in the Shire)and Sam decapitates him in a shower of gore."

Q.E.D. Not Tolkien-esque.

Modifié par Malkut, 23 novembre 2009 - 06:14 .

[jameswraith]

they gave mass effect 6/10 and COD WOW as well. They gave the new prince of persia 5/10 too. EDGE are morons.

[keesio74]

As a long time CRPG player (going far back as Bard's Tale I and Ultima III), this is one of the best CRPG's I've ever played (tied with Wasteland and Ultima V so far in my book)



I haven't played a modern "real' CRPG in awhile so when I cracked open DAO, I was expecting a lot but I was completely blown away.

[Tamerlane94]

i dont think this really had a strong definition, it brings themes from high fantasy,dark fantasy and heroic fantasy and brings them all together to create something awesome

beware of pidgeon- holing every facet of existance

[Murphys_Law]

Malkut wrote...

I don't even care about the score. I hate, HATE the term "Tolkien-esque" being applied to everything that has an elf and a battle in it. That's like calling Starcraft: Brood War "Shakespearean" because the ending is tragic. It's the sign of a lazy writer, and an even lazier reader.

It is low fantasy, it's what a lot of people were looking for when the purchased the game, and it's no more cliche by virtue of being in that genre than half the stuff they do like.

I couldn't agree more.  Idiots and bad writers having a field day attacking a fantasy game that has some Tolkien elements.  Where were they to critque Mass Effect with it's Star Wars elements?  Newsflash: Generes are heavily ifluenced by their more popular/successful media, we don't need your genious insight to tell us this. 

It is such a wrong and idiotic statement I wonder if the reviewer even played the game for more than 5 hours or if he is standing on a soapbox ranting against the whole fantasy genre.  Dragon Age has so little in common with Tolkien beyond having elves, dwarfs (who by the way behave in a totally different manner), swords, and of course magic.  I wish this isn't the only review that I have heard that "gem" of a negative, but alas the stupidity of humanity knows no bounds.  I am hestitant to call most video game reviewers "writers" after reading most of the garabe posted on the land of tubes and other unknown maganizes.

[Seifz]

Wait...



FFXII got a 9/10 and FFX got only 6/10? Are you kidding me? That's absurd!