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[Hurrrr]

Aerundel wrote...

Pasted from another board:

"Past Edge WRPG scores for reference:

Mass Effect - 7/10
Jade Empire - 7/10
KotOR - 9/10
Baldur's Gate 2 - 8/10
The Witcher - 5/10
Morrowind - 6/10
Oblivion - 8/10
Fallout 3 - 7/10
Diablo - 7/10
Diablo II - 6/10 "

Agree with them all except the witcher which deserved a 2/10 imo.

[Twitchmonkey]

Hurrrr wrote...
Agree with them all except the witcher which deserved a 2/10 imo.

Damn it, the first part of that sentences in blasphemous fail, but the second part is so very win. I am conflicted.

[dearlyblvd]

Haasth wrote...

Falklol wrote...

They also gave Modern Warfare 2 a 9/10, so I wont believe anything they say.

There we go. As an owner of both games I will proclaim that Edge fails.
Modern Warfare 2 does not nearly deserve that score - it's a good game, true but not much of it is original or particularely interesting - and Dragon Age: Origins is highly underrated.

+1
I bought MW2 and I'm kinda disappointed with it. The multiplayer system (lack of dedicated servers) is bad for me as I live in South America and that is what this game is all about. I feel like MW2 ($60) was kinda a waste of money and DA:O ($65) was worth every penny.

[Hurrrr]

EDGE is THE industry standard magazine. They dont advertise games as much as jobs for the companies that MAKE the games.



Look, they aren't a normal mag. They don't do the 7-9 rating system as is usual of AAA games. They dont care for upstream or downstream gamers, and they certainly don't get caught up in fanboyism hype to the extent of most critics.



DAO is an average game of its class as far as i'm concerned. I have played 80 hours + so far and will continue to do so as to me its damn good, stop getting annoyed at reviews. You sound like zelda fans :/

[Hurbster]

Edge has been way to far up it's own bum almost since it launched. Had a quick gander of the their forums and the attitude of the people inhabiting them made me realise I was glad I stopped reading it 10 years ago or so.

[Seifz]

Well, I know of a certain company called EDGE that likes to sue a lot of people and complain a lot, but they don't publish any magazines.

As far as I can tell, Edge (the magazine) is based in the UK and has a circulation of ~28,000. That's really pretty small.

EDIT:  I'm reading now that they used to publish a lot of their content in Next Generation in the US, a magazine that I subscribed to for about a year or so before deciding that it was quite terrible.  It looks like every foreign edition of Edge doesn't catch on well with the population and shuts down rather promptly.

So, ~28k readers in the UK and fail elsewhere.  I don't understand how this puts them anywhere near Fumitsu.  They're leagues below.

Modifié par Seifz, 21 novembre 2009 - 02:08 .

[Hurrrr]

You sound like idiots slating something you have never read.

[Skellimancer]

Hurrrr wrote...

EDGE is THE industry standard magazine. They dont advertise games as much as jobs for the companies that MAKE the games.

Look, they aren't a normal mag. They don't do the 7-9 rating system as is usual of AAA games. They dont care for upstream or downstream gamers, and they certainly don't get caught up in fanboyism hype to the extent of most critics.

DAO is an average game of its class as far as i'm concerned. I have played 80 hours + so far and will continue to do so as to me its damn good, stop getting annoyed at reviews. You sound like zelda fans :/

Its a crap magazine. the best gamer magazines are long dead.

R.I.P, Mean Machines.

[Raxtoren]

Hurrrr wrote...

You sound like idiots slating something you have never read.

I played the game, and I seen the avg score which is like 86% on the console, and I know what a 5/10 game is and should be -DAO isn't one.
You think people will change their opinion just by reading the magazine?
What is there to explain? we have already played the game, you think anyone will change opinion now just because someone write some lame reasons?
I havnt meet anyone who thinks DAO is a 5/10 except my friend "funner" ( on xbl ) who says every RPG made sucks big time.

[Twitchmonkey]

Hurrrr wrote...

EDGE is THE industry standard magazine. They dont advertise games as much as jobs for the companies that MAKE the games.

Look, they aren't a normal mag. They don't do the 7-9 rating system as is usual of AAA games. They dont care for upstream or downstream gamers, and they certainly don't get caught up in fanboyism hype to the extent of most critics.

DAO is an average game of its class as far as i'm concerned. I have played 80 hours + so far and will continue to do so as to me its damn good, stop getting annoyed at reviews. You sound like zelda fans :/

They gave Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, an inferior sequel to game that was 5 years old at the time, a higher score than one of the best RPGs of the decade (KotOR received a 7 versus Assault's 8) there is a problem.

[Shannara13]

Hurrrr wrote...

EDGE is THE industry standard magazine. They dont advertise games as much as jobs for the companies that MAKE the games.

Look, they aren't a normal mag. They don't do the 7-9 rating system as is usual of AAA games. They dont care for upstream or downstream gamers, and they certainly don't get caught up in fanboyism hype to the extent of most critics.

DAO is an average game of its class as far as i'm concerned. I have played 80 hours + so far and will continue to do so as to me its damn good, stop getting annoyed at reviews. You sound like zelda fans :/

And yet they gave Oblivion an 8/10.

[Hurrrr]

The scores are compared to the genres they are contained within.



Think of it as 5/10 = Ok, not likely to draw new fans to the RPG/FPS/RTS/WHATEVER



10/10 = Fans of genre will be in nirvana, AND will draw new fans to the genre?



Dont pay so much attention to the scoring. Most magazines hate having to rate a game and will actively say that (ala. PC gamer UK forums). Go by the content of the review.



Chill the fanboyism plaz :/

[Hardin4188]

I've never heard of Edge before. The only console magazine that I read is Game Informer.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Hurrrr wrote...

EDGE is THE industry standard magazine. They dont advertise games as much as jobs for the companies that MAKE the games.

Look, they aren't a normal mag. They don't do the 7-9 rating system as is usual of AAA games. They dont care for upstream or downstream gamers, and they certainly don't get caught up in fanboyism hype to the extent of most critics.

DAO is an average game of its class as far as i'm concerned. I have played 80 hours + so far and will continue to do so as to me its damn good, stop getting annoyed at reviews. You sound like zelda fans :/

You must work for Edge, judging by all your post thusfar.

Mind you, perhaps it's just because you said you agree with all their reviews and and you keep saying they're "The industry standard".  Oh, and you didn't like the Witcher which is just blasphemy.

[Twitchmonkey]

Hurrrr wrote...

The scores are compared to the genres they are contained within.

Think of it as 5/10 = Ok, not likely to draw new fans to the RPG/FPS/RTS/WHATEVER

10/10 = Fans of genre will be in nirvana, AND will draw new fans to the genre?

Dont pay so much attention to the scoring. Most magazines hate having to rate a game and will actively say that (ala. PC gamer UK forums). Go by the content of the review.

Chill the fanboyism plaz :/

Do you work for Edge? I'm not sure how else you could be this stubborn. What you're seeing is not fanboyism, it's simple consensus and sensible opinion. Some games are just great, and should be received as such, and some games are very good, and should be recognized as such. Dragon Age is not an average RPG, you can look at countless other reviews from professional reviewers that agree with this, it is at least quite good. That is the consensus.

And if they did not want to provide a numerical score, they shouldn't have done so, there are other sources that do not. Metacritic can and does read the reviews to get a general feel to be able to turn a written review into a numerical one for aggregation.

[Hurrrr]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Hurrrr wrote...

The scores are compared to the genres they are contained within.

Think of it as 5/10 = Ok, not likely to draw new fans to the RPG/FPS/RTS/WHATEVER

10/10 = Fans of genre will be in nirvana, AND will draw new fans to the genre?

Dont pay so much attention to the scoring. Most magazines hate having to rate a game and will actively say that (ala. PC gamer UK forums). Go by the content of the review.

Chill the fanboyism plaz :/

Do you work for Edge? I'm not sure how else you could be this stubborn. What you're seeing is not fanboyism, it's simple consensus and sensible opinion. Some games are just great, and should be received as such, and some games are very good, and should be recognized as such. Dragon Age is not an average RPG, you can look at countless other reviews from professional reviewers that agree with this, it is at least quite good. That is the consensus.

And if they did not want to provide a numerical score, they shouldn't have done so, there are other sources that do not. Metacritic can and does read the reviews to get a general feel to be able to turn a written review into a numerical one for aggregation.

No I dont work for edge. Im a 22 year old

And yes I'm stubborn because you have all reached a consensus without reading the review. 

[Seifz]

Hurrrr wrote...

The scores are compared to the genres they are contained within.

Think of it as 5/10 = Ok, not likely to draw new fans to the RPG/FPS/RTS/WHATEVER

10/10 = Fans of genre will be in nirvana, AND will draw new fans to the genre?

Dont pay so much attention to the scoring. Most magazines hate having to rate a game and will actively say that (ala. PC gamer UK forums). Go by the content of the review.

Chill the fanboyism plaz :/

I'd like to judge by the content of the review instead of the score, but the review doesn't seem to be free on their website.  Does anyone have a good link?

EDIT:  And by the way, looking at the score "within" the genre isn't working out much better.  Do you really think that DA:O is worse than Mass Effect, Jade Empire, KotOR, BG2, Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Diable, and Diablo II?  Because Edge Magazine seems to think so!  That's silly.

Modifié par Seifz, 21 novembre 2009 - 02:37 .

[HighlandBerserkr]

I Hated Oblivion:P

[MisterEcted]

You're right, they overrated.

[Blue_dodo]

perhaps it's just someones opinion ?

[Twitchmonkey]

Hurrrr wrote...
No I dont work for edge. Im a 22 year old

And yes I'm stubborn because you have all reached a consensus without reading the review. 

Edge has a policy against hiring 22-year olds? That's ageism.

Your second point may be somewhat fair, but without the content of the review readily available, there isn't much option, and I think it's rather fair to pass some judgment based on their numerical score, which is supposed to serve as something of a summary of the opinion of the review, along with their history of poor numerical scores. Again I feel no need to respect at all a reviewer that would give KotOR and ME a worse score than Assault on Dark Athena.

[AshedMan]

What is Edge? Obviously it has no clue about RPGs.

[Twitchmonkey]

AshedMan wrote...

What is Edge? Obviously it has no clue about RPGs.

[anonygoose]

"The Dragon Age review reads like the lead developer spit in the reviewer's coffee. They hate the dialogue and story, comparing it to Dan Brown. They say the battle gameplay is broken and complain about the graphics. There are a couple of comments that the PC version is better but clearly it's their opinion of the acting and story that dragged it down for both versions.



I think they must be playing a different version to mine. "



'bout halfway down http://boards.ign.co...67/187022692/p2 that page. Wow, Dan Brown, huh. Now if they'd said Mel Odom I might have been able to understand the score for that alone.

[amrose2]

This thread is full of fail



"The Edge is THE magazine of the industry" followed by 20+ posts saying "I've never heard of the edge"



Then some guy goes on to say "chill the fanboyism" while being a fanboy himself mindlessly defending this magazine nobody has heard of.



Honestly I'm surprised people even bother with magazines anymore.. They are all in somebody's pocket or super biased towards their own preferences..